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  • Thanks for the link! I'm actually gonna make something like this as my next DIY project, and there are lots of good ideas there. I'm still trying to think through the controls design and was fairly close to this layout, but still considering what's the best for my workflow.

  • If anyone has input as to what they think the perfect custom built controller for Drambo would be I'd love to see a sketch or even a description. All ideas are great, but here are some of the restrictions I will be placing on mine due to cost constraints:

    1. 16 buttons (not velocity sensitive pads) arranged in a 4x4 grid. These buttons can light up, flash, etc, in any color, per button). This is because I have a pre-built button array that I like very much and is very cost effective. (I may consider having two of these if 32 switches seem essential).
    2. Up to 8 rotary encoders. Unfortunately, there is no LED dial to indicate position. Each can also act as a push-button though.
    3. Scene control slider.
    4. Four digit "digital clock" style display similar to the video.
    5. Maybe up to 8 small faders, or pots if it seems essential.
    6. Maybe a 32x8 character LCD readout, but only if it really, really seems essential.
  • Check out Yaeltex.com which gives you the ability to construct your own midi controller. I have playing with some concepts there in their sketch tool.

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  • Akai doesn't manufacture the MPD232 anymore.

  • Thanks for the input. All input is appreciated! I'm not looking to recreate any existing product, though.

    A DYI recreation of production controller work as well and will cost about the same or more. The only reason to do a DIY controller is if there's some really good purpose-built control layout that is unique and useful. I'm thinking something uniquely useful for Drambo, and limited in the number of components as outlined above.

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  • edited January 2021

    I made a console for my Launchpad mini and MidiFighter Twister to satisfy my midi controller needs.
    Both are programmable and make a good combination of buttons and knobs.
    Launchpad has 3 custom pages (64x3 buttons)
    Twister has 4 pages (16 X4 knobs)
    You need LaunchpadX for velocity sensitive pads. I preferred smaller size and no velocity sensitivity.
    The console also has a hub, soundcard, battery and iPad stand built in.


    (I'm not using for Drambo, though)

  • edited January 2021

    Arturia Beatstep Pro

  • Or Arturia Keystep Pro

  • edited January 2021

    @Stuntman_mike said:
    Arturia Beatstep Pro

    Or Arturia Keystep Pro

    I just added both to my toolbox over the holidays. Still trying to figure how best to set them up. It’ll be great when you can map Drambo’s sequencer buttons.

  • @Liquidmantis said:

    @Stuntman_mike said:
    Arturia Beatstep Pro

    Or Arturia Keystep Pro

    I just added both to my toolbox over the holidays. Still trying to figure how best to set them up. It’ll be great when you can map Drambo’s sequencer buttons.

    Ohh, is that planned? That would be cool.

  • edited January 2021

    Beatstep Pro:
    Press DRUM, hold CHAN, and then select the channel you want the drums to send on.
    Press SEQUENCER 1, hold CHAN and choose a channel for the first sequencer to send on.
    Press SEQUENCER 2, hold CHAN, and choose a channel for the second sequencer to send on.

    I recall the default channels being 1-3.

  • @auxmux said:

    @Liquidmantis said:

    @Stuntman_mike said:
    Arturia Beatstep Pro

    Or Arturia Keystep Pro

    I just added both to my toolbox over the holidays. Still trying to figure how best to set them up. It’ll be great when you can map Drambo’s sequencer buttons.

    Ohh, is that planned? That would be cool.

    @giku_beepstreet has made some sly, subtle comments about that and more MIDI control goodness coming. I’m really hopeful. If we can get that combined with LED feedback it’ll make Drambo a Digitakt/Digitone/Octatrack killer.

  • @wim said:
    Thanks for the link! I'm actually gonna make something like this as my next DIY project, and there are lots of good ideas there. I'm still trying to think through the controls design and was fairly close to this layout, but still considering what's the best for my workflow.

    Your workflow is the point. I have 5 different controllers here and none of them covers everything.
    I'm using:

    • Beatstep for MPE-like expression control (not yet fully supported in D)
    • Launchpads mainly for switching modes or chords, sequencer control still unsupported in D
    • Faderfox LC2 as a compact scene controller with X-fade and a few mixer controls plus a nice XY control
    • BCR2000 as a knob monster for controlling complex patches like an FM synth
    • Hercules Starlight DJ control as a fun "live" controller that comes into play when the song is mostly done, more like a remix and variation (scenes) controller.
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    edited January 2021

    @rs2000 said:

    @wim said:
    Thanks for the link! I'm actually gonna make something like this as my next DIY project, and there are lots of good ideas there. I'm still trying to think through the controls design and was fairly close to this layout, but still considering what's the best for my workflow.

    Your workflow is the point. I have 5 different controllers here and none of them covers everything.

    Yeh, I guess I should be settling on some kind of workflow before jumping in to make a controller to fit it. Cart before the horse as always. 😂

    It's probably going to end up coming down to slapping some buttons and encoders onto a case and figuring out the details in software later. :D

  • @wim said:

    @rs2000 said:

    @wim said:
    Thanks for the link! I'm actually gonna make something like this as my next DIY project, and there are lots of good ideas there. I'm still trying to think through the controls design and was fairly close to this layout, but still considering what's the best for my workflow.

    Your workflow is the point. I have 5 different controllers here and none of them covers everything.

    Yeh, I guess I should be settling on some kind of workflow before jumping in to make a controller to fit it. Cart before the horse as always. 😂

    It's probably going to end up coming down to slapping some buttons and encoders onto a case and figuring out the details in software later. :D

    Yep, that's what I mean. And I forgot to mention the one I use the most: A tiny box with nothing but two buttons and four incremental encoders. I've used that all the time with Ableton Live and because it works well with Drambo too, it's my most used little controller. The DIY part of it was to mount it inside my Arturia Keystep, that worked well because the controller pcb fit exactly into the free space inside the keyboard and it has an internal MIDI merger that allows me to send both MIDI from the Keystep as well as MIDI from the controller to one BT MIDI dongle.

  • edited May 2022

    Time to revive this thread. Since Drambo v2 I’m using it much more and I‘m thinking about a controller for Drambo. I already have quite an arsenal: AKAI APC 40 mkII, BeatStep Pro, Launchpad X, Korg nanoKeys Studio, Korg nanoKontrol 2. Which one do you think is best for Drambo? If you are using one of those, how did you map it?

    BTW, one feature request to @giku_beepstreet. On the laptop I’m using Bitwig and I think its extension API is a brilliant way to integrate controllers. Offer a mighty extension interface with a popular scripting language that allows also feedback to the controller and many hooks into Drambo events and states. Probably add one reference extension for a popular controller and the community will do the rest. Imagine NI Maschine as Drambo controller with parameters showing up in its display 😍

  • Akai Force, infinite flexibility in midi mapping with also Lfo, scenes, envelope follower etc… to me it is the most complete Drambo controller and surely it is even more. Drambo and Force it is not like having Push 2 and Ableton but you can accomplish everything with immediacy.

  • For portability, a Faderfox UC4 and a wireless MIDI keyboard is an absolutely killer combination.

  • I have an LP X and an LC XL which pair up quite nicely.
    Flexible enough for most projects and feel comfortable
    to produce and perform with.
    Though dRambo doesn't have native support
    I've been having more than enough fun getting dRambo
    to communicate with both controllers using only modular and midi.

  • @Gravitas where did you get those blank template things for your Launch Control XL?

  • @ghost_forests said:
    @Gravitas where did you get those blank template things for your Launch Control XL?

    Two companies provide them as fas as I know.

    One is called Novalays whom you can find via EBay and Instagram.
    I had asked them for wipeable overlays and they now offer them as standard.
    That's the one you can see in the video and the other is Taktility
    whom I'm about to order from as well.

    Here's their link.

    https://www.taktility.com/overlays/launch-control-xl/

    Both companies do overlays for other midi controllers and gear.

    Have a look.

  • It's been 3 weeks since I ordered it so,sadly, I think it's lost in the post.
    But I guess it gives me some more time to enter the boring parts into Mozaic....

  • @AlmostAnonymous said:
    It's been 3 weeks since I ordered it so,sadly, I think it's lost in the post.

    Oh no.

    I feel your pain.

    Anecdotal story, it may make you feel better.

    It took five months for my Zoom U-44 to get replaced under warranty
    and then I had to pay a surcharge when it was delivered which
    the distributors had promised they'll cover and then they didn't.

    But I guess it gives me some more time to enter the boring parts into Mozaic....

    Yeah, exactly.
    I went got another audio interface.
    I've now got them coming out of my ears.

  • @Michael_R_Grant said:
    For portability, a Faderfox UC4 and a wireless MIDI keyboard is an absolutely killer combination.

    They're nice and compact with a lot of functionality.
    Got its predecessor, the LC2 with only 4 encoders but XY pad joystick 😊

  • @rs2000

    Intech have got some really cool stuff.

    I'm seriously looking at the 16 x 16 number and as
    they are modular in concept you can add more as you go along.

    https://intech.studio/

  • @Michael_R_Grant said:
    For portability, a Faderfox UC4 and a wireless MIDI keyboard is an absolutely killer combination.

    That does look like it was totally made for Drambo.

    This is encouraging me to back to my custom controller designing rat hole. The problem with custom builds is making them for enough below the cost of comparable off the shelf product to make it worthwhile. The cost of this one puts that within reach.

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