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O.T.: An extraordinarily dark day in American history...

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  • @Max23 said:

    @michael_m said: but there are certainly a lot of questions as to why a large group of anti-government fanatics were allowed so much scope to march around as they pleased. The fact that Trump was due to speak to them should have had alarm bells ringing.

    they are his crowd
    thats exactly all the rubbish he talked about the last years
    anti-government, remember about the weird conspiracy about the "deep state" and "draining the swamp" all that rubbish ...
    and the racist stuff about Mexicans how they come over the border to bring drugs and rape woman
    they are his crowd
    how proud they are about that god damned wall
    they are his crowd

    and all these other friendly good people from next door in the back too 🤮
    assholes, all of them
    braunes Gesindel

    watch this (via boingboing)
    the "not extreme" trump crowd, cough

    Isn’t this the flight where ‘they’ the ‘we love you’ nuts were intimidating Mitt Romney.

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  • @cian said:

    @colonel_mustard said:
    This "armed march" plan is troubling, but just a storm I hope. If any forum members live a state capital, I hope you're not too freaked out by it. Stock up the fridge and maybe learn Drambo finally? Cities are big, and the gallows and guillotine crowd will all have their photos taken.

    I do, but we survived the 'protect the confederate flag' protests, so I'm sure we'll survive this. Half our capitol probably supported it anyway - Lindsey bloody Graham got in a plane with Trump, and Scott (an incredibly weird guy. I mean you'd expect a black Republican in SC to be weird, but he's weirder than that) is still defending him I think.

    More like ‘protect the flag that is erroneously associated with the Confederacy but in reality gained popularity with the second rebirth of the Klan in the 1930s’ protests.

  • @michael_m said:

    @cian said:

    @colonel_mustard said:
    This "armed march" plan is troubling, but just a storm I hope. If any forum members live a state capital, I hope you're not too freaked out by it. Stock up the fridge and maybe learn Drambo finally? Cities are big, and the gallows and guillotine crowd will all have their photos taken.

    I do, but we survived the 'protect the confederate flag' protests, so I'm sure we'll survive this. Half our capitol probably supported it anyway - Lindsey bloody Graham got in a plane with Trump, and Scott (an incredibly weird guy. I mean you'd expect a black Republican in SC to be weird, but he's weirder than that) is still defending him I think.

    More like ‘protect the flag that is erroneously associated with the Confederacy but in reality gained popularity with the second rebirth of the Klan in the 1930s’ protests.

    You are correct about the resurgence of the loser rag in the 20’s and 30’s.
    However, it had an even more massive presence in the south in the wake of Brown v The Board of Education.

  • @michael_m said:

    @cian said:

    @colonel_mustard said:
    This "armed march" plan is troubling, but just a storm I hope. If any forum members live a state capital, I hope you're not too freaked out by it. Stock up the fridge and maybe learn Drambo finally? Cities are big, and the gallows and guillotine crowd will all have their photos taken.

    I do, but we survived the 'protect the confederate flag' protests, so I'm sure we'll survive this. Half our capitol probably supported it anyway - Lindsey bloody Graham got in a plane with Trump, and Scott (an incredibly weird guy. I mean you'd expect a black Republican in SC to be weird, but he's weirder than that) is still defending him I think.

    More like ‘protect the flag that is erroneously associated with the Confederacy but in reality gained popularity with the second rebirth of the Klan in the 1930s’ protests.

    I wouldn't call that a false association with the Confederacy. The resurgence of an overt desire to resurrect the Confederate ethos strikes me as an association with the Confederacy.

    It is one of the U.S.' greatest failures: the choice to appease the seditious traitors and end Reconstruction rather than enforce the rights of the formerly enslaved peoples. The failure to label the Confederates as traitors and relegate them to the dustbin of history as having been on the absolute wrong-side has kept alive a malignant ethos that should have no legitimacy. That anyone looks on the Confederate battle flag as a symbol of anything other than a symbol of the worst of human instincts is beyond me.

  • @michael_m said:

    @cian said:

    @colonel_mustard said:
    This "armed march" plan is troubling, but just a storm I hope. If any forum members live a state capital, I hope you're not too freaked out by it. Stock up the fridge and maybe learn Drambo finally? Cities are big, and the gallows and guillotine crowd will all have their photos taken.

    I do, but we survived the 'protect the confederate flag' protests, so I'm sure we'll survive this. Half our capitol probably supported it anyway - Lindsey bloody Graham got in a plane with Trump, and Scott (an incredibly weird guy. I mean you'd expect a black Republican in SC to be weird, but he's weirder than that) is still defending him I think.

    More like ‘protect the flag that is erroneously associated with the Confederacy but in reality gained popularity with the second rebirth of the Klan in the 1930s’ protests.

    1950s in our case, but yeah.

  • Trump just released a statement asking for no violence in coming days. No contrition, no accepting of responsibility, and no correction of any of his lies.

    It’s something, I guess.

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  • Never did I think, in this great country, I was
    gonna see a day that the majority would
    give way to the fringe. Honestly, if anything,
    you would have thought that truth wasn’t
    up for discussion. Facts are facts and clearly
    never open to alternatives. Now I’m not
    gonna lie, I can see how some of the rioters
    let themselves be led astray. Often when
    you find yourself in an echo chamber, up is
    down, right is left, external references are
    never allowed in to counter bias. Some are
    gonna agree, some will not and attack or
    run swiftly away from any idea centered
    around mutual responsibility, true centrism
    and real work from both sides. No need to
    desert you’re ideals or abandon your side,
    you only need to open the door to truth.

  • @king_picadillo said:
    Never did I think, in this great country, I was
    gonna see a day that the majority would
    give way to the fringe. Honestly, if anything,
    you would have thought that truth wasn’t
    up for discussion. Facts are facts and clearly
    never open to alternatives. Now I’m not
    gonna lie, I can see how some of the rioters
    let themselves be led astray. Often when
    you find yourself in an echo chamber, up is
    down, right is left, external references are
    never allowed in to counter bias. Some are
    gonna agree, some will not and attack or
    run swiftly away from any idea centered
    around mutual responsibility, true centrism
    and real work from both sides. No need to
    desert you’re ideals or abandon your side,
    you only need to open the door to truth.

    Out of interest, what part of the country do you live in?

    Here in SC I have seen these fringe beliefs expressed by a majority sometimes, particularly during the tenure of the last two presidents.

  • @king_picadillo said:
    Never did I think, in this great country, I was
    gonna see a day that the majority would
    give way to the fringe. Honestly, if anything,
    you would have thought that truth wasn’t
    up for discussion. Facts are facts and clearly
    never open to alternatives. Now I’m not
    gonna lie, I can see how some of the rioters
    let themselves be led astray. Often when
    you find yourself in an echo chamber, up is
    down, right is left, external references are
    never allowed in to counter bias. Some are
    gonna agree, some will not and attack or
    run swiftly away from any idea centered
    around mutual responsibility, true centrism
    and real work from both sides. No need to
    desert you’re ideals or abandon your side,
    you only need to open the door to truth.

    What majority are you talking about and what fringe?

    I don’t understand what you are trying to say?

    Are you saying votes for impeachment were led by the fringe?

    What is the truth that isn’t being discussed. I am genuinely curious.

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    @espiegel123 said:

    @king_picadillo said:
    Never did I think, in this great country, I was
    gonna see a day that the majority would
    give way to the fringe. Honestly, if anything,
    you would have thought that truth wasn’t
    up for discussion. Facts are facts and clearly
    never open to alternatives. Now I’m not
    gonna lie, I can see how some of the rioters
    let themselves be led astray. Often when
    you find yourself in an echo chamber, up is
    down, right is left, external references are
    never allowed in to counter bias. Some are
    gonna agree, some will not and attack or
    run swiftly away from any idea centered
    around mutual responsibility, true centrism
    and real work from both sides. No need to
    desert you’re ideals or abandon your side,
    you only need to open the door to truth.

    What majority are you talking about and what fringe?

    I don’t understand what you are trying to say?

    Are you saying votes for impeachment were led by the fringe?

    What is the truth that isn’t being discussed. I am genuinely curious.

    Edit Never mind - I thought you were asking me

  • @Max23 said:

    No surprises there

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  • @Max23 said:

    @michael_m said:

    @Max23 said:

    No surprises there

    all the yes man didnt surprise you?
    10 people of the republicans said impeach him.
    the rest said there is no need for that.
    the president can do as he pleases and is above the law because we back him up.

    seems to be a nice party, that Republican Party, huh?
    cheers

    I can't ralph as much as I would like too
    cheers

    Not really. I thought most Republicans would either side with him or make excuses for him.

    I’d imagine it will be similar in the Senate and it will fall short of enough votes to find him guilty.

  • @michael_m said:

    @Max23 said:

    No surprises there

    Donald Trump: 50% of the Presidential impeachments in US history.

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  • @espiegel123 @michael_m Read the first word of each line down the left side.

  • @king_picadillo said:
    @espiegel123 @michael_m Read the first word of each line down the left side.

    so, it's a rickroll and the stuff about the majority being taken over by the fringe can be ignored?

  • @espiegel123 said:

    @king_picadillo said:
    @espiegel123 @michael_m Read the first word of each line down the left side.

    so, it's a rickroll and the stuff about the majority being taken over by the fringe can be ignored?

    Just to make sure we keep up the grad-school seminar vibe, can we consider this for a future dissertation?

    "Shitposting, White Supremacy, and the Culture of Grievance: The Rise and Fall of Trumpism"

  • @espiegel123 @michael_m Yessir, trying to add a little levity although I do believe the fringes have been handed the podium and the biggest bullhorn as of late. My wife seems to think that cooler heads will prevail and I’m a bit more cynical, but somehow still hopeful. Our next song deals with the simulation and how lazy the writers/coders have gotten. Our way of trying to make sense of all of this.

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  • @JeffChasteen said:

    @michael_m said:

    @Max23 said:

    No surprises there

    Donald Trump: 50% of the Presidential impeachments in US history.

    This is the actual thing. 2 out 4 total ever impeachments.

    “We have the most impeachments ever. And they’re beautiful impeachments. Believe me.
    Ask anyone. I know impeachments. Some say I’m an expert. And we have the MOST EVER.“ - him right now.

  • @king_picadillo said:
    @espiegel123 @michael_m Read the first word of each line down the left side.

    You have won the Internet! I like levity in tough situations as well.

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