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Why is ambient super popular (for iOS Producers)?
I'm sorta curious about this one. It seems a lot of people are a fan of ambient sounds.
What draws you to express the sounds of the cosmos?
What pushes the creative juices to say " Let's make an ambient album?"
Or, let's use the best iOS app that is capable of changing the fabric of space and time to make an ambient album (obviously it's Koala Sampler 😂🤣😂)
Curious to hear your thoughts.
Edit: Added " for iOS producers " to the title.
Also changed the title from “the most popular” to “super popular”.
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It’s because writing a good song is really difficult if you’re not gifted in that way. And you don’t need vocals for ambient.
I wasn’t aware it was the most popular music style 🤷🏽♂️
This^^^
I want a peer reviewed study and hard data or it didn’t happen.
I don't hear a lot of ambient music when I get in my car and turn on the radio. The music stations that are not public radio stations tend to play pop music or classic rock, not ambient. I'm sure the people who listen to these commercial radio stations far outnumber the number of members of this forum.
I was turned on to ambient music by friends. Music by the usual suspects: Eno, Fripp, Fripp & Eno, Aphex Twin's "Selected Ambient Works II" album, etc. I found the works of Eliane Radigue, Harold Budd, etc. on my own later.
trap and edm are too hard to make, too much to think about with all the drums, melody, arrangement etc. Those are the only other genres that you can make on ios, so most stick with ambient.
Same... although it does seem over the past 2-3 years ambient music has had a bit of on uprising.
Technically, everything we hear is ambient music. 🤯
Jokes aside, I'm finding a lot more ambient music common in iOS producers than other styles of music. But great point. Updated the thread title to be more specific.
Easier to make.
Don’t have to worry about side chaining everything.
Mixing not too hard.
I question whether most iOS music producers do ambient music. It might be that a lot of people on AB Forum that post music are doing ambient -- but I don't think AB Forum Creations thread postings are representative of what people do with iOS.
It seems like a decent portion of this crowd tends to enjoy playing with music more than producing and selling music. Ambient is perfect for that. Very free flowing, no formalized structure. It is also excellent for a modular workflow which folks here seem to enjoy.
I question the premise. Go to the Gadget Cloud in Gadget 2. There’s a ton of music and it's all EDM, Trap and the like.
Audiobus forum is just a meeting place for misanthropic anoraks, hence the predominance of ambient 😄
This
@seonnthaproducer
This....drum machines and groove boxes seem to be popular purchases....which would indicate to me that there are way more genres than "ambient" out there that are potentially more popular than straight ambient styles, if we even know what "ambient" actually is...EDM, HipHop etc seem to get a lot of reference even more so than ambient.
I think you'd actually have to make a poll to qualify this statement.
Yeah, the other thing is that it is easy to pop out ambient generative jams. Making decent tracks in most other genres takes more time, generally, so that means that people can make a greater quantity of ambient tracks in the same time it would take to make a hip hop track or an indie track, for example.
It's just easier and still gets safe feed back here.
Music serves many purposes:
Number 5 probably inspired this gentle request for an explanation.
(Back to waiting for Atom and Loopy NG).
Meanwhile... Drambo! Good for 1-5.
a philosophical answer to your question, is that people are making more "ambient" to battle with the atrocity that was 2020??
Or perhaps after the EDM explosion and then the Trap shit that has been running the charts for the last couple years, artist are searching for a less structured and less aggressive form of electronic music.
Yeah, I do feel that ambient is having a moment, but it is certainly still far from mainstream I reckon
Popularity of ambient extends way beyond iOS. See modular.
Also, it's a phenomenon of the times. https://happymag.tv/ambient-music-place-in-the-age-of-overstimulation/
This was written in 2019 and it's re-enforced by the whole of last year.
@Philandering_Bastard : damn, you got me! Happy to be a non musician misanthropic anorak.
My love affair with all things ambient began over 35 years ago when I was putting Harold Budd’s making of The Pearl on the front cover of the electronic music making magazine I edited at the time.
I enjoy listening to many musical forms, but my own stumbling attempts to make, say, something in spirit of the urgent industrial pulse of D.A.F.back then fell far short of my hopes, and I drifted away from music making altogether.
I discovered the joys of the sub genre of Dark Ambient about the same time as I retired two years ago, artists like Kammerheit, Allseits, Atrium Carceri, Aun.... ( I like to think of it as chill out music for aging Goths
Or maybe, ‘My years of listening to ever increasing reverb trails’.)
More startlingly, I discovered that the range of incredible experimental noise making apps available on IOS for pocket money prices finally gave this no-talent tone deaf ex drummer a fighting chance of making something which at least was in the ball park of the musical form I genuinely like to listen to most often these days, as my Spotify playlist of my year recently confirmed.
So yeah. Call it music for anoraks, non musical no hopers, dabblers, not serious people, too easy to make, or not even music at all - but for me, Dark Ambient rules, ok?
P.S. : also, and non trivially, as a ‘vulnerable’ person ‘sheltering’ alone at home during these, er, interesting times, for over a year now, noodling about making my noises has given each day a purpose and focus I think my other hobbies would have been hard pushed to match for sanity saving fun. So, there’s that too...
I would like to know why there are more psytrance producers than fans.
I think the demographics for iOS musicians tend to be people in their mid-30s and older, that might explain a bit more of an ambient focus
😂😂😂👍
Finally I see a similarity between psytrance and old time music 🎹🎧 🙅🏼♂️🙆🏼♂️💁🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️🎻🪕
@Svetlovska misanthropic anoraks are the only people worth hanging out with, anyway 🤣
@tahiche : ‘Psytrance is overdoing it’
Also- you’re right about my guitar tuning.
I came to iOS from a metal/classical background but I now spend quite a bit of time just experimenting with sounds and playing with genres I had no interest in before. The immediacy of being able to try things out and get that quick aural satisfaction in this environment helps a lot, even if you are not intending on recording anything.
Look at how much fun kids have banging things together and hitting xylophones. I don’t think we ever lose that need to make noise!
Because iOS clock sync sucks!
I instinctively agree with your first point but on further reflection I feel that this is just too subjective and, what constitutes a song anyway.
I agree with the second point albeit how does that make iPad any different from a laptop. To answer my own question: probably the lack of kick ass daw on iOS. All of the current daws have an aura of a sketchbook, partly for lack of features but mostly because they seemed designed for a cursor and not touch as well as the screen size being ridiculously small for multi tracking.
The last point is also true. It is much easier to get results without inclusion of acoustic instruments. You need a lot more skill there.
@supadom
Undisputable truth. iOS daws are not fun. That’s why I got a dozen unfinished songs in Zenbeats. I’m stuck in the clip mode and dread having to go to the boring, hardly responsive linear arranger. Or using LK in AUM which is great and fun but that combo is missing a good audio solution.
Don’t you feel like sequences feel heavy when you drag them?. It happens in every daw!. It’s funny (sad really) that you wish you had a mouse to work with iOS daws. I always take Samplr as an example of what a good touch interface feels like.