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I just wanna RESONATE! Apps, tips, techniques for resonators
Hey, big into using resonators right now! So far I have just made things screech and howl using AUM channel filter - love it but feel like just scratch the surface, I dont know.
Not sure which are best apps for resonating? Will spend some money
and does anyone have good tips or techniques for using them effectively? Both aggressive and subtle ways maybe
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Buy AAS Objeq for sure! Cheap and great
In terms of Physical Modeling, try Resonator or Modal in Spectrum Synth based on Rings and Elements modules by Mutable Instruments. Another option are the clone of those modules in miRack.
Drambo will get mentioned, I’m sure. I’ll add another vote for spectrum (and it’s free!).
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/shaper-smart-audio-destroyer/id1151339601
The resonator on IceGear’s Lorentz synth is awesome, I’d thoroughly recommend that for any rez fans
CUSNP
Thanks guys I will check those out. No special resonator knowledge or tips from any forum members ?
Wanted to understand more about resonators and found this https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=175499
If anyone is interested
Pretty much anything will resonate if you pump enough feedback through it. For some things that are heavily damped, you may need to push feedback much greater than 1.0 (or -1.0), but, um, that's dangerous -- put a limiter on the output.
The problem with doing this sort of thing in digital is that it doesn't always degrade or overdrive nicely. If you put a bit of modulation of some sort (panning, tremolo, vibrato, etc) you can often get away with being more aggressive in the feedback. In a digital setting, you're probably going to need to add some delay in a feedback loop too. There are ways to do this delay free, but it's going to be harder and is more likely to blow up.
PhaseDelayArray is basically a couple of reverberator delays in a feedforward feedback configuration with some modulation in between. You can set up similar configurations in a modular like setting and get all sorts of crazy.
CuSnP is a bank of Karplus-Strong resonant sections that get excited by the input audio. You can have bunches of fun if you get some KS sections in a modular setting.
I wish someone would release an app with the functionality of Tritik Moodal. I love the sound of that thing. And I would'nt mind if Bram Bos decided to take my idea and make it!
https://www.tritik.com/product/moodal/
Also worth exploring - Strng by Eric Sigth ... years ahead of its time really.
For some serious left-field sounds have a look at Ankorage ... deep oddness ... springs, gravity, chaos, bouncing copper balls, linnstrument playing surface built- in... what's not to like?
SWAM's modelled instruments all have a lot of resonance control available. Geoshred's full of it.
Anything that mentions Karplus-Strong or "physical modelling" in the marketing blurbs will send you in the right direction.
Here's a start: https://www.synthtopia.com/content/tag/physical-modeling-synthesis/
Like @NeonSilicon said, most processors at the verge of feedback will resonate. Filters, phasers and delays are a good place to start.
With a filter (LPF, HPF or BPF), set the resonance level of your filter till it’s just at the verge of self oscillation. When you feed it with an impulse it will cause the filter to resonate and ring out at the cutoff frequency. It produces a natural envelope so no ADSR’s are necessary (envelope is shaped by resonance / feedback). If you do this with a bank of filters you can create a classic resonator effect. This also holds true for delays, however the pitch of the resonance in a delay signal is determined by delay length. (Remember to turn up feedback till the impulse triggers self oscillation). This is basically a comb filter. One comb filter is fun, especially when you sweep the frequency of the impulse source. But many comb filters, each tuned to harmonically related intervals is better. You could have a bank of 15 comb filters tuned so that they cover 2 octaves of a diatonic scale. A drum loop would feed the comb filter bank in parallel - by muting and unmuting the correct comb filters at different times you can create melodies and chord progressions triggered by the drum loop.
Resonant phasers are also a lot of fun. Basically all you’d need to do is turn up the feedback/resonance level, adjust cutoff to taste, and then feed the phaser with a short percussive impulse. It will ring out, just like the VCF and Comb examples before. But it has a woodier, more tribal sound to it. That’s the fun in making different things resonate - they all have unique timbres and resonate differently, with unique onsets and decays. (I can confirm this process with FAC Phaser, PhaseThree, MixBox Phaser and Drambo Phaser).
Anyway, There’s a Hainbach video out there somewhere on turning the MF-103 phaser into a drum machine. And he made a relevant video last week on ‘pinging’, which is precisely what this thread is about. Would recommend hunting those down.
Just a few ideas. Resonators are really really cool.
edit: I’ll upload some resources in the morning. It’s late here now.
This sounds intriguing. Link?
https://apps.apple.com/fr/app/springsound/id866583243
@Philandering_Bastard Here it is. Lot of fun Years ago !
@aleyas hope to see more! I recently started playing with phasers to get some woolly sounds and it’s exactly as you describe. A video would be appreciated!
Thank you.
http://www.anckorage.com/spring-sound/
I remember being totally mystified for days when I first looked at this ... no idea where to begin at all. So the vids are mandatory or you'll never work it out ... odd but quite terrific and utterly unique.
Thafknar is the one that can do them all but it's limited to static IRs. If you want to change the resonator sound over time, it needs to be baked into the IR.
CuSnP and Drambo are a strong combination because D not only has resonators but also waveguide models which are much more complex than simple resonators.
https://vimeo.com/manage/videos/495160716
Thafknar only provides the acoustic guitar body "resonator".
CuSnP adds string type resonators that aren't available in D. They also let you modulate most parameters in real time, lots of sound creation potential, not to speak of all the other processing modules available.
I think ultimately an app like Drambo is a great option because it can combine all of the above mentioned AU apps and add its own shaping and modulation options.
That was a fun one when it came up. A bit of trouble getting it to work, I think I only got it to work in AB.
Nowadays we’re spoiled for resonators, with both Drambo and miRack. Still one of my favorite things to try, I love resonators and FSU in general.
i'd say miRack...
This after a piano is lovely https://apps.apple.com/us/app/cusnp/id1418236738?ls=1
Fanboi!
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/redshrike-synthesizer/id1165470423
Subtractive Resonator Synth.
Icegear and Drambo are what I reach for. I wish Icegear would release a resonator app (though TBH I will buy anything that company puts out).
Nice tip, thnx, hadn’t tried that particular combo. @NeonSilicon is the man, can’t thank him enough for these apps, crazy that they are free
Ha, I need a t-shirt!
@Spud I put CuSpN and a few other things after Ravenscroft here and enjoyed the results a lot. PhaseDelayArray is adding a lot here too.
You can barely hear the processing on that piano, it's just a little spit and polish to bring out the natural timbre 🎹
The aural equivalent of 'Would u like some French Fries with your ketchup' 😂
All the effort and skill these developers use to give us the most authentic real piano sounds imaginable and you go and do all that to 'em. Must break their little hearts. 🥲