Drambo Version 1.33

sigma79

@drez said:

@sigma79 said:

@drez said:
Has anyone figured out if it’s possible to change drambo patterns from within NS2 with drambo as an AU?

Do you not just go to, mappings via drambo. When map each pattern ( maybe set to recieve a note rather than cc ) then press either a key in nano studio or midi keyboard?

Than you so much @sigma79! I know that’s a noob question, but I’m primarily an in the box type of musician. This will open up a new world for me. Gracias!

Did it work. Just a guess. Only ever mapped sb drum patterns to be triggered by drambo notes. So there were actually no mapping.

rs2000

@sigma79 said:

@drez said:

@sigma79 said:

@drez said:
Has anyone figured out if it’s possible to change drambo patterns from within NS2 with drambo as an AU?

Do you not just go to, mappings via drambo. When map each pattern ( maybe set to recieve a note rather than cc ) then press either a key in nano studio or midi keyboard?

Than you so much @sigma79! I know that’s a noob question, but I’m primarily an in the box type of musician. This will open up a new world for me. Gracias!

Did it work. Just a guess. Only ever mapped sb drum patterns to be triggered by drambo notes. So there were actually no mapping.

Quick tip: You can use MIDI notes C-2 to C-1 to trigger 12 different patterns from NS2 and add a MIDI > Note filter module starting at C#-1 in Drambo to avoid triggering notes on the track.

jazzmess

Apart from using the flexisampler who is the evident solution here, has anyone found a workaround to record audio clips ?
My computer is down and I cannot use Bitwig the record MPE midi clips, so the only solution is to record audio in drambo :-)

sigma79

@rs2000 said:

@sigma79 said:

@drez said:

@sigma79 said:

@drez said:
Has anyone figured out if it’s possible to change drambo patterns from within NS2 with drambo as an AU?

Do you not just go to, mappings via drambo. When map each pattern ( maybe set to recieve a note rather than cc ) then press either a key in nano studio or midi keyboard?

Than you so much @sigma79! I know that’s a noob question, but I’m primarily an in the box type of musician. This will open up a new world for me. Gracias!

Did it work. Just a guess. Only ever mapped sb drum patterns to be triggered by drambo notes. So there were actually no mapping.

Quick tip: You can use MIDI notes C-2 to C-1 to trigger 12 different patterns from NS2 and add a MIDI > Note filter module starting at C#-1 in Drambo to avoid triggering notes on the track.

Thanks rs

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aleyas

@jazzmess said:
Apart from using the flexisampler who is the evident solution here, has anyone found a workaround to record audio clips ?
My computer is down and I cannot use Bitwig the record MPE midi clips, so the only solution is to record audio in drambo :-)

I think some people are using the 4Pockets Multitrack Recorder (hosted in standalone) to record. I outlined a method using SunVox as well, but it’s kind of complicated.
I think that native track recording is on the timeline though, so sooner or later it’ll be easier.

ExAsperis99

@childofthecorndog said:

@Shiloh said:

@childofthecorndog said:
Nice patches dramfam, thanks for sharing! Here’s something quick with the buffer modules. Fun for some chaos....

https://patchstorage.com/buffnstuff/

Nice lil chaos maker. I like it.

Expanded version with XY’s for panning and granular via the free clouds port in Spectrum.

Quick phone thing with two instances...Fader’s fiddly AF on phone 🤪

https://patchstorage.com/buffnstuff-with-fries/

I love this but I have absolutely no idea what's going on! This reminds me of when I was sick for a week in ninth grade. I came back to advanced algebra and was completely baffled. Two weeks later, they moved me into "middle" algebra, and thus began the long slow descent into the liberal arts....

Can you tell me how you made this, @childofthecorndog? It's quite beautiful.

cuscolima

@wim said:

@Stuntman_mike said:

@wim said:
LK works great in this now. I put it on the Main track, then set a midi channel filter on each track, and set the input for the midi filter to LK.

Later I decided it would be convenient to also be able to use the Drambo keyboard on each track as well. This made it necessary to add another channel filter and a midi mixer on each channel, but it works quite nicely this way.

I can’t seem to figure out how to do what you say you did.

Yeh, sorry, I know that was a little vague. I'll describe two setups, the first is simpler, but only lets you play on the keyboard when you have LK open:

1. Open the Main track and add LK to the left of the track 1 module. (LK is as an AU Instrument, not an AU MIDI Processor like you'd expect). Remember, signal flows left to right in Drambo, so LK needs to be the first module in the Main track.
   
2. Open track 1 and add a Midi Channel Filter module as the first module. Set it to Filter and Channel 1. This will make it so that only channel 1 will affect this track.
3. Tap the MIDI icon at the bottom to change the source from the track midi input to LK's midi output. The icon will flash. Tap Main, then the MIDI icon below LK.
4. Add a generator to the track. If you're adding an AU instrument it should go to the right of the Channel Filter and you don't need the MIDI to CV module. Otherwise it should go to the right of the MIDI to CV module. It should automatically connect so that the MIDI input comes from the Channel Filter module.
5. Back in LK, you should now be able to select LK Track 1 and as long as it is set to output on channel 1, it you should be able to send notes to the generator on Track 1.
6. The process is the same for further tracks except that the channel set in the MIDI Channel Filter module changes accordingly.

The disadvantage to this is the only MIDI input to the AU that you want to play is coming from LK. If you play the Drambo keyboard when not in the Main channel, the MIDI won't be captured. So, to do that we need to get midi from two sources, the track input and LK. To do that I used a MIDI Mixer. Since the input from the keyboard on a channel is channel 1, that would be a problem for channels that you only want to get another channel from LK, so an additional MIDI Channel Filter was needed. This example is for Channel 2:

1. Follow the steps above, setting the MIDI Channel Filter to channel 2.
2. Insert another MIDI Channel Filter as the first module in the track.
3. Insert a MIDI Mixer between the first and second Channel Filters.
4. Check that the first Channel Filter input is set to the track input.
5. The purpose of this filter is to force the track input to channel 2. So change type to Set and channel to 2.
6. Tap the MIDI icon in the MIDI Mixer and add the first Channel Filter as an input.
7. Tap the MIDI icon again, and navigate to the Main channel to add LK as the input.
8. Now change the second filter to receive input from the MIDI Mixer instead of LK.
   

So, input from the Drambo keyboard hits the first filter module and gets converted from channel 1 to channel 2. It then goes to the mixer, along with the LK input. The second filter acts as before, filtering out all but channel 2 from LK.

I hope that makes sense.

Wow, amazing trick, thanks so much!

childofthecorndog

@ExAsperis99 said:

@childofthecorndog said:

@Shiloh said:

@childofthecorndog said:
Nice patches dramfam, thanks for sharing! Here’s something quick with the buffer modules. Fun for some chaos....

https://patchstorage.com/buffnstuff/

Nice lil chaos maker. I like it.

Expanded version with XY’s for panning and granular via the free clouds port in Spectrum.

Quick phone thing with two instances...Fader’s fiddly AF on phone 🤪

https://patchstorage.com/buffnstuff-with-fries/

I love this but I have absolutely no idea what's going on! This reminds me of when I was sick for a week in ninth grade. I came back to advanced algebra and was completely baffled. Two weeks later, they moved me into "middle" algebra, and thus began the long slow descent into the liberal arts....

Can you tell me how you made this, @childofthecorndog? It's quite beautiful.

Thanks for the kind words @drez

@ExAsperis99 yeah no problem There are four different buffer chains (each on a separate layer in Layers module). The XY’s move params/mixer levels on these. Combinations of the 4 buffers and settings (and the Granular AU) result in a kind of arpeggio like thing.. There’s some scene fader stuff going on between scene A and B. For making scenes you tap the button either side of scene fader then tweak knobs for an alt sound, then you can slide between the two (in case that’s part of what you were asking about Track 1 and 2 are same sequence, in the Main track you can connect a track’s midi input to the midi output of a previous track. Track one’s sequence is feeding track two. Hope that helps

sigma79

Dosent sound great but volca drum and modular sit on the side. Drambo could be EG pulse ( which I just found ) for just randomness but would be better if the probabilty, locks and sequencer length were on screen like I described. Wouldnt ever be real music unless you spent a lot of time mastering everything and even then it would still be random and not a mastered track but maybe we just need a drum machine with quick recording and quick probabilty/p-locks/sequencer length. Sb drum is good also but dosent have input recording ( so best to design tracks )

sigma79

Id only consider another ipad ( for this type of randomness ) if theres a drum machine ideal.

sigma79

Gonna get my deck on the side. Wtf is that bro ( at the club )

Gotta set up all my controllers. mutes for sure

sigma79

Sorry drambo will be cool for this noodle stuff on the fly. Track lengths though needed.

Kashi

Why isn’t Drambo in the “on my iPad” list with all the other apps?

wim

@Kashi said:
Why isn’t Drambo in the “on my iPad” list with all the other apps?

Because it stores all files in it's "sandboxed" file area that isn't accessible to the files app. This makes things easier between AU and Standalone since AU's are restricted in where they can store files. You'll find that not all other apps have "on my iPad" folders, I think.

uncledave

@Kashi said:
Why isn’t Drambo in the “on my iPad” list with all the other apps?

It doesn't expose any public storage. The apps you see in Files explicitly make part of their files visible. You can access it using WebDAV using a 3rd-party app like FE FileExplorer Pro, or Documents by Readdle. Launch the server from the hamburger menu in Drambo. Connect to it as http://<iPadName>.local:8080/. This also works over your network, of course.

StudioES

Another tip: Be sure your PC/iPad's hostname doesn't include spaces, special characters, etc.
It can be changed here - Settings>General>About>Name.
Stick to one name, otherwise networked-attached configs may fail to connect if you change the hostname later.

WebDAV can also be configured via IP, but that may change depending on what network your iPad's on, network security settings, etc.

https://www.zubairalexander.com/blog/windows-computer-name-best-practices-and-recommendations/

rs2000

When managing Drambo files over WebDAV locally on the same device, you can also just use
http://localhost:8080
or
http://127.0.0.1:8080
to connect.
This will work while connected to any WiFi network, no need to re-adjust IP addresses anymore. I'm using this for all file management from Readdle Documents. Much more user friendly than using the awful Files.app from Apple.

Kashi

Ok. Thanks @wim
Thanks @uncledave @ocelot and @rs2000 - I have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about but I appreciate your help. I’m hoping that what you mention is an optional thing, otherwise I’ll probably be deleting drambo…

wim

@Kashi said:
Ok. Thanks @wim
Thanks @uncledave @ocelot and @rs2000 - I have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about but I appreciate your help. I’m hoping that what you mention is an optional thing, otherwise I’ll probably be deleting drambo…

Not having access to the Drambo folder on your device may not be as big a deal as you think. You can import entire folder structures into Drambo with a single action. And, due to the way iOS handles file storage, doing so won’t actually take up any more space on your device.

Kashi

Thanks @wim .
So far I’ve been downloading modules and projects from Patchstorage. Then in Drambo I have created 2 folders, one for modules, and one for projects. I open these folders and “Import file”. Is this the way to do it? Or is there another better/easier way?
Next week I’ll be working my way through the @bcrichards tutorial vids, and hopefully it will start to fall into place 😊

Have fun tonight y’all!

shazbot

@Kashi said:
Thanks @wim .
So far I’ve been downloading modules and projects from Patchstorage. Then in Drambo I have created 2 folders, one for modules, and one for projects. I open these folders and “Import file”. Is this the way to do it? Or is there another better/easier way?
Next week I’ll be working my way through the @bcrichards tutorial vids, and hopefully it will start to fall into place 😊

Have fun tonight y’all!

I did the same thing for my own stuff but also made a ‘3rd party’ with module and project folders inside them as well.

Kashi

Good idea, thanks @shazbot

shazbot

🤙🏽

rs2000

@Kashi Usually, if you download projects or module presets and they're not zipped, you can open them directly in Drambo from the web browser.

Another, more organized way is to download the patchstorage stuff using the builtin browser in Readdle Documents and then "upload" them to your desired Drambo folder. I have hundreds of presets and projects ao I've started to add sub folders where they belong for different categories.

You only have to keep the basic structure intact:
Projects go under /Documents (and any sub folder created by you)
Module presets go under /Presets/{module name} (and any sub folder created by you)

So you got WebDAV running already?

Kashi

@rs2000 said:

So you got WebDAV running already?

No. Don't know what that is.
Don't know about Readdle Docs either.

Thanks for your reply @rs2000 - I'll investigate these things

rs2000

...from an older thread: ( @Kashi )
In Drambo's main menu (let top burger icon), choose "WebDAV" to enable its WiFi file server.
In Readdle Documents, set up a new WebDAV server under "+ Add Connection"
using the address: http://127.0.0.1:8080 and call it "Drambo" or something like that.
No user or password required.
Upload, download, move, delete and create folders and files etc.
Documents also has a nice audio player built in.

Access from a Mac: In Mac Finder, connect to the Drambo URL as "Guest" via Go => Connect to Server...

Access from Windows: See https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/40126/drambo-webdav-under-windows

[Deleted User]

On my iPad with 6GB ram, after restart I have about 1GB free.
is it normal that ipados eat 5GB ram at the start?

And about CPU, CPU Dasher (app) shows use about 50%, but in drambo standalone metter shows using full available CPU and I have drops in audio. 128 buffer I know is very small, but how can we use all CPU for Drambo?

uncledave

@szczyp said:
On my iPad with 6GB ram, after restart I have about 1GB free.
is it normal that ipados eat 5GB ram at the start?

Yes. Not sure how you're measuring that, but iPadOS preloads components it thinks may be useful. I have the System Status app, and it always shows memory over 90% used, but the categories Inactive and Other imply memory that's not really committed. These items get pushed out when a real need comes along.