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Drambo is an AU host now / the new Drambo mega thread

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  • xorxor
    edited April 2021

    I tried p-locking a 1-n switch and I discovered...

    • the p-lock is ignored if you tap on the currently selected value
    • not seeing the selected value on playback seems worse for a switch than a knob
  • @xor said:
    Question for the Drambo experts... you can run a gate signal for the midi-to-cv module through the singular midi cc generator and get 127 and 0 out of it. I can’t get anything when I use the multi-cc-generator though. Expected behavior?

    The multi-cc sends the knob values as CC. You need to modulate the knob with the gate, and turn the mod level to max, then it will work. But there seems to be no way to set the CC#. Work in progress, maybe.

  • Quick question and I’m sure this have been answered before. How do I get a channel’s audio in AUM into drambo’s flexi sampler? Drambo is also opened in AUM as AU.

  • edited April 2021

    @Hursoom said:
    Quick question and I’m sure this have been answered before. How do I get a channel’s audio in AUM into drambo’s flexi sampler? Drambo is also opened in AUM as AU.

    I can answer that ( for I am the least sophisticated AI )

    You can use Drambo as an effect. The FX or MFX version. I think the Mfx version will also appear on the right side of AUM matrix. I guess so theres more midi options avaliable in aum. If you use Drambo multi outs, then I guess you need a dedicated au effects sampler/samplers like described. You then sample, edit, trim, save. Then open in the main or multiout version/s.

    So just add a Drambo like you are adding a reverb app.

  • @sigma79 said:

    @Hursoom said:
    Quick question and I’m sure this have been answered before. How do I get a channel’s audio in AUM into drambo’s flexi sampler? Drambo is also opened in AUM as AU.

    I can answer that ( for I am the least sophisticated AI )

    You can use Drambo as an effect. The FX or MFX version. I think the Mfx version will also appear on the right side of AUM matrix. I guess so theres more midi options avaliable in aum. If you use Drambo multi outs, then I guess you need a dedicated au effects sampler/samplers like described. You then sample, edit, trim, save. Then open in the main or multiout version/s.

    So just add a Drambo like you are adding a reverb app.

    Thanks! I read your answer multiple times and still didn’t understand it. Sorry. Can’t I just record the audio in AUM and load and edit the sample in flexi? I don’t have my Ipad next to me right now and imagined I can record direct audio into the flexi sampler. I guess that’s not possible right? It can only load samples?

  • @Hursoom said:

    @sigma79 said:

    @Hursoom said:
    Quick question and I’m sure this have been answered before. How do I get a channel’s audio in AUM into drambo’s flexi sampler? Drambo is also opened in AUM as AU.

    I can answer that ( for I am the least sophisticated AI )

    You can use Drambo as an effect. The FX or MFX version. I think the Mfx version will also appear on the right side of AUM matrix. I guess so theres more midi options avaliable in aum. If you use Drambo multi outs, then I guess you need a dedicated au effects sampler/samplers like described. You then sample, edit, trim, save. Then open in the main or multiout version/s.

    So just add a Drambo like you are adding a reverb app.

    Thanks! I read your answer multiple times and still didn’t understand it. Sorry. Can’t I just record the audio in AUM and load and edit the sample in flexi? I don’t have my Ipad next to me right now and imagined I can record direct audio into the flexi sampler. I guess that’s not possible right? It can only load samples?

    It’s not worth me explaining as it might be my writing style. Just add a DRAMBO as an effects like how you add a reverb in AUM effects slot, under the main au, which you are quoting. Any synth or input will then be above DRAMBO. Exactly how you would think it to be.

  • So imagine you got DRAMBO as an au. Instead load any synth or even an AUM file player or any input source. Then add the DRAMBO like you would a reverb or delay or any effect in the left circle/circles of the AUM channel strip.

  • Not capitalising to speak in volumes to you. Just haven’t switched off auto correct.

  • @sigma79 No problem! didn’t even notice it 😊.

  • @Hursoom said:
    Quick question and I’m sure this have been answered before. How do I get a channel’s audio in AUM into drambo’s flexi sampler? Drambo is also opened in AUM as AU.

    You just need to load Drambo as an FX, then the audio is available to Flexi. When you load Drambo as an FX it comes up with a default template that has only the main channel. This isn't generally what you want, so I usually load another template. But if not you can always add channels.

    Tap the Rec button at the top right of the Flexi module. Set the Source to Ext. in 1. Enable Monitor to hear what's playing.

  • @wim and @sigma79 , got it now. Thank you.

  • @Hursoom said:
    @wim and @sigma79 , got it now. Thank you.

    No worries.

    Cheers wim also.

  • @uncledave said:

    @xor said:
    Question for the Drambo experts... you can run a gate signal for the midi-to-cv module through the singular midi cc generator and get 127 and 0 out of it. I can’t get anything when I use the multi-cc-generator though. Expected behavior?

    The multi-cc sends the knob values as CC. You need to modulate the knob with the gate, and turn the mod level to max, then it will work. But there seems to be no way to set the CC#. Work in progress, maybe.

    Thanks. Full on for the modulator and full off of the value was the only combi I hadn’t tried. Just double-tap the knob to assign its name and cc. It is odd that the multi generator is so different from the single one. Not sure why one needs or wants modulation more than the other.

  • @slicetwo said:
    Trying to play more around with using Drambo similar to how I use my Octatrack for some live set ideas and I have a few questions about it. I think some of them may have been answered previously, but I can't remember, nor can I find where I think they may have been answered.

    1. Is there a way to have different patterns rock different parts and tempos?

    Different notes and parameters using p-locking and scenes? yes, different instrument racks? No.
    Different tempos?
    You can do this using dRambo as an auv3 within dRambo.

    1. I'd like to be able to use the trigger pads to mute but still allow the FX to fade out. I assume this isn't possible without using a controller and putting an amp module before the FX chain, but maybe there's a way to assign the triggers of which I am unaware.

    This is the most straight forward way.
    You can use the gate output from a note or CC message using
    an external midi controller/keyboard and the onscreen pads.

    1. Can tracks be triggered to loop sort of like in Ableton? Start/stop on X beat so that it, for example, would always start on beat 1, even if triggered on beat 13.

    We can now do this with any module that uses time input
    using rs2000’s Loop Launcher v1 with modifications.

    1. What are people enjoying for controllers with Drambo? I was thinking of actually using my Octatrack to control and sequence it so that I'm only using 2 devices (maybe 3 if I throw the Digitakt in there). I'm using a custom template on my Drambo which as 13 audio tracks, 1 reverb send, master, and the Main channel, so the OT would be down by 5 tracks, but I could always use the Digitakt MIDI tracks for those.

    Nanokontrol mki
    Launch Control XL mki
    Launchpad X

  • @xor said:
    Question for the Drambo experts... you can run a gate signal for the midi-to-cv module through the singular midi cc generator and get 127 and 0 out of it. I can’t get anything when I use the multi-cc-generator though. Expected behavior?

    How have you got it connected?

    I’ve just tested it here and it works as expected.
    Here’s a screenshot of what I think you’re describing.

  • @Gravitas said:

    @xor said:
    Question for the Drambo experts... you can run a gate signal for the midi-to-cv module through the singular midi cc generator and get 127 and 0 out of it. I can’t get anything when I use the multi-cc-generator though. Expected behavior?

    How have you got it connected?

    I’ve just tested it here and it works as expected.
    Here’s a screenshot of what I think you’re describing.

    Thanks yeah, @uncledave fixed me up. I had the value knob full on rather than full off and that’s the only one I didn’t try fiddling with for some reason. As I mentioned earlier it’s quite odd that the single and multi modules are so different from each other. Why does one need/want modulation on multi but not on single?

  • Echo made a euclidean patch. Which acts as a generator because theres multiple euclideans and theres a scale knob etc. Will be my euclidean melody patch to a controller ( thanks ) Dont think you need more euclidean of the same calibre ( complex melodies ) Not sure if it can or if its useful unless you improvise live. Can there be a way to create a zone for each euclidean. So on a keyboard. A zone of keyboard can only apply notes specified by the euclidean or module?

  • @Gravitas Thanks for the info! Def. looking into the Looplauncher. I wish my gen 1 Launchpad was class compliant!

  • I have another question for the Drambo gurus. I am looking to use @rs2000 LoopLauncher as an extension of my Octatrack. I want the OT to send transport, BPM, and MIDI. I have everything hooked up properly hardware-wise, and I know it works as I tested with AB3 and start/stop and BPM all synced. In Drambo, under MIDI input settings, I have my MIDI interface chosen for Track/Control/Clock, but it is not receiving any info from the OT transport. It does, however, receive MIDI messages just fine (both notes and CC). Any ideas?

  • wimwim
    edited April 2021

    @slicetwo said:
    I have another question for the Drambo gurus. I am looking to use @rs2000 LoopLauncher as an extension of my Octatrack. I want the OT to send transport, BPM, and MIDI. I have everything hooked up properly hardware-wise, and I know it works as I tested with AB3 and start/stop and BPM all synced. In Drambo, under MIDI input settings, I have my MIDI interface chosen for Track/Control/Clock, but it is not receiving any info from the OT transport. It does, however, receive MIDI messages just fine (both notes and CC). Any ideas?

    Have you checked that a) clock is enabled enabled for the midi source, b) Ableton Link is disabled, and c) Sync is set to MIDI Clock? None of those were set by default when tested from AUM clock send on my end. The first is in app settings > Midi input, the last two are under the metronome settings.

  • @wim said:

    Have you checked that a) clock is enabled enabled for the midi source, b) Ableton Link is disabled, and c) Sync is set to MIDI Clock? None of those were set by default when tested from AUM clock send on my end. The first is in app settings > Midi input, the last two are under the metronome settings.

    AHA! Sync was NOT set to MIDI clock. It now is and it's working gloriously. Much thanks! Now I can take Drambo and the Octatrack and create some sort of insane DrambOctatrack (with the Digitakt on drums). MWAAAHAHAAAAAHHAHAHAHAHA!

  • @slicetwo

    “MWAAAHAHAAAAAHHAHAHAHAHA”

    Yup.
    Agreed.

  • @slicetwo said:

    @wim said:

    Have you checked that a) clock is enabled enabled for the midi source, b) Ableton Link is disabled, and c) Sync is set to MIDI Clock? None of those were set by default when tested from AUM clock send on my end. The first is in app settings > Midi input, the last two are under the metronome settings.

    AHA! Sync was NOT set to MIDI clock. It now is and it's working gloriously. Much thanks! Now I can take Drambo and the Octatrack and create some sort of insane DrambOctatrack (with the Digitakt on drums). MWAAAHAHAAAAAHHAHAHAHAHA!

    remember that with great power comes great...

  • @vasilymilovidov said:

    @slicetwo said:

    @wim said:

    Have you checked that a) clock is enabled enabled for the midi source, b) Ableton Link is disabled, and c) Sync is set to MIDI Clock? None of those were set by default when tested from AUM clock send on my end. The first is in app settings > Midi input, the last two are under the metronome settings.

    AHA! Sync was NOT set to MIDI clock. It now is and it's working gloriously. Much thanks! Now I can take Drambo and the Octatrack and create some sort of insane DrambOctatrack (with the Digitakt on drums). MWAAAHAHAAAAAHHAHAHAHAHA!

    remember that with great power comes great...

    inability to find multiple settings in multiple places to do 1 thing...

  • @giku_beepstreet just want to say thanks!

    Whatever you and @blueveek are doing... please keep doing it! This is a match made in heaven!

  • edited April 2021

    @Intrepolicious said:
    @giku_beepstreet just want to say thanks!

    Whatever you and @blueveek are doing... please keep doing it! This is a match made in heaven!

    Now how about extending step components accessibility to Atom2 😏

  • edited April 2021

    Can Drambo sequencer work like loopbud? I believe but havent tested it might be essential for standard sequencer to work this way, if you use Euclidean sequencers live.

    Think my requests might be a loopbud style overdub and also zones for the euclidean sequencers. So a keyboard zone can only trigger a euclidean zone, where as another keyboard zone can only trigger another euclidean zone.

    I figure even if you have a complex Euclidean medlody. It would still be good to send the notes at any point in a song, rather than decide before or by screen what the notes will be ( if thats how it works ) Plus with euclidean. Some tracks might not be euclidean but euclidean can always transform. So a standard sequencer without an overdub recording like loopbud might also be a hinderence for live stuff.

  • Think I can fix Euclidean with midi and theres midi effects also.

  • I've had my iPad for a year or so, but still don't really understand the file management system

    Drambo is currently taking up around 80 GB of space.

    I use Drambo heavily and tend to bounce sound design to audio, which means there's lots of 1-2 minute long samples in the projects. I also regularly save new versions of each project, so I have a back-up if things fall apart.

    What's the best way for me to clear up space in Drambo?

    I can't even find where the individual projects are stored. Is it a case of going to the Open Project dialogue and swiping to delete each individual project? Seems a lot of effort and may not actually free up so much space.

    Any ideas welcome :)

  • edited April 2021

    @drewinnit said:

    In setting choose ‘WebDAV’ and use the free Documents app to connect to Drambo. All your Drambo files are there.
    Also, although I dragged all my samples into Drambo, and the iPad storage for Drambo shows me it’s 8gb, it never affected my total storage, as I copied from the Files app. As for recordings in projects, it will point to the audio files, and not copy them, if I’m correct.
    Edit: as I see now, when you record with flexi sampler, and leave it there, save the project, the sample is saved inside the project. However if you save the sample from inside flexi to your files, and then reload that file into flexi, it won’t add to the size of the project.

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