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Behringer Swing Keys.

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  • I've had a Behringer synth, an audio interface and a couple of mixers. I always just thought that it is what it is, whenever someone pointed out their business practice of copying stuff.

    This feels like a step too far. Yes, it's a licensed design that they have bought and paid for. I guess what they haven't done is trod the path that lead to the success of that design. They have left that to Arturia, in this case. That's what this particular copy has done for me, shone a light on the risks they leave to others.

    I guess it's like sending someone off through a minefield and only ever following them when they arrive with all their limbs intact. It's one way to get to the other side but it doesn't feel right, to me, now. So I won't bother with them again.

  • @SealTeamSick said:
    Has it occurred to ya all that Behringer has anticipated all this prattle before they released this. Why. Are. You. Even. Bothering. To. Talk. About. This.

    Why are you? Other than the opportunity to be desultory about other people’s conversations, that is...

  • @ashh said:

    I guess it's like sending someone off through a minefield and only ever following them when they arrive with all their limbs intact. It's one way to get to the other side but it doesn't feel right, to me, now.

    Seems like an extreme metaphor to me. Very bloody etc.
    How about..
    its like teasing a baby with a lower priced identical candy bar and the baby starts crying and throws a tantum, even though it still has its candy bar, it doesnt even want the new candy bar but thinks people should only be allowed candy bars under legal terms and conditions that arent applicable in these circumstances, to give a competative advantage to his favourite candy maker who was famously the first person to offer a bag with 3 types of candy in it. The bags design was so banal it won the Golden Banal award 2020, and everyone also laughed at the new guys bag for being exactly as banal as the first one and he's hoping to clinch 2021's award.

  • @A_Fox said:

    @ashh said:

    I guess it's like sending someone off through a minefield and only ever following them when they arrive with all their limbs intact. It's one way to get to the other side but it doesn't feel right, to me, now.

    Seems like an extreme metaphor to me. Very bloody etc.
    How about..
    its like teasing a baby with a lower priced identical candy bar and the baby starts crying and throws a tantum, even though it still has its candy bar, it doesnt even want the new candy bar but thinks people should only be allowed candy bars under legal terms and conditions that arent applicable in these circumstances, to give a competative advantage to his favourite candy maker who was famously the first person to offer a bag with 3 types of candy in it. The bags design was so banal it won the Golden Banal award 2020, and everyone also laughed at the new guys bag for being exactly as banal as the first one and he's hoping to clinch 2021's award.

    You made some valid points in a previous post, but now you’ve gone and ruined it by being needlessly insulting about those who disapprove of Behringer’s approach...

  • @ashh said:
    Yes, it's a licensed design that they have bought and paid for.

    This is not true, according to the designer

  • edited November 2020

    @TheOriginalPaulB said:

    @A_Fox said:

    You made some valid points in a previous post, but now you’ve gone and ruined it by being needlessly insulting about those who disapprove of Behringer’s approach...

    I think likening copying a keyboard to sending people through a minefield and taking advantage of those who havent lost any limbs is an attempt at manipulating emotions and perceptions of a company or person, rather than as a use to explain their meaning of something.

    You're right it doesnt help as its a tad "polarising". But i havent altered the validity of my points.
    I think some peoples reasoning is valid, and i think some are "over egging the pudding".
    I do feel like ive previously seen a co-ordinated slurring of Behringer, its easy for people to check how a few of our (music community) publications covered the Worker with Leukemia/Useless Dogs libel, missrepresenting it.

    Ashh set up the ball and i "smashed it into the back of the net", it is an amusing bit of banter really, i did even "rip the piss" out of Behringer too in that metaphor.

    Interestingly.. do you question the insults or insulting metaphors of people who dont agree with behringers approuch?

  • It does’nt bother me that Behringer have done this, I don’t care & it does’nt surprise me either. I do personally find it somewhat pathetic however. I have a Behringer model D & I’m not going to burn it. I might buy more of their stuff in the future but this is just an own goal for them. They are their own worse enemies.
    I think overall the numbers of people pissed at them heavily outweighs those whom approve. Their choice their problem not mine.

  • @A_Fox said:

    @TheOriginalPaulB said:

    @A_Fox said:

    You made some valid points in a previous post, but now you’ve gone and ruined it by being needlessly insulting about those who disapprove of Behringer’s approach...

    I think likening copying a keyboard to sending people through a minefield and taking advantage of those who havent lost any limbs is an attempt at manipulating emotions and perceptions of a company or person, rather than as a use to explain their meaning of something.

    You're right it doesnt help as its a tad "polarising". But i havent altered the validity of my points.
    I think some peoples reasoning is valid, and i think some are "over egging the pudding".
    I do feel like ive previously seen a co-ordinated slurring of Behringer, its easy for people to check how a few of our (music community) publications covered the Worker with Leukemia/Useless Dogs libel, missrepresenting it.

    Ashh set up the ball and i "smashed it into the back of the net", it is an amusing bit of banter really, i did even "rip the piss" out of Behringer too in that metaphor.

    Interestingly.. do you question the insults or insulting metaphors of people who dont agree with behringers approuch?

    I have little enthusiasm for belittling of supporters of either viewpoint. I was just pointing out that you weaken your reasoned position by resorting to such tactics. Those who have tried ad hominem attacks on you hadn’t made reasoned arguments, so the same point couldn’t be made.

  • Yes, fair enough, i thought it a tad absurd and my metaphor was in that context, rediculous and offensive, Satire really.

  • @A_Fox said:

    Yes, fair enough, i thought it a tad absurd and my metaphor was in that context, rediculous and offensive, Satire really.

    It was a metaphor of a metaphor. We all negotiate minefields in our lives. Metaphorical ones, of course. Behringer seems to do this repeatedly, wilfully.

    The metaphor of having ones legs blown off is when someone attacks another without warning and leaves them feeling hurt and disorientated, angry and confused.

    I hope this clairifies my earlier post, for you.

  • @NoiseFloored said:

    @ashh said:
    Yes, it's a licensed design that they have bought and paid for.

    This is not true, according to the designer

    Thank you for clearing that up. I will give Behringer the benefit of the doubt and put it down to internet rumour.

  • @syrupcore said:

    @klownshed said:

    @cyberheater said:
    From FB

    Arturia and Behringer both have licences to produce it from its designer, an independent company called DesignBox.

    https://www.design-box.de/produkt-design/

    Oh. That makes a big difference. It shows the value of not jumping to conclusions too.

    Indeed. Though, I don't think most of the jumped-to conclusions were based entirely on this device. They've earned a certain pedigree. :)


    @NoiseFloored said:

    @ashh said:
    Yes, it's a licensed design that they have bought and paid for.

    This is not true, according to the designer

    I was fakenewsed by this thread The B swng is not at all licensed. Just plain ol' shitty.

    https://www.synthtopia.com/content/2020/11/23/arturia-responds-to-behringers-keystep-knockoff-seriously/

  • Hurry up, while it’s still up:

  • Hilarious! (By the way, his hair style costs a LOT of money in a salon)

  • People can say what they want, but it will sell like hot cakes on November 1rst. I will not buy it, but I'm sure it will be very popular at that price point.

    It will be out November 1rst in the UK. Not sure for the Canada/USA.

  • @u0421793 said:
    Hurry up, while it’s still up:

    Pretty excellent satire. Usually I can't sit through that guy's rambling, but this one is good.

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