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AUM MidiMixer by 4Pockets for iPad, released

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  • @Zerozerozero said:
    I won’t preach (maybe a bit), but full screen access to any app is one press away with the Xequence, AB, AUM thing. I’ll shut up now. I’m the very small minority who doesn’t click with AUM (weird, I know) so....

    I’ve definitely tried but it just doesn’t work in a live situation for me

  • @Fingolfinzzz said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @Zerozerozero said:

    @mjcouche said:
    Or you can just use Xequence for both??

    Yes, this. I don’t think I understand how most people are using AUM. Just draw in all automation in Xequence.

    Some people don’t want to switch out of AUM to another app or go through the setup hassles.

    Exactly, it kills my flow having to switch windows like that

    Same. I hate to say it because Xequence is such an excellent app but I could not get on with the switching apps flow.

  • edited December 2020

    @CracklePot said:
    It seems like you could use this app to control anything else using Midi CC.

    >

    Can you reassign the CCs being sent by midimixer? Going back to watch the vid again.

  • @ecamburn said:

    @CracklePot said:
    It seems like you could use this app to control anything else using Midi CC.

    >

    Can you reassign the CCs being sent by midimixer? Going back to watch the vid again.

    Not sure, but in most host apps, you could just set a parameter to respond to whatever CC# Midi Mixer is sending.

    Even if you couldn’t set a parameter to respond to the CC# Midi Mixer might be forcing you to use, you could insert a Midi utility in between to remap the CC#s so they connect.
    (I would just hope the host can keep everything in the AU parameter resolution, so it stays smooth)

  • edited December 2020

    I asked Paul about the idea of his gadget adding and deleting corresponding channels on the fly in a 1 to 1 relationship with AUM channels, and he said this:

    “It is not possible to know how many channels AUM has configured which is why I provide the templates, to do all the configuration for you. An AUv3 plugin cannot have control over a host DAW and cannot access/see anything in AUM directly.”

    I do wonder if each dev was willing this could be something Jonatan and Paul could thrash out together?I understand in a punter way that AU hosts and plug ins are different beasts and ne’er the Twain shall meet, but I wonder if there were flags or hooks the one could use to somehow signal the other what it’s state was? No idea if that is even possible, of course...

    So at present, a dynamic version of Paul’s mixer seems very unlikely, so I counter suggested that perhaps instead he could simply offer a wider choice of template set ups - 1, 2, 4, 12 and 16 channels in addition to the current 8 and 12 would cover most practical use-cases, I’d’ve thought...

  • From what I have seen it doesn’t look like you could open an old session of AUM and patch this on to it? Something to create new sessions with. So, I assume you would save the AUM session details inside this?

  • @arktek said:
    From what I have seen it doesn’t look like you could open an old session of AUM and patch this on to it? Something to create new sessions with. So, I assume you would save the AUM session details inside this?

    I think you could, but you’d have to map each control for each track manually, which is a severe pain in the ass.

  • @celtic_elk said:

    @arktek said:
    From what I have seen it doesn’t look like you could open an old session of AUM and patch this on to it? Something to create new sessions with. So, I assume you would save the AUM session details inside this?

    I think you could, but you’d have to map each control for each track manually, which is a severe pain in the ass.

    This ☝️. You'll definitely ideally want to start with the templates.

  • Definitely filling a gap in the AUM modular DAW setup.
    Does it automate only volumes or can you additional cc's? Looked like maybe there was an option for one assignable cc.

  • Now out in the UK.

  • AUM MidiMixer Auv3 Plugin by 4Pockets.com

    https://apps.apple.com/app/id1542209150

    Description:

    MidiMixer is an AUv3 plugin specifically designed for AUM which allows you to control your mix and record automation synced to AUM's timeline. You can control up to 12 AUM channels at once and create up to 8 snapshots of the mixing desk. You can smoothly fade from one snapshot into another at the touch of a button and even record these transitions as part of the automation for your song.

    Automation recording is a big part of MidiMixer, and as such can record real-time movement of controls or add them directly to the visual editor. Editor tools allow you to draw automation for each control in real time as your song plays.

    MidiMixer ships with a couple of default AUM session templates that will help you quickly configure AUM and MidiMixer ready to create your new song.

    MidiMixer works by sending control messages to AUM. It relies on the default settings for AUM which makes setup very quick and easy. By default, you have control over 12 AUM tracks and a single group track for overall volume. You can control AUM's fader, pan, mute and solo settings for each of the 12 channels. We also provide a user option which allows you to send custom data to control other AUM settings (or a piece of MIDI equipment of your choice).

    Features:

    • 8 mixer snapshots with smooth fade over 0-5s.
    • Record real-time control changes.
    • Graphical editor with editing tools.
    • Clipboard functionality for copying sections of automation.
    • 2 default AUM templates provided.
    • Fader lock allowing control of all faders at once.
    • Control up to 12 AUM channels.
    • Load and Save mixes.
    • Full song state saving.

    Checkout the 'Paul the Musicman' YouTube channel for a preview of this app in action.

    Please Note: Although this plugin can technically be loaded into any DAW, it was designed purely for use in AUM and as such its use outside of AUM is extremely limited. Also not recommended for use on iPhones with less than 6.5" display.


    Details:
    Universal: Yes
    Minimum OS version: 11.0
    Rated: 0 based on 0 votes

  • Universal, YESSSS

  • Quick first look!

  • Bought it...

  • I told you it’s going to be soon ;)
    Before weekend - cool beans.

    Is anyone in touch with the 4pockets devs? Maybe we can get a smoother fade than 5 seconds? Thinking about 10 or maybe way more than that?

    What an assmove to ask for request when the app just hit the AppStore. Haha - but i could use a much more smoother fade. Used for that always a Brambos LFO before...

  • Longer throw on the faders would be cool too.

  • Do you need to start a new AUM project with the corresponding files? Or is it automatically connected?
    If I recall correctly my Launchpad is Automatically connected as the CCs are always #7 and the channel is just ascending from 1to8.

    Basically: will it work, if I slap it on older projects?

  • @david_2017 said:
    Do you need to start a new AUM project with the corresponding files? Or is it automatically connected?
    If I recall correctly my Launchpad is Automatically connected as the CCs are always #7 and the channel is just ascending from 1to8.

    Basically: will it work, if I slap it on older projects?

    No David, you will have to set it up by going in to the parameters in each channel 😅. That's why it would really be ideal if Jonatan and Paul could somehow work together on making things as seemless as possible, not sure how feasible it is though from either a technical or a time point of view

  • @Gavinski thanks man. I just checked... its the way it automatically connects.

    CH1 CC7; CH2 CC7; CH3 CC7 etc.

    It becomes tricky when you use midi channels. Because they are not responding to this. But if 4pockets could add a default template this should work Iike my launchpad in software form.

  • It's a nice idea, but what would fit my mindset with AUM better would be just the automation editor as a plug-in which you can load into any channel easily. I'd very rarely want to automate more than the odd channel in AUM; If I did I'd be at a stage in the song I'd be better off served by a DAW with a timeline.

    I fear this app would be more pain than gain for me and break what I like about using AUM.

  • @dobbs said:
    Triggering different midimixer snapshots via LK would be nice.

    I'm using LK to trigger LK 'snapshots'. In one LK channel have clips with different volume fades. Perhaps more setup because you have to assign the controls yourself, but a lot more flexible (more channels, automate everything). I see the use of midi mixer, but I can't see anything it does that LK can't do or am I missing something?

    Example of LK clips fading volume faders from 1 scène to the next.
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/0xsogef5d7t6g18/LK volume automation launch.aumproj?dl=0

  • This is a generic controller. It offers easier way to handle/edit automation, but it will always rely on proper settings, fixed structures etc.
    Midi channels, channel rearranging - these will all work against you when using this app, but it will work if you arrange your whole song around it - doable, but not fun and full of restrictions.

  • Yeah it's one of those ones where only time will tell whether it clicks with you or not

  • I'm on the fence, I'd be more tempted if it had configurable CCs in the plugin so that at least you could easily use it apeMatrix too and save the template in the plugin itself, not the host. Longer faders + more options for snapshot length.

  • @Carnbot said:
    I'm on the fence, I'd be more tempted if it had configurable CCs in the plugin so that at least you could easily use it apeMatrix too and save the template in the plugin itself, not the host. Longer faders + more options for snapshot length.

    +1
    Also few more lines for additional plugin parameters...
    But I guess he will release that separately next week after he tweaked the UI. :)

  • edited December 2020

    Yeah, even though this looks convenient...just wondering if I'm better off using LK for recording automation with a hardware mixer as you can go deeper, although that doesn't have the easy snapshot feature.

    In fact, it does make more sense for my workflow to use LK, it already has longer faders in the controller and a better ui. You can save templates to control the AUM faders and record the automation into clips and scenes for even finer control.

  • edited December 2020

    After 20 mins playing with the automation lanes etc I'm liking what it provides. I am finding the draw mode a bit fiddly on a ipad 9.7 and hard to get accurate curves movements etc wish the app provided more screen estate for drawing the movements in and find u can draw in some areas and not others which is linked to the ruler and highlighted area which seems a bit hit or miss to select/deselect with my index finger so touch control could be better. Think I need a larger screen to get the most out of this. Early days and I'm travelling so train vibration is always a issue!

  • I also found the drawing fiddly but I felt it was more a case of me having to get used to it. It wasn't always as intuitive as I expected, I think u have to get used to the way it works, as u say, early days

  • @Gavinski said:
    Quick first look!

    i think i had first watch hah

  • it has a premapped template but you have to open it pre starting your project as opposed to adding it in later it seems, to use that template

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