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AU MIDI drum sequencer that can live-record patterns
I've found quite a few MIDI sequencers but I haven't found one yet where I can just tap in drum patterns with the drum pads on my midi keyboard and record them "live". The only app I've found that allows this so far is Patterning 2, but I was wondering if there's an alternative that is AU (so I don't have to switch apps) and has a conventional layout instead of Patterning's "circular" layout.
I was thinking about just using Atom, but maybe someone knows a sequencer that is specific to drums and allows live recording, and has all the features of a drum sequencer, like different parameters, probability,...?
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Drambo.
Isn't that basically another DAW? Isn't that a bit overkill to use just as a midi sequencer for a single instrument?
Anyway, I'll look into it, thanks.
Na. As a drum machine it will just look kind of empty, depending on the synth, sampler and modules in rack plus you can adjust the sounds (p-lock )
A snare on a step could sound completly different on another step.
Theres elastic drums but no probabilty.
If you wait for atom then. You will see which is fastest for probabilty but Drambo has p-locks.
P-lock is fast but if you have a big screen and a pattern that isnt vast in steps then you can just add and delete notes as they loop, whilst adding prob, which isnt exactly that slow. Its just a button. Tap the step. Press on + then choose random condition from list. Then adjust the slider.
Beathawk? Definitely overkill.
Obviously you know p-lock isnt a term for probabilty ( how I seemed to descibe it ) but probabilty can also affect p-locks. 8 sounds could actually be 8 x 256 sounds. More also.
Are there plans for Atom to get additional parameters besides velocity?
drambo looks like a fantastic app. But. Just to be safe, I'll ask again: can I record/overdub a midi drum pattern by playing it on my external drum pads? The way I can in garageband/zenbeats?
Not sure dobbs.
8 x 256 steps is also per pattern and I think theres infinate patterns.
Might be too complex if you just need to imput notes but its fast at making beats. I use sb drum though at mo and drambo samplers and drambo to sequence auv3. Well. In theory. Thats how iv set up system.
Depends what drums. Sb dosent have input via midi but your keyboard can be used for zones. A zone of keys can have various functions including rolls, pitch. Pitch and roll combined. Pattern switching. Mutes and I think be incorperated with the modulation of functions. I just use for rolls at mo. A c3 might sound like beat matching. Next key will be a bit faster. Depending on zone state/length selected. A key of a beat could repeat super fast. You can set zones per voice.
Yeah. Sure.
sorry but what's sb and mo? sb = Sugar bytes drumcomputer?
Yeah Drum computer.
Rolls at the moment.
See if anyone can recommend better. I dont use ipad much but will when my controller arrives. Weird like that. 3 controllers already and still be stubborn. Id probably deserve my ipad to not work.
Digistix can record external drum pad input, even as an AU Midi (no audio).
You can record in passes, and step edit velocity, pitch, pan, and probability after you record.
that sounds absolutely perfect, thank you!
Oh nice, it's from the nurack guy.
Well. Find out of someone with knowledge how a keyboard might input midi to drambo tracks etc.
Stepbud could do that
Thesys can record, transpose, roll, and randomize - although only one note is sequenced per step, so you'd need a Thesys instance per drum.
EG Pulse
Drumcomputer
Oops
Stepbud and Drumcomputer both can't live-record patterns. I actually want this app to record patterns I play via hardware drumpads and then control drumcomputer with it...
Digistix sounds perfect, but now I've read it can't change patterns via MIDI control? Well I might just stay with Patterning after all...
Can EG Pulse do "live-recording" or just step-recording? It can do fills, that's pretty cool.
I’ve just been crying/ranting about this!. Isn’t it a huge omission?. I mean you can change almost everything via midi, but not the pattern!. You can randomize patterns but not select them... You can even load a preset!. Without midi pattern change, you can’t use its sequencer in a daw or LK or anywhere that demands some structure.
I also raged about this!. Human against Drum Computer
Glad to see we’re on the same page. Sometimes you just wonder “why is no one else complaining about this?!”. 🙏🤘
So did you already find a solution? A midi drum sequencer that is not in any essential way flawed and can live-record/overdub beat patterns?
I'm probably gonna get EG pulse either way since I also don't have an app yet to play audio clips/loops. Combining LK and Pulse to get an AUM "launchpad" sounds really exciting.
With Pulse as s loop player, be aware that the loops don't automatically adjust their time-stretching when you change tempo. The loops can be time-stretched but you need to manually set the time-stretching from what I can tell.
Someone please correct me if I am mistaken about this.
Digistix has Song Mode to build structure, and can sync to host (or not).
If you want to use your Patterns in LK, why don’t you just record them in LK in the first place?
You can press the Little record button at top of DS sequencer, and record your hits into the internal sequencer.
It’s not an Au drum sequencer but atom will record your live playing, then trigger whatever drum you want as long as the midi notes match up to the correct pads in that drum app.
Because I hate programming drums on piano rolls. Also the time LK didn’t have probability per note, they’ve added it recently I believe. Plus, being self-contained is easier to move the project from AUM to a daw if you want to.
Regarding song mode... I can’t really see the point unless the only changes occur in the rhythm. If,say, there’s a verse and a chorus, other elements such as bass, synths and so on are gonna change too. It only makes sense to “centralize” those changes (patterns) otherwise you’d have yo do it twice. Plus, you can’t improvise or decide on the structure on the go.
Sounds like a bunch of personal preferences, not a failure of the app.
Nothing you list here indicates that it won’t work with a DAW, just that you prefer something else.