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iOS DAWs with sections?
Which iOS DAWs allow for section-type organization?
GarageBand does.
Zenbeats?
BeatMaker 3? (I have pretty much only used it as a sampler and MIDI patterns but not used it as DAW per se).
I have a new project (mostly recording audio tracks and not MIDI) where I want to work on the sections independently but still have them in the same project.
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A substitute I find very handy in most DAWs is simply to create a dummy track at the top, then add empty clips the length of the sections, with appropriate names. You can then just select the clip to get your "section". Some apps like Xequence 2 and NS2 have handy ways to set the loop section, and zoom etc., to the selected clip.
Xequence and NS2 as non-audio recording apps unfortunately aren't relevant in this situation.
While there may be workarounds in Auria or Cubasis, I am wondering which apps (audio recording a must) do this with the least amount of working around.
I think Beatmaker 3 scenes is what you want
Never used them, so I can't help you there. But i'll try to experiment a bit
Blocs Wave could be used in that manner, only 8 tracks a time, though...
The if you export the project, you have stems for each track, for all sections
Sorry @espiegel123. I chose bad examples as they don't handle audio, but the method will work in just about any DAW. Good luck in your search though.
Unfortunately, I find that in both Auria and Cubasis navigating between sections is a buzz kill. While I may ultimately end up using something like that, I am curious if anything supports it more directly. GB is surprisingly good in this regard (and its take recording is pretty nifty -- though it has its drawbacks. But, so far it might be the right choice for early prototyping.
I haven't used zen beats at all and since people talk about it as a clip launcher I was wondering if it might be good for this.
I'll have to check out Beatmaker a bit more in this regard too.
Humm ... Zenbeats doesn't have sections in its timeline, but you're right about clip launching. I'm not sure how long the audio clips can be, but that might be a good way to work. I think the free Zenbeats download might have enough features for you to try this out. Zenbeats audio editing is limited to setting the start and endpoints.
AudioEvolution has timeline markers and you can jump to them. It's said to have good audio editing. This might be a good option.
A clip launcher that can record up to say 32 measures of audio in a clip would be ok. (Bonus points if it has looped/take recording)
AEM has a nice and easy marker and jump to marker system.
Another one nobody might think of is Korg Gadget.
It works quite well, it only lacks time stretching on audio tracks so you can't record at lower bpm and then pull it back to the original song tempo.
By double tapping on a scene, you can immediately jump to and play the next section.
I never really thought about using BlocsWave this way. I’ve always thought about using it for loop-based music. But for quickly sketching section ideas this is pretty handy.
These are the ones I’ve used (which works for audio)
1. Koala Sampler
2. Garageband
3. Blocs Wave (allows you to send it to Launchpad)
4. Zenbeats
5. Beatmaker 3
6. Gadget 2.
Unfortunately, AEM has a feature that makes it not workable for me -- if you are rehearsing (not recording) a MIDI part to play while in loop mode with a track armed so that you can monitor your playing, it will send send note offs for all notes playing when it turns the corner on the loop. If that issue gets addressed, I'll give it another look.
I'll have to give Gadget another look for this, but one drawback is being limited to 16 bars for a section.
If you are looking for true Sections functionality, GarageBand it is (also supports multi-take recording).
@espiegel123 BM3 scenes would work in allowing loop rec> @espiegel123 said:
BM3 would probably cover this quite well using scenes. Worth investigating that aspect further if you have it on hand.
When I want defined sections I often turn to GarageBand’s liveloops mode, with each column being an easily triggered section.
Once an arrangement starts to take shape I usually record it into the arrange view and fine tune there before it departs to Logic if I think it’s worth finishing.
Having said that I use BlocsWave more than any other iPhone audio app — I fill it with my own loops and use it to jam out ideas and if anything starts to take shape, I will sometimes dump the stems into GB liveloops to take the idea further.
Garageband is probably the best choice.
BM3 in scenes mode would be the best in theory but in practice a lot of bugs still make it a no-go.
Zenbeats clip mode I believe fits what you’re after.
I don’t think there’s a tine limit for clips, I make really long ones, plus you can edit them later and choose a specific section of the recording. BM3 does i5 too.
Thanks. I guess I need to learn how to use the sections in Beatmaker and more of Zenbeats functionality. GarageBand is close to being the completely right tool for this sort of thing for me, but not being able to export the midi and stems conveniently has me looking at other options just to see which apps workarounds are the path of least resistance for me in the long-run.
@BroCoast what buts in the BM3 sections make it a no-go for you?
That's clearly something @dwrae should know about!
I mentioned it to him this morning.
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Glitch in audio recording from USB interface. When zoomed in on waveform it turns your recording into a square wave for a moment (quick pop.)
In Cubasis, tab and hold a pattern to set timeselection start and end.
You can make a "Sections" track as your first track, and make section patterns there.
Doubleclick the patterns, to get to the pattern edit window, where you can name each section.
Ok... this made my life way easier
How could I miss this for years
I always create a no-instrument track for section naming (sometimes two - one with sections and other indicating chord changes). This was the final piece I needed
BeatHawk ?
Cool. Is this in Cubasis 2 or just the version 3.x?
Unfortunately, for me BeatHawk wouldn't really work for this.
Cubasis 2 does that
You could also do something similar in Auria: create an empty audio or MIDI track, create dummy events, name then, the select one and go to Edit --> Loop To Selection.
The only hitch being of course that Auria doesn't loop record, so if you need that then you're better off in GB.
There are no repetitive patterns in Cubasis - they are just MIDI events (aka Regions in GB). They are suggesting you to use the Left/Right Locators around each named event (dummy section) to loop between them by turning on the Loop in the toolbar.
You can use RouteMIDI app to export MIDI out of GB. It may not export accurately and you may have to make some minor alignment adjustments to notes. All notes get exported but sometimes, the notes are slightly off which is no big deal to edit and realign them.