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What’s the best DAW for making ambient music

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  • @DukeWonder said:

    @Telstar5 said:
    @israelite ,
    @DukeWonder
    I was always the impression that NS2 afforded the best auv3 hosting experience .. Maybe I need to look deeper into Cubasis 3, I dunno

    CB3 is fantastic with AUs. Full automation capabilities, can use the AU and on-screen keyboard at the same time, and they scale correctly more consistently than any of the others I’ve tried.

    Try GB, there it works without any problems. CB3 has lots of problems.

  • @DukeWonder said:

    @Telstar5 said:
    @israelite ,
    @DukeWonder
    I was always the impression that NS2 afforded the best auv3 hosting experience .. Maybe I need to look deeper into Cubasis 3, I dunno

    CB3 is fantastic with AUs. Full automation capabilities, can use the AU and on-screen keyboard at the same time, and they scale correctly more consistently than any of the others I’ve tried.

    You are right about CB3 capabilities for automation.
    For me the quickness of working / tweaking certain parameters (FX settings/synth knobs etc) in NS2 makes it an unbeatable choice. Is a bit faster to work with than CB3 on smaller screens.
    But at this point, I believe a well configured AUM on a 12" screen would work best with it's floating windows.

    And in DAWs - If there would be possibility to create button shortcuts to quick open certain plugin/AUv3 windows, this would make them so much better for live jamming.

  • @neinneinnein said:

    @DukeWonder said:

    @Telstar5 said:
    @israelite ,
    @DukeWonder
    I was always the impression that NS2 afforded the best auv3 hosting experience .. Maybe I need to look deeper into Cubasis 3, I dunno

    CB3 is fantastic with AUs. Full automation capabilities, can use the AU and on-screen keyboard at the same time, and they scale correctly more consistently than any of the others I’ve tried.

    Try GB, there it works without any problems. CB3 has lots of problems.

    What problems does CB3 have nowadays? People like to say CB3 has a lot of issues, but it’s currently one of the most stable DAWs. My guess is that you have read what others said back when it first came out and haven’t followed its progress.

    Also GB has performance issues with some AUs. I also don’t think it has AU automation which comes in handy with ambient music.

  • @israelite said:

    @DukeWonder said:

    @Telstar5 said:
    @israelite ,
    @DukeWonder
    I was always the impression that NS2 afforded the best auv3 hosting experience .. Maybe I need to look deeper into Cubasis 3, I dunno

    CB3 is fantastic with AUs. Full automation capabilities, can use the AU and on-screen keyboard at the same time, and they scale correctly more consistently than any of the others I’ve tried.

    You are right about CB3 capabilities for automation.
    For me the quickness of working / tweaking certain parameters (FX settings/synth knobs etc) in NS2 makes it an unbeatable choice. Is a bit faster to work with than CB3 on smaller screens.
    But at this point, I believe a well configured AUM on a 12" screen would work best with it's floating windows.

    And in DAWs - If there would be possibility to create button shortcuts to quick open certain plugin/AUv3 windows, this would make them so much better for live jamming.

    And see, I find NS2 a bit clunkier to work with because so much is buried in menus and long presses. I also have had issues with some of my more frequently used AUs scaling properly.

  • edited January 2021

    @DukeWonder said:

    @neinneinnein said:

    @DukeWonder said:

    @Telstar5 said:
    @israelite ,
    @DukeWonder
    I was always the impression that NS2 afforded the best auv3 hosting experience .. Maybe I need to look deeper into Cubasis 3, I dunno

    CB3 is fantastic with AUs. Full automation capabilities, can use the AU and on-screen keyboard at the same time, and they scale correctly more consistently than any of the others I’ve tried.

    Try GB, there it works without any problems. CB3 has lots of problems.

    What problems does CB3 have nowadays? People like to say CB3 has a lot of issues, but it’s currently one of the most stable DAWs. My guess is that you have read what others said back when it first came out and haven’t followed its progress.

    Also GB has performance issues with some AUs. I also don’t think it has AU automation which comes in handy with ambient music.

    The only one problem I still have with Cubasis 3 (aside from features I still want, wah wah) is how when I move audio events (clips) on the timeline that the timeline does not autoscroll nicely when you reach the edge of the screen like it does in Cubasis 2.

  • edited January 2021

    @DukeWonder said:

    @Telstar5 said:
    @israelite ,
    @DukeWonder
    I was always the impression that NS2 afforded the best auv3 hosting experience .. Maybe I need to look deeper into Cubasis 3, I dunno

    CB3 is fantastic with AUs. Full automation capabilities, can use the AU and on-screen keyboard at the same time, and they scale correctly more consistently than any of the others I’ve tried.

    @DukeWonder : Have you tried NS2?

  • @Telstar5 said:

    @DukeWonder said:

    @Telstar5 said:
    @israelite ,
    @DukeWonder
    I was always the impression that NS2 afforded the best auv3 hosting experience .. Maybe I need to look deeper into Cubasis 3, I dunno

    CB3 is fantastic with AUs. Full automation capabilities, can use the AU and on-screen keyboard at the same time, and they scale correctly more consistently than any of the others I’ve tried.

    @DukeWonder : Have you tried NS2?

    I have. A couple of the AU’s I’ve tried don’t scale well. Some of my most frequently used controls are buried in menus. Zooming, scrolling, and moving events around in the piano roll feels a bit clunky. You can’t record input from AUs like Ruismaker Noir or EG Pulse. No AU effect automation. No audio tracks.

    Granted, some of these may be to using it on an iPhone rather than an iPad. But if an app is Universal, that shouldn’t really be an issue.

  • @AudioGus said:

    @DukeWonder said:

    @neinneinnein said:

    @DukeWonder said:

    @Telstar5 said:
    @israelite ,
    @DukeWonder
    I was always the impression that NS2 afforded the best auv3 hosting experience .. Maybe I need to look deeper into Cubasis 3, I dunno

    CB3 is fantastic with AUs. Full automation capabilities, can use the AU and on-screen keyboard at the same time, and they scale correctly more consistently than any of the others I’ve tried.

    Try GB, there it works without any problems. CB3 has lots of problems.

    What problems does CB3 have nowadays? People like to say CB3 has a lot of issues, but it’s currently one of the most stable DAWs. My guess is that you have read what others said back when it first came out and haven’t followed its progress.

    Also GB has performance issues with some AUs. I also don’t think it has AU automation which comes in handy with ambient music.

    The only one problem I still have with Cubasis 3 (aside from features I still want, wah wah) is how when I move audio events (clips) on the timeline that the timeline does not autoscroll nicely when you reach the edge of the screen like it does in Cubasis 2.

    I tend to zoom in and out to drag things so I haven’t run into this, but I can see where it would be annoying. It’s annoying to me in NS2 because you can easily scroll way too far way too fast.

  • @Telstar5 NanoStudio2's biggest drawback is that it just doesn't handle actual audio/.wavs very fluidly - Waited years for ver2 to come out, instabuy, and now I don't even have it on my iPad.

    @israelite said:
    And in DAWs - If there would be possibility to create button shortcuts to quick open certain plugin/AUv3 windows, this would make them so much better for live jamming.

    There's this program called Audiobus that I might suggest you check out o:) For me, live performance is the thing that AB still excels at. Due to the universal screen overlays, MIDI Management and remote app (to say nothing of having access to the widest # of music apps) it doesn't interrupt my workflow. Of course depending on your gear, you could also redirect AB into AUM, get the UI, and Bob's your uncle...

    Per original thread question - In saying "Ambient" I think there is a line between using pre-recorded material vs using generative\stochastic-synths and sound sources. In terms of a DAW do you want to be able to record multiple actions and automation to edit later or just the sound stems individually?

  • @DukeWonder :Thanks for your informative answer. I always thought NS2 was tops as for as auv3 goes because of its ability to store presets but I guess that is no the case . I need to learn more...

  • @DukeWonder said:

    @AudioGus said:

    @DukeWonder said:

    @neinneinnein said:

    @DukeWonder said:

    @Telstar5 said:
    @israelite ,
    @DukeWonder
    I was always the impression that NS2 afforded the best auv3 hosting experience .. Maybe I need to look deeper into Cubasis 3, I dunno

    CB3 is fantastic with AUs. Full automation capabilities, can use the AU and on-screen keyboard at the same time, and they scale correctly more consistently than any of the others I’ve tried.

    Try GB, there it works without any problems. CB3 has lots of problems.

    What problems does CB3 have nowadays? People like to say CB3 has a lot of issues, but it’s currently one of the most stable DAWs. My guess is that you have read what others said back when it first came out and haven’t followed its progress.

    Also GB has performance issues with some AUs. I also don’t think it has AU automation which comes in handy with ambient music.

    The only one problem I still have with Cubasis 3 (aside from features I still want, wah wah) is how when I move audio events (clips) on the timeline that the timeline does not autoscroll nicely when you reach the edge of the screen like it does in Cubasis 2.

    I tend to zoom in and out to drag things so I haven’t run into this, but I can see where it would be annoying. It’s annoying to me in NS2 because you can easily scroll way too far way too fast.

    Interesting, what device are you on? I find NS2 perfect for this.

  • @israelite said:

    @sevenape said:
    For me, It has to be Koala sampler. I make ambient music using it to set off unsynchronized loops. If I want to add synths or something I usually to it in AUM now. Aum is really good too! But if I could only have one app at all, I'd have Koala.

    here's my album I made with just Koala, Alteza, k7d and Tap delay.

    Good vibes. You just sold me koala sampler.
    How do you generated your loops? (what software is involved). Sounds very organic. Thanks for the info.

    Thank you!!! The loops are all made in koala from samples of old 90's jungle records. (mainly from youtube) I slowed them down resampled them and generally mangled them all!!

  • edited January 2021

    @Telstar5 said:
    @DukeWonder :Thanks for your informative answer. I always thought NS2 was tops as for as auv3 goes because of its ability to store presets but I guess that is no the case . I need to learn more...

    Actually it is the best AUv3 host. :blush:
    But everyone has an opinion.. Just try it on your own! This would be my recommendation.

    Before getting into iOS music making I was fascinated by watching numerous AUM jams on YouTube. All this integration, all those possibilities! But after trying the app, I could not work with it effectively. So, I started to search and test many other apps (and quite quickly returning most of them). At the end I have happily settled for Nanostudio 2 and Cubasis.
    Have fun!

  • @sevenape said:
    For me, It has to be Koala sampler. I make ambient music using it to set off unsynchronized loops. If I want to add synths or something I usually to it in AUM now. Aum is really good too! But if I could only have one app at all, I'd have Koala.

    here's my album I made with just Koala, Alteza, k7d and Tap delay.

    Cool idea with slowing down jungle tracks!
    And regarding the koala, not sure if you know about it.
    It looks like almost anything can be sampled into it very easily through Audioshare's recording function. You just load sound generating app into the player (IAAs work great. I am finally able to use previously unused apps!) and then Koala into a FX slot.
    Simple. A lot simpler than using AUM or audiobus for the same type of routing.

  • @israelite said:
    It looks like almost anything can be sampled into it very easily through Audioshare's recording function. You just load sound generating app into the player (IAAs work great. I am finally able to use previously unused apps!) and then Koala into a FX slot.

    Can you explain exactly how this works please? I just loaded Addstation into Audioshare, then, as you explained, Koala into an fx slot...but I can't figure out how I can record into Koala (?) To record, you need to hold down one of the pads right? So how do I do that and simultaneously play something in Addstation? Incidentally, when I play some keys in Addstation the monitor level indicates that something is happening but there's no audible sound...Apologies if this is a dumb question!

  • The one you are most comfortable with or know the most about (or are interested in learning).

    Best is subjective. I like BM3 personally.

    But I know far more about that DAW than any other I have on iOS so my comfort level is high.

  • @Kashi said:
    @israelite said:
    It looks like almost anything can be sampled into it very easily through Audioshare's recording function. You just load sound generating app into the player (IAAs work great. I am finally able to use previously unused apps!) and then Koala into a FX slot.

    Can you explain exactly how this works please? I just loaded Addstation into Audioshare, then, as you explained, Koala into an fx slot...but I can't figure out how I can record into Koala (?) To record, you need to hold down one of the pads right? So how do I do that and simultaneously play something in Addstation? Incidentally, when I play some keys in Addstation the monitor level indicates that something is happening but there's no audible sound...Apologies if this is a dumb question!

    Don’t understand either. Can you show how todo it in a short video?

  • edited February 2021

    @Kashi said:
    @israelite said:
    It looks like almost anything can be sampled into it very easily through Audioshare's recording function. You just load sound generating app into the player (IAAs work great. I am finally able to use previously unused apps!) and then Koala into a FX slot.

    Can you explain exactly how this works please? I just loaded Addstation into Audioshare, then, as you explained, Koala into an fx slot...but I can't figure out how I can record into Koala (?) To record, you need to hold down one of the pads right? So how do I do that and simultaneously play something in Addstation? Incidentally, when I play some keys in Addstation the monitor level indicates that something is happening but there's no audible sound...Apologies if this is a dumb question!

    Sure. Here are some more details.

    in Audioshare's Recorder first load an IAA or AUv3 instrument and Koala Sampler into FX slot.

    It is also useful (although not needed) to have Koala's window in split screen mode open (you do it by opening a full screen app first and then dragging in Koala's icon from the dock, on top of the first app).

    Sound source in Koala should say IAA. If not, press on it and select Record from IAA. Additionally press on the headphone button to hear the sound generated by IAA. Now you are ready to record.
    Press on a pad in Koala and play some music. Or disable Hold on record in Koala's options first, if you prefer to turn the pad on/off for recording.

  • It’s not the DAW....it’s the Audio units...like Aparillo for example....

  • @israelite said Sure. Here are some more details.

    Great! Thanks. I got it sorted, after a while. Took me ages to work out the split screen thing. It's not ideal though, because if I want to record from many different synths, I have to drag those synths into my dock, which ultimately isn't where I want them to be. It's gonna get very busy , very soon. I guess that's the trade-off! Thanks again @israelite - that's opened up a new world of sampling possibilities :)

  • @DukeWonder said:
    Depends how you’re going about it. If you’re doing something free-form without standard structure, you can get by with AUM just fine.

    If you want to start sequencing, I highly recommend Cubasis 3. It’s Universal. It has audio tracks, MIDI, AU automation, and plenty of IAPs to help mix and master. It also provides what I consider to be the best experience using AUv3s in an iOS DAW. AUs scale properly for the most part, something most others have an issue with more frequently in my experience. You can also use the on-screen keyboard and have the AU on the screen at the same time, which is missing from some others.

    Until recently I would have agreed with you, but Cubasis 3 is almost unusable for me right now. It's not just that they nerfed up some features that I really loved (such as overlaid clips being fully visible), but the thing crashes randomly. Also, it suffers from massive DSP spikes, which don't seem to relate to activity.

    Every "update" appears to make things worse.

  • @Kashi said:
    @israelite said Sure. Here are some more details.

    Great! Thanks. I got it sorted, after a while. Took me ages to work out the split screen thing. It's not ideal though, because if I want to record from many different synths, I have to drag those synths into my dock, which ultimately isn't where I want them to be. It's gonna get very busy , very soon. I guess that's the trade-off! Thanks again @israelite - that's opened up a new world of sampling possibilities :)

    You are welcome @Kashi.
    But actually you don't need to have apps other than Koala on the dock. I open them by clicking their icon in Audioshare's Recorder, or in a usual fashion if the first method does not work for some reason.

    Additional Tip: when Koala window is on top of other app, it's can be swiped off out of the screen (and still running and recording). In case you want to use full keyboard of the synth.
    To restore Koala's window just swipe in from the edge of the screen where Koala was previously hidden.

    Gestures in iOS are a bit tricky, but once you have them sorted out, things become clear.
    Happy sampling!

  • @israelite said "But actually you don't need to have apps other than Koala on the dock"

    That makes more sense - thanks!

    @israelite said "Additional Tip: when Koala window is on top of other app, it's can be swiped off out of the screen (and still running and recording). In case you want to use full keyboard of the synth."

    Great - that's really helpful. All the best

  • @sevenape said:
    For me, It has to be Koala sampler. I make ambient music using it to set off unsynchronized loops. If I want to add synths or something I usually to it in AUM now. Aum is really good too! But if I could only have one app at all, I'd have Koala.

    here's my album I made with just Koala, Alteza, k7d and Tap delay.

    Really enjoying this. Am I right in thinking that the more destroyed elements of the sound are from being resampled via Koala's FX, or is the tape delay doing some of that heavy lifting?

    Cheers!

  • @el_bo said:

    @sevenape said:
    For me, It has to be Koala sampler. I make ambient music using it to set off unsynchronized loops. If I want to add synths or something I usually to it in AUM now. Aum is really good too! But if I could only have one app at all, I'd have Koala.

    here's my album I made with just Koala, Alteza, k7d and Tap delay.

    Really enjoying this. Am I right in thinking that the more destroyed elements of the sound are from being resampled via Koala's FX, or is the tape delay doing some of that heavy lifting?

    Cheers!

    Thank you for taking the time to listen! So, some of the warble is from koala samplers “vibroflange” setting, then there’s a little bit of overdrive and feedback from k7d but yeah the effect is mostly tap delay, with the settings set to “bits of cassette tape found on the side of the road” ( I made that up) tap delay is my favorite tape emulation app, it has a very saturated sound and a realistic (to my ears) wobble!!

    Thanks again for listening!

  • @sevenape said:

    @el_bo said:

    @sevenape said:
    For me, It has to be Koala sampler. I make ambient music using it to set off unsynchronized loops. If I want to add synths or something I usually to it in AUM now. Aum is really good too! But if I could only have one app at all, I'd have Koala.

    here's my album I made with just Koala, Alteza, k7d and Tap delay.

    Really enjoying this. Am I right in thinking that the more destroyed elements of the sound are from being resampled via Koala's FX, or is the tape delay doing some of that heavy lifting?

    Cheers!

    Thank you for taking the time to listen! So, some of the warble is from koala samplers “vibroflange” setting, then there’s a little bit of overdrive and feedback from k7d but yeah the effect is mostly tap delay, with the settings set to “bits of cassette tape found on the side of the road” ( I made that up) tap delay is my favorite tape emulation app, it has a very saturated sound and a realistic (to my ears) wobble!!

    Thanks again for listening!

    Thanks!

    I've not actually finished listening. First gave a quick scan, but then listened to tracks 7, 1 & 2, in full. The track I was referring to was 'Carlssin', especially as it gets past the 8-minute-mark. Gets really 'messy' (In the best ways, of course), but still remains pretty clear, distinct and very listenable.

    I guess you're referring to VirSyn's 'Tape Delay'? I had my heart set on a combination of Tape Pro, Bit-Juggler, OtherDesertCities and rymdigare for this kind of destruction. I wonder if Tap Delay would add something to that list. Certainly sounds like it might, even just for the “bits of cassette tape found on the side of the road” preset ;) (I hope you saved that as one of the preset names ;)

    Will listen to the rest of the tracks over the weekend.

    Thanks, again :)

  • Now that Wotja is an AUv3 host, it's one of three apps that I'd recommend for Belin School/ambient output. The second would be Drambo, although Drambo doesn't excel at generative pattern generation (this is Wotja's raison detre). And the third choice would be miRack. It's a real pity that miRack can't be used as an AUv3 host (VCV Rack, the desktop product that miRack is based on, has a premium addon that allows VST's and AU's to be used as modules), but don't let that stop you from exploring the possibilities opened up by miRack's modular playground.

    If you own all of Wotja, Drambo and miRack you're in Berlin School, ambient heaven! Although, with the depth of each of these apps, be prepared for a greater learning curve than that in the majority of iOS sound generation tools. The easiest way to integrate the three is to use Wotcha as the main host and then Drambo and miRack as AUv3's. But the likes of AUM, ApeMatrix and Audiobus 3 can be used as part of the mix too, and that opens up even greater creative routing options.

    @impete Is one of Wotcha's main developers and he keeps an eye on the main Wotja threads here on the AB forum so any specific questions regarding Wotja are best fired in his direction.

  • @jonmoore said:
    @impete Is one of Wotja's main developers and he keeps an eye on the main Wotja threads here on the AB forum so any specific questions regarding Wotja are best fired in his direction.

    Thanks @jonmoore!

    The main Thread for Wotja 22 is here: https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/48256/wotja-22-generative-music-app-plug-in-host-free-pro-auv3-vst3/p14

    It has been a pretty busy thread for the past few weeks!

    Best wishes, Pete

  • @el_bo said:

    @sevenape said:

    @el_bo said:

    @sevenape said:
    For me, It has to be Koala sampler. I make ambient music using it to set off unsynchronized loops. If I want to add synths or something I usually to it in AUM now. Aum is really good too! But if I could only have one app at all, I'd have Koala.

    here's my album I made with just Koala, Alteza, k7d and Tap delay.

    Really enjoying this. Am I right in thinking that the more destroyed elements of the sound are from being resampled via Koala's FX, or is the tape delay doing some of that heavy lifting?

    Cheers!

    Thank you for taking the time to listen! So, some of the warble is from koala samplers “vibroflange” setting, then there’s a little bit of overdrive and feedback from k7d but yeah the effect is mostly tap delay, with the settings set to “bits of cassette tape found on the side of the road” ( I made that up) tap delay is my favorite tape emulation app, it has a very saturated sound and a realistic (to my ears) wobble!!

    Thanks again for listening!

    Thanks!

    I've not actually finished listening. First gave a quick scan, but then listened to tracks 7, 1 & 2, in full. The track I was referring to was 'Carlssin', especially as it gets past the 8-minute-mark. Gets really 'messy' (In the best ways, of course), but still remains pretty clear, distinct and very listenable.

    I guess you're referring to VirSyn's 'Tape Delay'? I had my heart set on a combination of Tape Pro, Bit-Juggler, OtherDesertCities and rymdigare for this kind of destruction. I wonder if Tap Delay would add something to that list. Certainly sounds like it might, even just for the “bits of cassette tape found on the side of the road” preset ;) (I hope you saved that as one of the preset names ;)

    Will listen to the rest of the tracks over the weekend.

    Thanks, again :)

    Ahhh! That's upping the saturation level manually on (yep Virsyn's) Tap delay. You can definitely do something similar Tape pro has a saturation control! Otherwise you could grab Chowtape for free which can really mangle a sound.

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