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iPadOS updates
$ 1 million question that many will have proposed:
Apple Updates Slow Down Your Device?
I mean: unless you want to use an app that requires a more updated OS, should you update to the latest version (today ipados14) if the apps we use work great and the device too?
On my ipad 5th I left native ios 10.3 and it always ran fine with my favorite apps.
Today i have an ipad air 3 2019, and I think I will follow the same path, that is to leave native OS in this case ipados 13.6.1.
What do you think about it?
thanks for any replies
Comments
I keep all my devices up to date...
...and very seldom bump i to showstoppers, but that’s me.
Older iOS versions are ‘stuck’ when it comes to system level bugfixes and features.
Sure bugs come and go but it’s more likely to be fixed in a current (14.x) iOS version rather than previous versions (11.x, 12.x or 13.x).
If I was a developer I’d target the current iOS version as it’s a hassle to have ‘fixes’ for system bugs on older iOS versions that are fixed in a newer version.
Like pretty much any OS, some iOS updates make things slower and some make things faster. Apple is known to do updates that primarily focus on optimization and others that are focused on feature updates.
To try to answer the bigger question about staying updated, it depends on your device usage. If you only use your iPad for music production, then you might get away without updating. If you web surf or use your iPad for other online activity, then I'd say keep it updated. Apple's tendency is to do security updates only to the latest releases that a device can run. So, for example, the latest round of zero-day vulnerabilities that were patched in 14.4 would only be done for 14.4 on devices that could run 14.4 and older OS versions for devices that couldn't run 14.4. (Like the security updates that I recently got on my iPhone 6 that is locked at several versions ago).
If you want your device to stay secure, you have to keep it as updated as it can be. In some ways, this sucks -- in the same way that you can't roll back your iOS versions sucks. But, it's the reality of iDevices. They really are consumer electronics focused and not treated the same way that a device aimed at server deployments in a corporate setting would be treated.
Man, I wish everyone thought like you. I'm currently trying to figure out how to do some updates to my apps and still keep my deployment target at 11.3. It's a struggle! I'd really like to think that I could get away with forcing my requirements up to 14.
Rule of thumb is to wait for six months whenever a points update drops. This saves you from joining the mob of people baying for app fixes that follows such updates like night follows day.
To pick up a famous quote of a former US president: It’s the security, stupid.
Unfortunately some people keep their ‘thumb’ up their ahole for too long and start complaining about things that don’t work when the thing they complain about is already fixed if they’ve kept their device up-to-date 😂
Well, I’m this case you kind of screwed yourself a little. IOS 13.7 fixed a number of things for music apps. You missed that by not updating in time. Now you’re stuck with 13.6.1 until (if?) iOS 14 music app problems get straightened out.
My rule is to wait at least a couple of months before doing a major iOS update, but once it’s stable, do update. Once you get on a major update, keep it up to date, especially leading up to the next major version.
As a device nears the end of its useful life, watch major versions more and more carefully. The last thing you want to do is go one major release too far. I learned that when my iPad 2 went from being a perfectly useful device to a paper weight.
Being on the latest viable OS for a device ensures the longest life for it and the apps installed on it. Eventually developers drop OS versions support, or they may introduce problems for older OS”s as they focus on newer versions. For this reason, when a device does reach that last viable OS version, it’s time to consider it frozen for good, apps included. One should be very cautious about updating apps, and consider not updating those either.
I expect iOS 14 will someday be good enough to move to. I’m sure glad I haven’t yet though.
i bought ipad air 3 in november and it was giving me update for ios 14 and i didn't dare to update
Wise move. Even 13.6.1 is better than 14 so far I think.
I just wish we could choose what want to update like on windows. Im on 13.5 and to update to 14.3 is over 2.3 GB!
It doesn't actually make the System much bigger. Just replaces a lot of components. Remember, any change to a library or app means a full new copy (been a long time since we applied "patches" to a system). And a change to one class may require updating a lot of libraries. So it can quickly add up, particularly for a major version step.
Also, the system is so highly integrated that it'd be really difficult to segregate update components.
The “iOS updates slow down your device” isn’t a debate. It’s a fact. Apple has been forced to pay out a settlement several times now for just that. Now, are they doing it with ipads? Who knows. But I wouldn’t doubt it, seeing that they’ve been caught throttling iphones in the past.
I just give it a few days after any release then update. Never really noticed any slowdowns after an update - I think the only OS I have ever noticeably experienced that on is Windows.
Thanks for the info.
So do you mean even though the update is 2.3GB it will only update what is needed and disregard the rest? So if it only needs half that amount the update will be smaller?
FWIW, i don't think 13.6.1 is significantly different from 13.7. So, I think 13.6.1 is probably a good place to be. I am on 13.7 and my only unhappiness is that Audulus 4 (which is in beta) and a few other apps don't support IOS 13
Yeh, gotta go to 14 at some point, hopefully they will get the disappearing AU icons thing sorted out before 15 drops. That seems like the only remaining fundamental problem at this point. The rest seem to be app or host specific. I figure those will get sorted out eventually, and don't affect apps I use anyway.
I don't think so. I mean that it will replace many components of your existing System, which is 4 or 5 GB total. But the net result won't expand the system by too much, because it's mostly swapping an old library version for an updated version of the same stuff. Updates are not additions, they're merges.
For me this last iOS 14.4 update made no UI lag at all on IPad but made my iPhone very laggy😂😂😂 (iPhone 12 pro). Also big sur latest update made my MacBook Pro 16 slower (VCV rack crashed two times today...).
I really don’t know what to think. Hope someday soon they will focus also on performance side of their devices.
Ok that makes sense. Thank you.
I have a bunch of IAA’s Lots of Korg stuff and older Apps. Are they still working in the latest iOS update?
Well, this release has some critical exploits being fixed so it should be done just for that reason. I haven't had updates impact performance in years. Now beta releases on the other hand...
My oldest music apps are Music Studio and Epic Synth. Both still good in iPadOS 14.4 on iPad 6. No Korg apps though, but I think they've been updated relatively recently, so should be OK.
as I see, and as I imagined, there are different and even opposing opinions about my question at the beginning of the post.
I repeat my choice to stay with native ios on ipad 5th was the right one, at least with my favorite apps (see Gadget), of course as long as that native system was supported by the apps themselves.
after about 3/4 years I decided to directly update the device instead of running after the various versions of ios and now ipadOS; I realize that my choice may be somewhat questionable.
sorry for my inaccurate english 😅
You always have the choice to stay with the older version of apps that no longer support your operating system version. There's nothing lost other than new features. The only risk is if the developer releases a version that says it's compatible with your OS version but something is broken in it. I'm careful about updating apps on a device once I've "frozen" it at a certain OS version.
Nothing wrong with that as long as you're willing to put up with the inevitable few months of odd broken things that seem to happen with every major iOS version update. The minor version updates don't tend to break anything and usually fix things or are important for security reasons.
I think I’m sure that updates will eat More juices and it’s become bulky. So I’m still staying with iOS 13 as not all synth apps developers released patch for iOS 14. I’m going to wait until all my synths get iOS 14 patches
Fine. Just set yourself a reminder for September 1. Then you'll need to decide whether to jump to iOS 14, or wait for iOS 15. Because once the new version is released, you can't decide you'd like the previous version.
Yes it may be inevitable. Let’s see
Eventually Apps set minimum requirements for operating systems or you can’t download, or update the app. Also Apple will do the same as new iOS versions come out. so over time you will not be able to download certain apps, get app updates, and eventually not be able to download any newly released apps. Plus there are usually bug fixes, and last but not least security updates. It’s a good idea not to update immediately, just in case, but usually once a short time has passed, you can get a general consensus from this forum and other places to see if it’s time to update.
It made my Air 2 very laggy, where it intermittently completely freezes and becomes unresponsive for a minute or so.
That's the only report of such a thing I've read anywhere. It seems like there's a good chance there is something else going on. I'd be interested to hear if any other Air 2 users have had this experience since I have an Air 2 still on iOS 13.7.