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What synthesizer can you recommend?

I need a good app like my precious Minimoog Model D app.

Something that can make the sound like Shine On You Crazy Diamond, Logos by Tangerine Dream and Barclay James Harvest Victims of Circumstance. I really want that Sawtooth used if Fx this video...

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  • Klevgrand Hillman

  • TAL-UN-O-LX would be a good candidate for the type of sounds in the video...
    The arpeggiated sound is a chorused pulse-wave and sounds very much like a Juno :)

    Another candidate is OB-Xd with a bunch of effects, for pads, plucks etc.
    And Mode D app was already mentioned...

  • Magellan 2

  • edited December 2020

    The moog stuff of course model d/model 15...but the Juno stuff...hmmm not so much on iOS that gets very close

    Sunrizer does a great JP8080/8000 but not really quite Juno.
    Poison 202? Hmmmm
    The zencore synth in zenbeats?

    After a long ride with iOS I’m mostly back on hardware. It’s incredibly hard to beat tactile playing, and also I find the hardware just sounds so much better than the iOS stuff with very little work to do to get it that way, instead of the opposite.

  • Tera Synth could be your synth of choice

  • edited December 2020

    @MrSmileZ said:
    The moog stuff of course model d/model 15...but the Juno stuff...hmmm not so much on iOS that gets very close

    Sunrizer does a great JP8080/8000 but not really quite Juno.
    Poison 202? Hmmmm
    The zencore synth in zenbeats?

    After a long ride with iOS I’m mostly back on hardware. It’s incredibly hard to beat tactile playing, and also I find the hardware just sounds so much better than the iOS stuff with very little work to do to get it that way, instead of the opposite.

    Could not agree more. iOS has such a wide pallete of sounds thanks to very big app base but very often it is hard to not notice that the iOS synths lack something. Is it a matter of amplification since I am running everything through the audio jack? Do not know. But still, for to be able to play all these things on hardware, one need to be a Lotto winner. Not mentioning that some of the software emulated synths are not on the market anymore (or crazy expensive secondhand).
    So at the end, my conclusion is that we should be happy with what we have, and that nothing beats the real thing.

  • @MrSmileZ said:
    The moog stuff of course model d/model 15...but the Juno stuff...hmmm not so much on iOS that gets very close

    Sunrizer does a great JP8080/8000 but not really quite Juno.
    Poison 202? Hmmmm
    The zencore synth in zenbeats?

    After a long ride with iOS I’m mostly back on hardware. It’s incredibly hard to beat tactile playing, and also I find the hardware just sounds so much better than the iOS stuff with very little work to do to get it that way, instead of the opposite.

    The audience won’t able to find any difference the sound between hardware and iOS synth

  • @israelite said:

    @MrSmileZ said:
    The moog stuff of course model d/model 15...but the Juno stuff...hmmm not so much on iOS that gets very close

    Sunrizer does a great JP8080/8000 but not really quite Juno.
    Poison 202? Hmmmm
    The zencore synth in zenbeats?

    After a long ride with iOS I’m mostly back on hardware. It’s incredibly hard to beat tactile playing, and also I find the hardware just sounds so much better than the iOS stuff with very little work to do to get it that way, instead of the opposite.

    Could not agree more. iOS has such a wide pallete of sounds thanks to very big app base but very often it is hard to not notice that the iOS synths lack something. Is it a matter of amplification since I am running everything through the audio jack? Do not know. But still, for to be able to play all these things on hardware, one need to be a Lotto winner. Not mentioning that some of the software emulated synths are not on the market anymore (or crazy expensive secondhand).
    So at the end, my conclusion is that we should be happy with what we have, and that nothing beats the real thing.

    Actually, even little old SunrizerXS beats the real JP-8000 and fits in my pocket.

  • @TheSoundKid said:

    @MrSmileZ said:
    The moog stuff of course model d/model 15...but the Juno stuff...hmmm not so much on iOS that gets very close

    Sunrizer does a great JP8080/8000 but not really quite Juno.
    Poison 202? Hmmmm
    The zencore synth in zenbeats?

    After a long ride with iOS I’m mostly back on hardware. It’s incredibly hard to beat tactile playing, and also I find the hardware just sounds so much better than the iOS stuff with very little work to do to get it that way, instead of the opposite.

    The audience won’t able to find any difference the sound between hardware and iOS synth

    Which, just like my post, is an opinion...not a tested reality. Correcting somebody with an opinion you have is kinda meh.
    I can tell the difference in any iOS synth and my dreadbox typhon quickly. In fact the only synths that I own that might be a little harder for me to tell, would be the microfreak or maybe the mc707...but even then I think I can pick them out without too much effort. Maybe there is some aura of truth to the fans/audience not knowing the difference, but also maybe not...depends on The Who those people are more than likely.

  • If I am recording a bassline you can guarantee it won’t be from iOS when I can use typhon or the peak...simply no comparison there honestly...Oxford FPGA Oscillators will completely walk all over the processor in the iPad...so even digital to digital it’s an unfair advantage all day...then adding all that analog after just insures defeat! To put it in perspective not even my iMac running Diva or Monark can compete with Novation Peak...and yes, there is a huge difference.

  • @jolico said:

    @israelite said:

    @MrSmileZ said:
    The moog stuff of course model d/model 15...but the Juno stuff...hmmm not so much on iOS that gets very close

    Sunrizer does a great JP8080/8000 but not really quite Juno.
    Poison 202? Hmmmm
    The zencore synth in zenbeats?

    After a long ride with iOS I’m mostly back on hardware. It’s incredibly hard to beat tactile playing, and also I find the hardware just sounds so much better than the iOS stuff with very little work to do to get it that way, instead of the opposite.

    Could not agree more. iOS has such a wide pallete of sounds thanks to very big app base but very often it is hard to not notice that the iOS synths lack something. Is it a matter of amplification since I am running everything through the audio jack? Do not know. But still, for to be able to play all these things on hardware, one need to be a Lotto winner. Not mentioning that some of the software emulated synths are not on the market anymore (or crazy expensive secondhand).
    So at the end, my conclusion is that we should be happy with what we have, and that nothing beats the real thing.

    Actually, even little old SunrizerXS beats the real JP-8000 and fits in my pocket.

    If portability, price, and quantity appeal to you...sure thing! Yes indeed! By all means have a blast with iOS, as I can certainly see the draw...

  • @MrSmileZ said:
    If I am recording a bassline you can guarantee it won’t be from iOS when I can use typhon or the peak...simply no comparison there honestly...Oxford FPGA Oscillators will completely walk all over the processor in the iPad...so even digital to digital it’s an unfair advantage all day...then adding all that analog after just insures defeat! To put it in perspective not even my iMac running Diva or Monark can compete with Novation Peak...and yes, there is a huge difference.

    Is this difference audible in YouTube videos? I would love to hear a comparison.

  • @jolico said:

    @MrSmileZ said:
    If I am recording a bassline you can guarantee it won’t be from iOS when I can use typhon or the peak...simply no comparison there honestly...Oxford FPGA Oscillators will completely walk all over the processor in the iPad...so even digital to digital it’s an unfair advantage all day...then adding all that analog after just insures defeat! To put it in perspective not even my iMac running Diva or Monark can compete with Novation Peak...and yes, there is a huge difference.

    Is this difference audible in YouTube videos? I would love to hear a comparison.

    Never mind. Just saw the price.
    £1,129.00

  • YouTube? Hahahahaa
    YouTube audio is known to be ‘not so good” how would this be a comparison at all?

    If you want to compare properly, take your iPad/iPhone into a music store and plug it in (most stores will allow this)
    Now get on a real synthesizer, and AB the actual sound. I recommend this route over YouTube. Also use monitors, or good quality headphones as you do this comparison. I think it would literally take you 10 minutes to compare a moog sub37 to anything you can load up on your iPad. There is a huge difference between let’s say a Korg minilogue xd and a moog sub37, for example.

  • @MrSmileZ said:
    YouTube? Hahahahaa
    YouTube audio is known to be ‘not so good” how would this be a comparison at all?

    If you want to compare properly, take your iPad/iPhone into a music store and plug it in (most stores will allow this)
    Now get on a real synthesizer, and AB the actual sound. I recommend this route over YouTube. Also use monitors, or good quality headphones as you do this comparison. I think it would literally take you 10 minutes to compare a moog sub37 to anything you can load up on your iPad. There is a huge difference between let’s say a Korg minilogue xd and a moog sub37, for example.

    I better stay away from music stores then.

    It’s a bit too pricey for me at the moment.

  • @jolico said:

    @jolico said:

    @MrSmileZ said:
    If I am recording a bassline you can guarantee it won’t be from iOS when I can use typhon or the peak...simply no comparison there honestly...Oxford FPGA Oscillators will completely walk all over the processor in the iPad...so even digital to digital it’s an unfair advantage all day...then adding all that analog after just insures defeat! To put it in perspective not even my iMac running Diva or Monark can compete with Novation Peak...and yes, there is a huge difference.

    Is this difference audible in YouTube videos? I would love to hear a comparison.

    Never mind. Just saw the price.
    £1,129.00

    You have proved my point a little here...there is a reason people pay that price ;). If iOS truly was a clear winner here, it would be quite the opposite. Nobody would pay 50 or more times as much for a small difference. Like I said I may have 90% of all synths on iOS, and the iPad is getting little to no use on a regular.

  • edited December 2020

    @jolico said:

    @MrSmileZ said:
    YouTube? Hahahahaa
    YouTube audio is known to be ‘not so good” how would this be a comparison at all?

    If you want to compare properly, take your iPad/iPhone into a music store and plug it in (most stores will allow this)
    Now get on a real synthesizer, and AB the actual sound. I recommend this route over YouTube. Also use monitors, or good quality headphones as you do this comparison. I think it would literally take you 10 minutes to compare a moog sub37 to anything you can load up on your iPad. There is a huge difference between let’s say a Korg minilogue xd and a moog sub37, for example.

    I better stay away from music stores then.

    It’s a bit too pricey for me at the moment.

    Yea I should too...but...no regrets
    Dreadbox typhon is amazing for 375.00 USD, just saying
    It competes with synths in the 1499 to 2000 USD range
    It’s small, built like a tank, has insanely good effects that you can use with its audio input
    Great big juicy analog oscillators
    A sequencer with probability
    And it can run off a battery bank...
    I would highly recommend this synth to anyone who doesn’t have a big budget but wants to have a big sound!

  • @MrSmileZ said:

    @jolico said:

    @MrSmileZ said:
    YouTube? Hahahahaa
    YouTube audio is known to be ‘not so good” how would this be a comparison at all?

    If you want to compare properly, take your iPad/iPhone into a music store and plug it in (most stores will allow this)
    Now get on a real synthesizer, and AB the actual sound. I recommend this route over YouTube. Also use monitors, or good quality headphones as you do this comparison. I think it would literally take you 10 minutes to compare a moog sub37 to anything you can load up on your iPad. There is a huge difference between let’s say a Korg minilogue xd and a moog sub37, for example.

    I better stay away from music stores then.

    It’s a bit too pricey for me at the moment.

    Yea I should too...but...no regrets
    Dreadbox typhon is amazing for 375.00 USD, just saying
    It competes with synths in the 1499 to 2000 USD range
    It’s small, built like a tank, has insanely good effects that you can use with its audio input
    Great big juicy analog oscillators
    A sequencer with probability
    And it can run off a battery bank...
    I would highly recommend this synth to anyone who doesn’t have a big budget but wants to have a big sound!

    I still have my old SH-101, SH-09, Syntechno TeeBee etc. since the 90s.
    I haven’t switched them on for over 2 years.
    Even the capacitors in my JP-8000 are leaking from non-use.

    For live performance in front of an audience, I get it.
    I wouldn’t play in front of a crowd only with my iPhone, but it is great for those instant flashes of inspiration that could be lost forever.

    Same as cameras etc.
    SLRs are awesome, but I always have my phone with me.

  • @MrSmileZ said:

    @TheSoundKid said:

    @MrSmileZ said:
    The moog stuff of course model d/model 15...but the Juno stuff...hmmm not so much on iOS that gets very close

    Sunrizer does a great JP8080/8000 but not really quite Juno.
    Poison 202? Hmmmm
    The zencore synth in zenbeats?

    After a long ride with iOS I’m mostly back on hardware. It’s incredibly hard to beat tactile playing, and also I find the hardware just sounds so much better than the iOS stuff with very little work to do to get it that way, instead of the opposite.

    The audience won’t able to find any difference the sound between hardware and iOS synth

    Which, just like my post, is an opinion...not a tested reality. Correcting somebody with an opinion you have is kinda meh.
    I can tell the difference in any iOS synth and my dreadbox typhon quickly. In fact the only synths that I own that might be a little harder for me to tell, would be the microfreak or maybe the mc707...but even then I think I can pick them out without too much effort. Maybe there is some aura of truth to the fans/audience not knowing the difference, but also maybe not...depends on The Who those people are more than likely.

    Re Model D: a few people have done blind comparisons and basically concluded that the two were nearly indistinguishable except on patches where the the resonance is cranked and and the levels cranked to distort...it is a somewhat esoteric case that most people won’t encounter. You can find some videos of people doing those comparisons.

    A lot of very successful records have been recorded with primarily digital synths. I read a rave about Jon Hopkins use of analog synths by someone...and then listened to an interview with Hopkins in which he mentioned that almost all the sounds on the record I question had been done with Reaktor.

    A lot of emulations won’t sound identical to the original and yet would be equally satisfactory in a mix.

  • @TheSoundKid said:>
    The audience won’t able to find any difference the sound between hardware and iOS synth

    High end instruments are mainly to stimulate the musician though, not the audience.

  • @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:
    High end instruments are mainly to stimulate the musician though, not the audience.

    Go on >:)

  • @ipadthai said:

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:
    High end instruments are mainly to stimulate the musician though, not the audience.

    Go on >:)

    We can hear and feel things from the instrument the audience cannot. This can affect our performance.

  • edited December 2020

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @TheSoundKid said:>
    The audience won’t able to find any difference the sound between hardware and iOS synth

    High end instruments are mainly to stimulate the musician though, not the audience.

    such trends are changing now. Musicians opt out mobility and starting to stick with VST / iOS synth. One of my closest source from musicians in India told me that greatest hits of past 2 years were just made in laptop.

    I think the future is definitely through iPadOs.

  • edited December 2020

    @TheSoundKid said:

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @TheSoundKid said:>
    The audience won’t able to find any difference the sound between hardware and iOS synth

    High end instruments are mainly to stimulate the musician though, not the audience.

    such trends are changing now. Musicians opt out mobility and starting to stick with VST / iOS synth. One of my closest source from musicians in India told me that greatest hits of past 2 years were just made in laptop.

    I think the future is definitely through iPadOs.

    Definitely. Software will get better and who knows what more would be possible in a few years. But whoever is stating confidently that there is no comparison or that comparison between soft and hardware is indistinguishable, has clearly little or no experience with hardware synths.
    I recommend getting something simple and cheap like Yamaha reface and checking if you would not fall in love with how the hardware sounds.

  • edited December 2020

    Hardware is great but software is just more flexible and of course there are software synths no hardware could replace it and vice versa.
    F.e. for digital sounds Alchemy is still the most interesting synth for me.
    For that organic analog sound its harder and for me there is one synth i even prefer over hardware. P900 which sounds for me better than a lot hardware analog stuff and it might one day come to iOS.
    As usual a personal flavor and depends on things you feel while you play them, tweak knobs in real-time. If it inspires you it doesn‘t matter.
    Same as with sample libraries. Will they replace a real orchestra...no but as long as it inspires you.
    I played some anlog synths and the tactile feedback and response is the main thing here for me but that‘s it for me.

  • edited December 2020

    @israelite said:

    @TheSoundKid said:

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @TheSoundKid said:>
    The audience won’t able to find any difference the sound between hardware and iOS synth

    High end instruments are mainly to stimulate the musician though, not the audience.

    such trends are changing now. Musicians opt out mobility and starting to stick with VST / iOS synth. One of my closest source from musicians in India told me that greatest hits of past 2 years were just made in laptop.

    I think the future is definitely through iPadOs.

    Definitely. Software will get better and who knows what more would be possible in a few years. But whoever is stating confidently that there is no comparison or that comparison between soft and hardware is indistinguishable, has clearly little or no experience with hardware synths.
    I recommend getting something simple and cheap like Yamaha reface and checking if you would not fall in love with how the hardware sounds.

    One of my favourite Electribe 2S was replaced by Grooverider and now Korg E2S is sleeping in the dust.

    With recent MIDI 2.0 standard & upcoming powerful processor line ups and unified memory technology, Sound designing will have limitless possibilities and hardware synths would soon be eradicated. This is my personal opinion.

  • @israelite said:

    @TheSoundKid said:

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @TheSoundKid said:>
    The audience won’t able to find any difference the sound between hardware and iOS synth

    High end instruments are mainly to stimulate the musician though, not the audience.

    such trends are changing now. Musicians opt out mobility and starting to stick with VST / iOS synth. One of my closest source from musicians in India told me that greatest hits of past 2 years were just made in laptop.

    I think the future is definitely through iPadOs.

    Definitely. Software will get better and who knows what more would be possible in a few years. But whoever is stating confidently that there is no comparison or that comparison between soft and hardware is indistinguishable, has clearly little or no experience with hardware synths.

    There are plenty of people with hardware experience that use and like digital synths.

    I recommend getting something simple and cheap like Yamaha reface and checking if you would not fall in love with how the hardware sounds.

  • edited December 2020

    Which is better: MAC or PC?

    🤔

  • @Crawlingwind said:
    Which is better: MAC or PC?

    🤔

    Depends on how unstable you want your oscillators.

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