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How many make music because of J Dilla?
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You’re welcome @TheOriginalPaulB 👍
It’s not about making anyone a poster boy. It’s about lifting up black culture which has historically been marginalized or appropriated or exploited by the institutions of white power. Hip hop is undeniably a contribution of American black culture and Dilla was an undeniable innovator of the form.
As to your Warhol question: He IS in the museums collection of white mans culture. It just happens that that collection is Calle d the “general” or “regular collection” bc of generations of white supremacy and minority oppression.
@Max23 I'm not understanding why you feel it's necessary to pick a fight on this thread. Bunch of folks wanting to talk about an artist who influenced them. No one except you is doing a sociological or cultural analysis. Give it a rest.
Just stop. This was a tribute thread.
Dilla was nice but I never really considered him the best or GOaT.
I was most impressed with his work ethic when he was sick.
I can hardly find enough energy to make much music these days with my own health struggles.
I always said I was gonna go out like Dilla with the beat machine in the hospital when my time comes.
Premier was probably my biggest, earliest influence into beatmaking
I'm frequently saddened and elated simultaneously when I discover someone I never knew about, but that have a massive archive of music to check out.
If you know you know. Not being ignorant (said in South Park Michael Jackson voice), but it does come down to a feeling, to quote Brother Ali, “that feeling you just got inside your stomach is our proof that we the truth”. I have a friend that would invite us over to spin crazy, limited edition, deep cut techno. That shit hit him in a way I couldn’t comprehend without Molly, Mary and all their sisters present, and even then would not have felt it or understood it as deeply as he did dead sober. That was his shit. There are literally thousands of songs made with samples, big drums, bass, etc., but they don’t hit the same as Dilla’s stuff due to the feeling he infused into those simple, common elements. Shoot, “Stakes is High” is a pretty simple beat, but you put that on and I’m going to wild out and do some windmills, full well knowing I won’t be able to walk the next day. That shit puts the spirit in me same as Neal Cassidy would get utterly possessed by jazz in his day.
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A few years ago you told a forum member: “Don't make jokes about worlds you don't understand.” In the same thread you also corrected that “Not the whole world is white, male, straight and Christian.” https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/20061/suicide-linkin-park-singer/p4
Perhaps identity is only important to you when it’s about yourself. You’re out of your depth here, changing the subject to something you don’t understand on a thread about an artist. Consider relenting.
You astraight up don’t know what you are talking about with regards to race and America..offensively so, in my opinion.
Your lack of empathy and understanding as concerns race in America is boundless. Racism is an ongoing issue that affects millions of people extremely adversely in ways over which they have no influence. African Americans have and continue to be discriminated against in ways large and small and suffer in ways you seem unable to imagine...either that or you somehow believe they deserve to suffer...which I can’t imagine you believe.
You really should stop acting as if discussions of racism is some sort of fetishism. Your words disrespect millions of people.
Please stop commenting on the topic.
🙄 (Speaking of obsessions...)
...which speaks volumes.
Is it possible to put users on mute on here?
Thread winner
Superdom is correct. Whether we are prepared to admit it or not, all of us here make music because of Phyllis Dilla.
Interesting piece. I must confess, I had never, ever heard of J Dilla. Too old/white/British/past it, I guess. Still and all, respect to his innovations.
Music is a big ol’ place...
In a limited fashion. There’s an ignore feature you can activate from a member’s profile page.
I don’t think anyone ever claimed he was innovative in gabber ...
He used far more interesting samples from a far wider range of music because he had all knowledge and thought outside his genre. Some of his productions could only be attributed to him and sounded like no one else.
Who is this guy?
No idea. Speaks of my age I guess.
Still, hope he, among other icons of various generations, continues inspiring new folks to make and share their music.
You have no idea what I’m on about do you? I will forgive you though cause I have no idea what you’re on about.
I believe this was an attempt on Simon's part at starting a series of evolving, often humorous, non-sequitur replies. This has become quite popular on the internet, particularly on 'forums' such as Reddit. However, the odds of it propagating now have been severely diminished.
For those that doubt J Dilla was anything special, spend some time reading interviews with musicians influenced by him. When scores of musicians tell you that someone’s music was life-changing and changed how they approach things — believe it even if you can’t hear why. Dilla has been dead 15 years and was influencing other musicians for 10 yeas before that. If you invest time, you will find That it was not just hip-hop and rap artists that were influenced by him.
If what he did doesn’t sound innovative to you, it is largely because he was so influential that a lot of what was innovative is commonplace. It is hard to listen to music decades after the fact and experience it as if you hadn’t heard all the music you have heard since then.
Listen to Louis Armstrong today and he may seem pretty run-of-the-mill. Listen to Sgt Pepper’s and it might seem like “what’s the big deal”, etc.
His music might not speak to you, but believe the scores and scores of musicians that tell you, his music changed their lives...which also means it influenced all the people they listened to.
(edited for clarity) And if rap and hip-hop as genres mean nothing to you and you are close-mindedly dismissive, maybe consider starting your own thread to debate its merits rather than trolling this appreciation of J Dilla.
Well said.