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2021 iOS App Sales and Discussion

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  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @NeuM said:

    @Cambler said:

    @NeuM said:

    @Cambler said:
    Hey team, I’m keen to grab one of the Swam String instruments while they’re on sale. Budget doesn’t stretch past one or is by the bundle. Just wondering if I’d be better to go for the violin or viola, just in terms of range. I’ll be mostly applying generous splashes of reverb and other post production for my uses. Thanks for any thoughts!

    I mean, they’re different instruments, so if you prefer the tonal qualities of one versus the other, then there’s your answer.

    Thanks @NeuM . I guess I was wondering how far either could be pushed in terms of pitch range. Sorry, wasn’t very clear.

    The range of each emulates the real range of both instruments. The violin range is from G2-F6. The viola plays slightly lower in the overall range (C2-C6). I like both, however I have serious issues with the MPE implementation for iPad, which has not been optimized for the devices. If you are using a physical external controller keyboard you will probably have a better experience.

    In what way do you find the MPE implementation lacking?

  • NeuMNeuM

    @busker said:

    @NeuM said:
    I like both, however I have serious issues with the MPE implementation for iPad, which has not been optimized for the devices. If you are using a physical external controller keyboard you will probably have a better experience.

    Have you tried Pen2bow for the SWAM String instruments?

    If only the FingerFiddle app could trigger SWAM stringed instruments.

  • aleyasaleyas
    edited August 2021

    @mjcouche said:

    @Nathi94 said:
    Is the Swam Solo string Bundle worth it for someone who has Beathwawk(Doublebass and string/orchestra iaps) and Ns2( Acoustic 1/2 iaps)?
    I also just would use them with kb-1/velocity keyboard. Or would it be a waste of money in that case?

    im mostly interested in the Cello and double bass but would take the others as a bonus in the bundle.

    100% worth it. Nothing compares. Nothing.

    Agreed, totally worth it. Being able to tweak the harmonics, bow position and bow pressure on the fly can lead to some unreal timbres. I thought they were expensive at first, but when I automated the harmonics control with a step sequence in Drambo, I realized these were the most incredible strings software I've ever used. You can push these far beyond then their 'intended' use. I don't think you'll be disappointed @Nathi94

  • bpertbpert

    Disco DSP is on sale right now. OB-Xd AUv3 synth is 50% off at $4.99. For another buck you can get a bundle with all 4 of their apps.

    https://apps.apple.com/us/app/ob-xd-auv3-synth/id1465262829

  • Nathi94Nathi94

    @aleyas said:

    @mjcouche said:

    @Nathi94 said:
    Is the Swam Solo string Bundle worth it for someone who has Beathwawk(Doublebass and string/orchestra iaps) and Ns2( Acoustic 1/2 iaps)?
    I also just would use them with kb-1/velocity keyboard. Or would it be a waste of money in that case?

    im mostly interested in the Cello and double bass but would take the others as a bonus in the bundle.

    100% worth it. Nothing compares. Nothing.

    Agreed, totally worth it. Being able to tweak the harmonics, bow position and bow pressure on the fly can lead to some unreal timbres. I thought they were expensive at first, but when I automated the harmonics control with a step sequence in Drambo, I realized these were the most incredible strings software I've ever used. You can push these far beyond then their 'intended' use. I don't think you'll be disappointed @Nathi94

    Yea that’s what appeals to me a lot, beeing able to tweak some stuff to change the timbres and also having the dry sound from it without the reverb like in some sample based. I’m not planning writing some classical music so the price is a big high for me. But like you said the control makes it also perfect to pushed into other things :smile:

  • KirbyMumboKirbyMumbo
    edited August 2021

    I had the swam strings bundle but refunded it as it sounded like the different instruments were just different octaves. I do have the violin and trumpet and they do sound amazing.

  • aleyasaleyas
    edited August 2021

    @Nathi94 said:

    @aleyas said:

    @mjcouche said:

    @Nathi94 said:
    Is the Swam Solo string Bundle worth it for someone who has Beathwawk(Doublebass and string/orchestra iaps) and Ns2( Acoustic 1/2 iaps)?
    I also just would use them with kb-1/velocity keyboard. Or would it be a waste of money in that case?

    im mostly interested in the Cello and double bass but would take the others as a bonus in the bundle.

    100% worth it. Nothing compares. Nothing.

    Agreed, totally worth it. Being able to tweak the harmonics, bow position and bow pressure on the fly can lead to some unreal timbres. I thought they were expensive at first, but when I automated the harmonics control with a step sequence in Drambo, I realized these were the most incredible strings software I've ever used. You can push these far beyond then their 'intended' use. I don't think you'll be disappointed @Nathi94

    Yea that’s what appeals to me a lot, beeing able to tweak some stuff to change the timbres and also having the dry sound from it without the reverb like in some sample based. I’m not planning writing some classical music so the price is a big high for me. But like you said the control makes it also perfect to pushed into other things :smile:

    Just wanna demonstrate a few of the sounds you can twist out of the double bass. Some of it sounds so good, distorted and metal to me. You can get super experimental with these.
    I remember you use Drambo - messing with the exposed parameters is more fun than it has any right to be.

  • WhiteWhite

    LK iap's are on sale:

  • Nathi94Nathi94

    @aleyas said:

    @Nathi94 said:

    @aleyas said:

    @mjcouche said:

    @Nathi94 said:
    Is the Swam Solo string Bundle worth it for someone who has Beathwawk(Doublebass and string/orchestra iaps) and Ns2( Acoustic 1/2 iaps)?
    I also just would use them with kb-1/velocity keyboard. Or would it be a waste of money in that case?

    im mostly interested in the Cello and double bass but would take the others as a bonus in the bundle.

    100% worth it. Nothing compares. Nothing.

    Agreed, totally worth it. Being able to tweak the harmonics, bow position and bow pressure on the fly can lead to some unreal timbres. I thought they were expensive at first, but when I automated the harmonics control with a step sequence in Drambo, I realized these were the most incredible strings software I've ever used. You can push these far beyond then their 'intended' use. I don't think you'll be disappointed @Nathi94

    Yea that’s what appeals to me a lot, beeing able to tweak some stuff to change the timbres and also having the dry sound from it without the reverb like in some sample based. I’m not planning writing some classical music so the price is a big high for me. But like you said the control makes it also perfect to pushed into other things :smile:

    Just wanna demonstrate a few of the sounds you can twist out of the double bass. Some of it sounds so good, distorted and metal to me. You can get super experimental with these.
    I remember you use Drambo - messing with the exposed parameters is more fun than it has any right to be.

    Wow thanks very useful! Yes i have Drambo and seeing this crazy possibilities with mapping parameters sold me on it. Sounds so great😊

  • PoppadocrockPoppadocrock

    @White said:
    LK iap's are on sale:

    Ohhhhhh. That’s a good catch @White

  • PoppadocrockPoppadocrock

    Yea, I definitely recommend CC modulating all the swam instruments, it take them to another level. Definitely try modulating the expression, vibrato depth, vibrato rate.

  • PoppadocrockPoppadocrock

    Nice sounds @Nathi94

  • Edward_AlexanderEdward_Alexander

    @aleyas said:

    @Nathi94 said:

    @aleyas said:

    @mjcouche said:

    @Nathi94 said:
    Is the Swam Solo string Bundle worth it for someone who has Beathwawk(Doublebass and string/orchestra iaps) and Ns2( Acoustic 1/2 iaps)?
    I also just would use them with kb-1/velocity keyboard. Or would it be a waste of money in that case?

    im mostly interested in the Cello and double bass but would take the others as a bonus in the bundle.

    100% worth it. Nothing compares. Nothing.

    Agreed, totally worth it. Being able to tweak the harmonics, bow position and bow pressure on the fly can lead to some unreal timbres. I thought they were expensive at first, but when I automated the harmonics control with a step sequence in Drambo, I realized these were the most incredible strings software I've ever used. You can push these far beyond then their 'intended' use. I don't think you'll be disappointed @Nathi94

    Yea that’s what appeals to me a lot, beeing able to tweak some stuff to change the timbres and also having the dry sound from it without the reverb like in some sample based. I’m not planning writing some classical music so the price is a big high for me. But like you said the control makes it also perfect to pushed into other things :smile:

    Just wanna demonstrate a few of the sounds you can twist out of the double bass. Some of it sounds so good, distorted and metal to me. You can get super experimental with these.
    I remember you use Drambo - messing with the exposed parameters is more fun than it has any right to be.

    Dang, I was this close to pulling the trigger on the Cello 🤌

    Now I can’t decide between the cello or the Double Bass! I can only buy one…..

  • Edward_AlexanderEdward_Alexander

    Oh, and I DID purchase the X/Y pad in LK.

    I intend on using that on an iPhone that’ll lay right next to my Launchpad Pro MK3 for some sexy expressionisms… 🤙🤙😂

    (MIDI CTRL over Bluetooth in AUM FTW!

  • Edward_AlexanderEdward_Alexander

    Thank you once again @Poppadocrock for this thread!

  • Nathi94Nathi94

    @Poppadocrock oh yes very nice the video is by @aleyas :smile:
    @Edward_Alexander It started for me with Cello and after hearing the others in the bundle and what modulation can get achieved i knew i want bundle^^ Still a lot of money😬 If you have the Beathawk double bass iap maybe you could go with Cello :smile:

  • Edward_AlexanderEdward_Alexander

    Thinking I should get the Double Bass as I already have the GeoSWAM Cello. I know the stand-alone SWAM Cello has a lot more expression features and settings, but… I can probably reach the Cello range with the Double Bass anyway, right???

  • Edward_AlexanderEdward_Alexander

    @Nathi94 said:
    @Poppadocrock oh yes very nice the video is by @aleyas :smile:
    @Edward_Alexander It started for me with Cello and after hearing the others in the bundle and what modulation can get achieved i knew i want bundle^^ Still a lot of money😬 If you have the Beathawk double bass iap maybe you could go with Cello :smile:

    Hmmm lemme start up BeatHawk and see how much the Double Bass IAP is, that might be the way to go.

  • Edward_AlexanderEdward_Alexander

    @Edward_Alexander said:

    @Nathi94 said:
    @Poppadocrock oh yes very nice the video is by @aleyas :smile:
    @Edward_Alexander It started for me with Cello and after hearing the others in the bundle and what modulation can get achieved i knew i want bundle^^ Still a lot of money😬 If you have the Beathawk double bass iap maybe you could go with Cello :smile:

    Hmmm lemme start up BeatHawk and see how much the Double Bass IAP is, that might be the way to go.

    Eh… the BeatHawk DB is just a collection of samples isn’t it?

  • Nathi94Nathi94

    @Edward_Alexander said:

    @Edward_Alexander said:

    @Nathi94 said:
    @Poppadocrock oh yes very nice the video is by @aleyas :smile:
    @Edward_Alexander It started for me with Cello and after hearing the others in the bundle and what modulation can get achieved i knew i want bundle^^ Still a lot of money😬 If you have the Beathawk double bass iap maybe you could go with Cello :smile:

    Hmmm lemme start up BeatHawk and see how much the Double Bass IAP is, that might be the way to go.

    Eh… the BeatHawk DB is just a collection of samples isn’t it?

    Unfortunately yes and not much control over the sound. 4 Categories and the Acoustic bass has 12 variations in it.

  • MatthewKayMatthewKay
    edited August 2021

    LK: Does the wired connection only work when the device is plugged straight into the computer? I’m not getting it to work through a USB hub or iConnect interface? Okay my phone shows up through my hub but my iPad does not. I am seeing the connection via WiFi.

  • ambrosiajamambrosiajam

    @Poppadocrock said:
    2 AUv3 modes

    sequencer mode - 1 of the four sequencers you get in standalone
    Arp mode - send midi into the shapes for arpeggios

    It also has 4 midi outs in standalone, 5 if you count drum sequencer
    It also does cc modulation inside standalone or can be used to modulate things outside the app, I think it said that in manual but I’ve yet to figure that out.

    I think the auv3 sequencer/arp is worth 5.99 alone, then you get the standalone, it is only the first 48 hours after purchase but it seems dope. You can select a bunch of shapes, you can draw in the sequence of notes, or select a sequence of notes, set notes or scales. Pinch, zoom, rotate shape and size… Etc…

    Manual.
    https://aphelian.io/manual.pdf

    Wow I thought this app would be good but it crackles like CRAZY whenever I use it. I don't get this problem with a lot of apps. I also bought FAC drumkit and it literally crashes every single time I start building a drum patch. Bad luck I guess, cuz I get very few issues with other apps!

  • PoppadocrockPoppadocrock

    Draw/Graphics

    LetSketch is Free usually $1.99 so are all 3 IAPS. GRAB IT UP AND UNLOCK THE IAPS.

    https://apps.apple.com/us/app/letsketch/id1234407734

  • PoppadocrockPoppadocrock

    Photos

    Musicpics is free usually $3.99 - share slides on TikTok

    https://apps.apple.com/us/app/musicpics/id1447574249

  • PoppadocrockPoppadocrock

    Helium is $2 off down to $7.99

    https://apps.apple.com/us/app/helium-auv3-midi-sequencer/id1563152523

  • Paulo164Paulo164

    @Nathi94 said:
    Is the Swam Solo string Bundle worth it for someone who has Beathwawk(Doublebass and string/orchestra iaps) and Ns2( Acoustic 1/2 iaps)?
    I also just would use them with kb-1/velocity keyboard. Or would it be a waste of money in that case?

    im mostly interested in the Cello and double bass but would take the others as a bonus in the bundle.

    BeatHawk Strings sound pack can't compare with SWAM solo strings.
    BeatHawk Strings is for ensemble and is very good for that whereas SWAM is for soloing. But I guess you already know that.

    Regarding string solo, I still think Finger Fiddle is unbeatable. This is the virtual instrument in the world that come the closest to a real cello/violin, thanks not only to its excellent sound engine but also its natural playing surface. Almost everything is thought to react like a real cello. You can do tremolos the way you want, attack notes the way you want, pizzicato, etc. all this without having to switch to another "playing mode".

    Now for SWAM, don't get me wrong. They are excellent and offer a full integration as AUv3 into a DAW. I bought the bundle and, thanks to the power of my new iPad M1 and a dedicated Streambyter script, I managed to create a full chamber orchestra (3 instruments per sections) and it sound incredibly good :smiley:

  • Nathi94Nathi94

    @Paulo164 said:

    @Nathi94 said:
    Is the Swam Solo string Bundle worth it for someone who has Beathwawk(Doublebass and string/orchestra iaps) and Ns2( Acoustic 1/2 iaps)?
    I also just would use them with kb-1/velocity keyboard. Or would it be a waste of money in that case?

    im mostly interested in the Cello and double bass but would take the others as a bonus in the bundle.

    BeatHawk Strings sound pack can't compare with SWAM solo strings.
    BeatHawk Strings is for ensemble and is very good for that whereas SWAM is for soloing. But I guess you already know that.

    Regarding string solo, I still think Finger Fiddle is unbeatable. This is the virtual instrument in the world that come the closest to a real cello/violin, thanks not only to its excellent sound engine but also its natural playing surface. Almost everything is thought to react like a real cello. You can do tremolos the way you want, attack notes the way you want, pizzicato, etc. all this without having to switch to another "playing mode".

    Now for SWAM, don't get me wrong. They are excellent and offer a full integration as AUv3 into a DAW. I bought the bundle and, thanks to the power of my new iPad M1 and a dedicated Streambyter script, I managed to create a full chamber orchestra (3 instruments per sections) and it sound incredibly good :smiley:

    Yea i pulled the trigger on the bundle and i love the quality and expression of this apps. Beathawk and Swam working well together :)
    I didn’t know of Fingler fiddler, seems like a good app but auv3 in this case was a must for me.

  • Edward_AlexanderEdward_Alexander
    edited August 2021

    @ambrosiajam said:

    @Poppadocrock said:
    2 AUv3 modes

    sequencer mode - 1 of the four sequencers you get in standalone
    Arp mode - send midi into the shapes for arpeggios

    It also has 4 midi outs in standalone, 5 if you count drum sequencer
    It also does cc modulation inside standalone or can be used to modulate things outside the app, I think it said that in manual but I’ve yet to figure that out.

    I think the auv3 sequencer/arp is worth 5.99 alone, then you get the standalone, it is only the first 48 hours after purchase but it seems dope. You can select a bunch of shapes, you can draw in the sequence of notes, or select a sequence of notes, set notes or scales. Pinch, zoom, rotate shape and size… Etc…

    Manual.
    https://aphelian.io/manual.pdf

    Wow I thought this app would be good but it crackles like CRAZY whenever I use it. I don't get this problem with a lot of apps. I also bought FAC drumkit and it literally crashes every single time I start building a drum patch. Bad luck I guess, cuz I get very few issues with other apps!

    Hmmm, I wonder if _ Aphelian_ was what was causing my crackles in my latest project now. I just assumed it was the beta VS Visual Synthesizer. I was kinda surprised that my new M1 iPad PRO was throwing in the white towel so soon! Maybe Aphelian is the culprit!

    If anyone is curious, I created a piece using Aphelian’s standalone IAA app in AUM driving 4 AU synths. Added a few extra bells and whistles for good measure. Ended up having to dial back the visuals as I was starting to get some crackles and pops.

    https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/comment/983993#Comment_983993

  • mjcouchemjcouche

    @Paulo164 said:

    @Nathi94 said:
    Is the Swam Solo string Bundle worth it for someone who has Beathwawk(Doublebass and string/orchestra iaps) and Ns2( Acoustic 1/2 iaps)?
    I also just would use them with kb-1/velocity keyboard. Or would it be a waste of money in that case?

    im mostly interested in the Cello and double bass but would take the others as a bonus in the bundle.

    BeatHawk Strings sound pack can't compare with SWAM solo strings.
    BeatHawk Strings is for ensemble and is very good for that whereas SWAM is for soloing. But I guess you already know that.

    Regarding string solo, I still think Finger Fiddle is unbeatable. This is the virtual instrument in the world that come the closest to a real cello/violin, thanks not only to its excellent sound engine but also its natural playing surface. Almost everything is thought to react like a real cello. You can do tremolos the way you want, attack notes the way you want, pizzicato, etc. all this without having to switch to another "playing mode".

    Now for SWAM, don't get me wrong. They are excellent and offer a full integration as AUv3 into a DAW. I bought the bundle and, thanks to the power of my new iPad M1 and a dedicated Streambyter script, I managed to create a full chamber orchestra (3 instruments per sections) and it sound incredibly good :smiley:

    +4 on FingerFiddle. It is amazing. You definitely have to learn how to perform it. But really takes advantage of 3D Touch and the playing surface compared to others.

  • NeuMNeuM
    edited August 2021

    @mjcouche said:

    @Paulo164 said:

    @Nathi94 said:
    Is the Swam Solo string Bundle worth it for someone who has Beathwawk(Doublebass and string/orchestra iaps) and Ns2( Acoustic 1/2 iaps)?
    I also just would use them with kb-1/velocity keyboard. Or would it be a waste of money in that case?

    im mostly interested in the Cello and double bass but would take the others as a bonus in the bundle.

    BeatHawk Strings sound pack can't compare with SWAM solo strings.
    BeatHawk Strings is for ensemble and is very good for that whereas SWAM is for soloing. But I guess you already know that.

    Regarding string solo, I still think Finger Fiddle is unbeatable. This is the virtual instrument in the world that come the closest to a real cello/violin, thanks not only to its excellent sound engine but also its natural playing surface. Almost everything is thought to react like a real cello. You can do tremolos the way you want, attack notes the way you want, pizzicato, etc. all this without having to switch to another "playing mode".

    Now for SWAM, don't get me wrong. They are excellent and offer a full integration as AUv3 into a DAW. I bought the bundle and, thanks to the power of my new iPad M1 and a dedicated Streambyter script, I managed to create a full chamber orchestra (3 instruments per sections) and it sound incredibly good :smiley:

    +4 on FingerFiddle. It is amazing. You definitely have to learn how to perform it. But really takes advantage of 3D Touch and the playing surface compared to others.

    Having played a real violin for years, I agree FingerFiddle is the real deal. It is awkward to coordinate the correct finger positions on the virtual neck, but if you can approach some level of mastery of the app, it blows away anything you can get out of SWAM. I’m surprised that particular developer hasn’t done more with his instrument modeling expertise.

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