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Aum audio into a desktop DAW
I've seen various ways of connecting ipads and macs as both midi and audio sources including ways of feeding ipad audio direct into a DAW track on the mac.
I'm blissfully ignorant of the technical constraints but I'm wondering if anyone can think of a way to pipe audio from AUM into a DAW track on my mac ... as just another external hardware output ... and if not why not?
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As you say there are vaarious ways and largely depends on exactly how you want it to work. For example do you want to send a simple stereo feed to your Mac or multiple stereo tracks at the same time?
I'm currently exploring the Sonosbus route as want multi channel out and although technically that should be possible via ADAT with the Audiofuse audio interface it is a PITA to get working reliably sadly.
@Soundscaper if you want the easy stereo channel way then use IDAM. This is the basic Apple way and works solidly and well. This will get you there easily and quickly. It's been brought up on the forum in a number of places so a search should bring it up.
The most reliable method (and less work than it might sound) if you need to move ,more than a stereo feed is just to record the stems on the iOad and AirDrop the stem folder from iPad to Mac.
Yeah, think that's what I'm going to end up doing! Was hoping to use Sonobus not enough power to drive a USB to ethernet adaptor
Did you try using a powered hub or powered CCK?
I have...
I need to use 3 as I want to get Sonobus out of the iPAD to Sonobus on the Mac. But think I'm like 100000s before me and realising that recording individual stems from AUM and importing in Logic (which has it's own issues with sync I'm finding out) might be my best shot.
OR JUST DON'T USE THE IPAD :-(
IDAM works quite well.
+1 for iDAM. It does everything you described quite easily. Here's a good starting point: https://www.cultofmac.com/615742/how-to-record-digital-audio-from-your-iphone-to-your-mac-with-idam/
If you had said you have a PC or that you want to go from desktop to AUM, that would be a different story.
Thanks folks... much simpler. IDAM is obviously the key to getting these gadgets to talk to each other nicely... bit of a well kept secret really given its significance to the potential value of iOS.
IDAM for sure - really straightforward way of connecting.
Side question, is it possible to sync midi clock from Ableton to AUM? I wanted to trigger Drumcomputer from Ableton to make it start/stop with the host transport but haven’t been able to get it to work for the life of me… IDAM has been great for most situations except running a drum machine or other sequencer on the iPad.
Ableton link.
Yep. Ableton Link. AUM doesn't follow MIDI Clock.
If you really, really want to use MIDI Clock, then you can send it to Audiobus and have Audiobus bridge that to Link to drive AUM.
Link only works over wifi though, so it turns off when the IDAM connection is active. Is there a workaround?
Possibly. Try AUM as the clock master, Ableton Live as the clock slave and after starting AUM transport, give Live enough time to stabilize its tempo.
@ahallam I thought WiFi would still be operational with IDAM in operation?
Wifi is still operational, but Link won’t run with a hardwired connection between Live and the iPad.
Sure it will.
I just tried it. Works fine.
I just knew this wouldn't be as simple as you lot were letting on ... clocks, and invisible spooky wifi gear and and gear that's not as chatty as it should be. I still have trouble with daylight saving myself.
But that said I've just been playing DIva and Equator 2 via Quantichord & Step Poly Arp unit from the ipad ... bucket of fun... such powerful little things.
Thanks folks - progress at last... just couldn't get my head around it. Can read manuals and the like all day without making a dent on it sometimes.
Yep, I came back here to say the same thing. I hadn’t used that set up in a little while, but just plugged the iPad in via IDAM, connected both the pad and the Mac to WiFi and linked straight away....💁♂️
In theory, Link should work over a wired ethernet connection as well. I've never tried it but will someday.
I discovered by accident today that the built in mic on my usb-c iPad Pro still works when connected to iMac by IDAM.
This was with FieldScaper standalone, I’ve yet to test with other apps. Could be useful in some circumstances, saves me needing Studiomux if I want to record rough and ready vocal samples to iPad apps.
Thanks for confirming - I was sure I had done that in the past too, and almost went to confirm for myself.
I’d give it a go, but the entire file system on my Mac seems to have self destructed last night after I… added another user account.
The blessings of technology.
The new Studiomux is already in beta. Buying an old iConnect Audio is also an option.
https://community.zerodebug.com/t/studiomux-5-beta/1820
Update: edited as I noticed the beta is now public.
Not advised for the technically faint hearted at this stage... IDAM does the job well for audio from iPad to Mac DAW, Studiomux only really needed if you want to get audio travelling back the other way too.
Sure, it’s a beta. But I think here are many users who can deal with that.
Studiomux allows to have separate streams for each synth while with IDAM you could only send the stereo sum.
yes, it does and works well. I actually used it this way in my testing of Sonobus. This is where not having to go to the Internet for using Sonobus is seriously useful as you can run it all down one cable connection between the Mac and the iPad. It will also run in adhoc mode - so, if you are plugged in via IDAM you can connect the Ethernet cable between the Mac and iPad and you have Ableton Link via Ethernet and audio via IDAM.
So now tired three different USB to ethernet adaptors. iPad is connected to Apple CCK and that is powered with Apple plug and cable.
Syncwire - ipad reports not enough power to support it
Anker - ipad reports not enough power to support it
Ugreen - ipad doen't complain about power! BUT no ethernet settings appear in iPad settings.
I'm using a brand new Cat6 cable into my router, which works on all port for other devices.
Any ideas!?
IDAM will work best; however, there will be small but noticeable latency during live play which may or may not matter to you and is very apparent when using MIDI.
For example, sending pad audio from your iPad into a Logic channel with a trance gate for a stutter effect will sound very offbeat. Using Rozeta X0X to trigger Logic’s Ultrabeat will work fine but if you route iOS synth audio to play in sync with the Ultrabeat drums then there will be latency.
When playing live, I’ve found it best to only use iOS synths with iOS and desktop synths with desktop stuff since they will all be in sync unless I’m using pads/FX/sounds that don’t need to be exactly on time. When mixing I’ll export everything to stems and do it in either iOS or desktop.
The latency can all be mitigated by adjusting the delay compensations, though I haven’t been able to get these to work properly ☹️
Hopefully MIDI 2.0 will fix latency if it ever comes out.