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  • @jonmoore said ‘ Falcon sounds alive ’

    Another VA that dos this for me is Reveal Sound’s Spire. Looks gorgeous, too.

  • @jonmoore said:

    @ahallam said:

    @enkaytee said:
    Venus Theory on YouTube is a big Falcon fan and regularly features the synth on his channel with demos and tutorials... https://www.youtube.com/c/VenusTheory

    I’d like to go in on Falcon, but the reality is that I could probably get all the sounds I want out of the synths I’m not using…

    The cool thing about Falcon is that once things click, you won't be able to stop yourself from loading it up, to explore and create outside of actual project work. Much as there's a lot of menu diving the results are immediate and I've never encountered a synthesizer where it's so easy to create complex modulations all the while keeping a lid on that complexity via the Tree view.

    The aspect of Falcon that a lot of reviewers miss, is that Falcon does raw stripped back synthesis just as well as all the 'pad machine' stuff. And a lot of what makes this possible is that the onboard FX aren't just good by workstation/hybrid synth standards, they're amongst the best available in each category as standalone plugins.

    One of the Expansions for Falcon is called Analog Motion, and it contains some of the best John Carpenter, Moroder, Vangelis, Vince Clarke, classic italo sound design I've come across. The patches are rich and expressive but they're also sounds that cut through a mix with precision. Much as recent Artutria software synths are getting better and U-he have delivered so much with their various VA's (to name two of the companies excelling at VA's), Falcon sounds alive in a manner that 'Diva & co' can't quite deliver.

    A few years back I had a fire at my studio and I lost a hell of a lot of irreplaceable classic hardware. I'd stupidly not updated my insurance properly to cover everything and I was left with some hard choices regarding my replacement setup. Getting Falcon and UVI Vintage Vault 3 gave me the confidence to not attempt to replace the irreplaceable using an insufficient insurance payout and I now have a setup with three networked workstations (2 PC/Linux, 1 Mac) at the core of my setup.

    I still have hardware, but its reason for being a part of the setup is more because of its tactile UX, not a perceived aural superiority. In terms of my software synthesis options, I feel confident in Falcons ability to create any sound my classic hardware was capable of. It gets used more often than some of my other software options not just because of how realistic it sounds, it can also be incredibly light on CPU resources in relative terms. You can of course build patches that burn 50%+ of a single processer core with ease but those classic 70's/80s timbres that I love so much can be achieved with minimal resources and they sound just as alive as the hardware they're emulating.

    Thanks for this, very interesting. I’ll put Falcon in the budget for sometime next year. I recently picked up the Tonal Balance bundle, but the USD to CAD exchange rate hurt a bit.

    I’m passing on the IK group buy for the same reason.

  • @ervin said:
    Hmmm. I can't seem to find a demo or trial version* on UVI's site. Seriously - for a synth costing this much? Please tell me there is one and I'm just lame not finding it - I so hope to be wrong. :)

    (* I read about the workaround by getting a demo of Pro Tools or a few samples within the UVI Workstation but neither are a proper Falcon trial imho.)

    The Pro Tools demo route does give you the full synth/sampler functionality but maybe you don't get the full library in the demo version. You should still be able to check things out sufficiently without the library.

    I agree it's crazy that UVI doesn't offer a demo directly. As I understand things, they're ultra-paranoid ref pirating, that's why every library has iLok security, not just Falcon itself.

  • @klownshed said:
    @jonmoore Please stop. You're getting me looking at Falcon when I really can't justify the expense or even more importantly, the time!

    Between Logic, Reason and IK I have much more content than I have time to explore already, but man. I have a bad case of FOMO and GAS at the moment and fear more acronyms are on the way. :lol:

    Apologies. :)

    There will be plenty more opportunities to get Falcon at 30% off, with Black Friday looking the next likely occasion. You most likely won't get the two free expansions ($80 value) but the $100 voucher to spend on Soundware is a permanent promotion, even when Falcon itself isn't offered at a promo discount.

  • @jonmoore said:

    Apologies. :)

    that's why every library has iLok security

    Aahhh. Thanks for that. FOMO gone. :-)

    I know iLok is great for some, but for me personally it's currently a deal breaker. I won't stand in anybody's way, just (more than) once bitten twice shy. I can see where it can work for pros with USBs though :-)

    Just not for me.

  • @klownshed said:

    @jonmoore said:

    Apologies. :)

    that's why every library has iLok security

    Aahhh. Thanks for that. FOMO gone. :-)

    I know iLok is great for some, but for me personally it's currently a deal breaker. I won't stand in anybody's way, just (more than) once bitten twice shy. I can see where it can work for pros with USBs though :-)

    Just not for me.

    It's software iLok, not USB though. I'd never touch anything with a hardware lock. Do they still do these?

  • @cabo said:
    bought it too you naughty guys ;)

    took LoFi and the vocal one as the expansions, buying at AudioDeluxe brought the € expense down quite a bit and there still is the 100 € voucher in my account waiting for BF (and some additional bonus bucks at AD), good one

    Welcome to the club! Whilst it's too late for me now, can I ask out of interest how AudioDeluxe made it any cheaper? Seems to be the same price on the site?

  • edited October 2021

    it's just the exchange rate from $ to €, amount is the same but when you buy it in $ it gets less in €, so it was 217,40 € for me in the end instead of 244 .. and $19.52 'DeluxeBucks' in my AD account that I can use with my next purchase

    and I used PayPal installment (without interest here atm) which made it 9,06 € per month for 24 months, seemed easily doable and great value

    .. and I like it so far :-)

  • @cabo said:
    it's just the exchange rate from $ to €, amount is the same but when you buy it in $ it gets less in €, so it was 217,40 € for me in the end instead of 244 .. and $19.52 'DeluxeBucks' in my AD account that I can use with my next purchase

    and I used PayPal installment (without interest here atm) which made it 9,06 € per month for 24 momths, seemed easily doable and great value

    .. and I like it so far :-)

    Gotcha! Nice work Cabo. On another note (maybe I can peter @jonmoore again on this) - are there any freely available Falcon banks/patches? I had a quick search but not much arose.

  • edited October 2021

    I note that the IK counter has notched another 1000 yet no new download slot. I thought the missing 24000 mark on the promo page was a typo but perhaps it's real? Wierd.

    after inserting coffee into my person and applying the ancient art of basic math I see if they did include it, it'd be 25 free products (plus the bought one). So why not just go to 24000?

  • @Cambler said:
    I note that the IK counter has notched another 1000 yet no new download slot. I thought the missing 24000 mark on the promo page was a typo but perhaps it's real? Wierd.

    after inserting coffee into my person and applying the ancient art of basic math I see if they did include it, it'd be 25 free products (plus the bought one). So why not just go to 24000?

    I noticed the last level needed 2000 people instead of just 1000. Maybe some surprise bonus at the end?

  • @Sawiton said:

    @Cambler said:
    I note that the IK counter has notched another 1000 yet no new download slot. I thought the missing 24000 mark on the promo page was a typo but perhaps it's real? Wierd.

    after inserting coffee into my person and applying the ancient art of basic math I see if they did include it, it'd be 25 free products (plus the bought one). So why not just go to 24000?

    I noticed the last level needed 2000 people instead of just 1000. Maybe some surprise bonus at the end?

    They’re just draaaaggggiiiing it out. Very clever way to dominate the forums for a couple of months!

  • It's a 25th anniversary sale so they're just doubling down on the number 25 : 25 for the price of one when they reach 25,000 participants. When some noticed the numbers didn't work out with a new freebie every 1000 early on in the sale, IK's Peter said that at some point the tier(s) would increase so that it would indeed end up at 25 for the price of one when they reach 25,000. Nothing to see here.

  • @jonmoore said:

    I agree it's crazy that UVI doesn't offer a demo directly. As I understand things, they're ultra-paranoid ref pirating, that's why every library has iLok security, not just Falcon itself.

    How nice! So basically, "we expect you to trust us that the expensive software will be great on your system, but we don't trust you not to steal it". A great way to treat your customer. 👍

    Thank you for the explanation, Jon.

  • iLok isn't a dealbreaker for me, but I currently have so much stuff to explore, I told myself I'm not going to buy anything else until I know exactly what purpose the VST is going to have in my setup. Falcon does look amazing and I already have bunch of piano VSTs that would work with that. But for now I don't see how this would add anything to my setup.

  • @klownshed said:

    @jonmoore said:

    Apologies. :)

    that's why every library has iLok security

    Aahhh. Thanks for that. FOMO gone. :-)

    I know iLok is great for some, but for me personally it's currently a deal breaker. I won't stand in anybody's way, just (more than) once bitten twice shy. I can see where it can work for pros with USBs though :-)

    Just not for me.

    To clarify, you can activate 3 pieces of hardware or iLoks. I still use hardware iLoks as I've been using them for so long and I've never had a problem. The activation is good for 3 computers without iLok if that's your preference. And when it comes to a time when you need to purchase a new workstation they will close the license on your old hardware to move your license to the new hardware.

  • @Cambler said:
    Can any Falcon users comment on UVI update policy? I’m excited and keen after reading some commments here and watching some YouTube demos however it’s a fair chunk of change for me so not keen on having to pay another huge chunk for version upgrades.

    Never had an issue and I've been with them for quite some time. I am also as tight as a duck's arse so I would have had an issue if there was one to have.

  • @ashh said:

    @Cambler said:
    Can any Falcon users comment on UVI update policy? I’m excited and keen after reading some commments here and watching some YouTube demos however it’s a fair chunk of change for me so not keen on having to pay another huge chunk for version upgrades.

    Never had an issue and I've been with them for quite some time. I am also as tight as a duck's arse so I would have had an issue if there was one to have.

    You and me both. All feature updates have been free and I can’t ever see UVI introducing one.

    The best thing one can say about UVI with regard to Falcon is that each major feature update cycle (which happen on a regular basis) introduces significant new functionality, which many other vendors would classify as a payable upgrade. UVI seem to recognise that there’s a high cost of entry to start with, plus Falcon is a gateway drug to UVI Soundware.

    You can playback UVI Soundware via their free UVI Workstation, but Falcon allows one to dig deep into the Soundware presets and resynthesize to your heart's desire. This is what sets Falcon apart from Kontakt. And by a mighty wide margin too.

  • I posted the Falcon Manual earlier in the thread but's it's worth reposting it again.

    https://s3.amazonaws.com/uvi/UVIFC/falcon_manual.pdf

    Be sure to check out the Change Log at the start of the manual to get a sense of UVI's commitment to Falcon, and all without payable upgrade fees.

    I far prefer a company that operates in this manner to those that employ a death by a thousand cut's strategy with regard to upgrade and subscription fees.

  • I have had major issues with iLok hence why it's a dealbreaker for me. I'm not suggesting it should be a dealbreaker for anybody else.

    My issues were kernel panics. The last one almost took down my entire drive on my MacBook Pro. It would only boot into recovery mode and Disk Utility couldn't recover the drive. Luckily, before doing a full restore I tried booting into into safe mode, which worked! Once in, I deleted the only .KEXT on my system, iLok/PACE, restarted and everything worked fine again and has done ever since. No more kernel panics ever.

    I don't install any KEXTs, not just iLok. I think they're frowned upon by Apple now too IIRC.

  • If you’re buying into the IK deal for another tier, using the code GROOVE3IKM should get you 15% off gear credits.

    I’m not sure if you can combine that with jam points, with which you can pay up to 30% of the cost, might be worth a go.

  • edited October 2021

    50% off Arturia V collection 8 runs out on 24/10.

    https://www.pluginboutique.com/product/1-Instruments/58-Inst-Bundle/7143-V-Collection-8

    Not sure if it’s been mentioned but probably worth a bump anyway.

  • edited October 2021

    Duplicate post

  • @jonmoore said:
    I posted the Falcon Manual earlier in the thread but's it's worth reposting it again.

    https://s3.amazonaws.com/uvi/UVIFC/falcon_manual.pdf

    Be sure to check out the Change Log at the start of the manual to get a sense of UVI's commitment to Falcon, and all without payable upgrade fees.

    I far prefer a company that operates in this manner to those that employ a death by a thousand cut's strategy with regard to upgrade and subscription fees.

    Is this UVI's official policy that future major updates to falcon will be free?

  • @piccolo said:

    @jonmoore said:
    I posted the Falcon Manual earlier in the thread but's it's worth reposting it again.

    https://s3.amazonaws.com/uvi/UVIFC/falcon_manual.pdf

    Be sure to check out the Change Log at the start of the manual to get a sense of UVI's commitment to Falcon, and all without payable upgrade fees.

    I far prefer a company that operates in this manner to those that employ a death by a thousand cut's strategy with regard to upgrade and subscription fees.

    Is this UVI's official policy that future major updates to falcon will be free?

    Send them an email and then let us know.

  • @ashh said:

    @piccolo said:

    @jonmoore said:
    I posted the Falcon Manual earlier in the thread but's it's worth reposting it again.

    https://s3.amazonaws.com/uvi/UVIFC/falcon_manual.pdf

    Be sure to check out the Change Log at the start of the manual to get a sense of UVI's commitment to Falcon, and all without payable upgrade fees.

    I far prefer a company that operates in this manner to those that employ a death by a thousand cut's strategy with regard to upgrade and subscription fees.

    Is this UVI's official policy that future major updates to falcon will be free?

    Send them an email and then let us know.

    :)

    I doubt it's an official policy but UVI released multiple major upgrades to Falcon without an upgrade fee, so we can only go by historic behaviour.

  • I’m sticking with MSoundFactory as my ‘big’ synth for now. It doesn’t compare to Falcon in terms of libraries but I bought in on the beta pricing and it is improving very rapidly. It’s good enough to save me spending $100s on flagship synths.

  • @gusgranite said:
    I’m sticking with MSoundFactory as my ‘big’ synth for now. It doesn’t compare to Falcon in terms of libraries but I bought in on the beta pricing and it is improving very rapidly. It’s good enough to save me spending $100s on flagship synths.

    Some MeldaProductions stuff leaves me cold whilst others impress. I see MSoundFactory is on offer right now so, time to check out the demo me thinks.

  • @klownshed said:
    If you’re buying into the IK deal for another tier, using the code GROOVE3IKM should get you 15% off gear credits.

    I’m not sure if you can combine that with jam points, with which you can pay up to 30% of the cost, might be worth a go.

    Unless there is some of that weird IK voodoo I don’t know about, it doesn’t seem to work to use Jam Points and the discount code together.

  • @SkillipEvolver said:
    Hey all, thought I'd drop in quick but just a quick q here..

    What's the consensus regards hunting through samples/hinting through, to find the right one you want?

    Is there a decent browser/preview app available?

    On desktop sononym is pretty badass.

    https://www.sononym.net/

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