Desperately seeking quality bass

wired2moon

Trying to gauge which apps or app combos are capable of generating the best quality bass sounds - deep, rumbling mono darkness I seek. Patches that demonstrate this capability in synths where you wouldn’t necessarily expect awesome bassness are of particular interest.

I have Viking and it’s pretty good for bass but I’m not completely taken with it. Cyclop seems aimed at exactly this (can anyone confirm its quality?) but wondering if anyone has found other less obvious paths to full-on bass glory.

KRPT

Check out Agonizer too!

FloRi89

@KRPT said:
Check out Agonizer too!

Agonizer is massive, but I find the Venus Theory Patches for Synthmaster One are also a great starting point.

Stuntman_mike

Can’t go wrong with good, old Model D!

wired2moon

@KRPT said:
Check out Agonizer too!

Noted! Thanks

@FloRi89 said:
I find the Venus Theory Patches for Synthmaster One are also a great starting point.

Ooh yes numbers 2 and 7 are niiiice. Oddly the VT patches are on my iphone‘s SM1 but not my ipad’s...

@Stuntman_mike said:
Can’t go wrong with good, old Model D!

Cheers Mike - problem is model D shows no mercy to the DSP

jolico

SynthDrumKick will surprise you.
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/synthdrum-kick/id1362619238

It’s extremely light on resources, so you can even use it as a “sub oscillator”.

Here are some AUM presets I made:

RajahP

Troublemaker... wish it was in desktop.. NKS all the stuff..

Frank303

@jolico
That’s so cool you’re sharing your presets! You’ve shared one a while ago with a picture, I use it often. It really showed me what SynthDrumKick could do, I had given up on it a bit before.

supadom

I don’t own it but heard good things about cyclop

jolico

@Frank303 said:
@jolico
That’s so cool you’re sharing your presets! You’ve shared one a while ago with a picture, I use it often. It really showed me what SynthDrumKick could do, I had given up on it a bit before.

👍

cadetrim

@wired2moon said:

@KRPT said:
Check out Agonizer too!

Noted! Thanks

@FloRi89 said:
I find the Venus Theory Patches for Synthmaster One are also a great starting point.

Ooh yes numbers 2 and 7 are niiiice. Oddly the VT patches are on my iphone‘s SM1 but not my ipad’s...

@Stuntman_mike said:
Can’t go wrong with good, old Model D!

Cheers Mike - problem is model D shows no mercy to the DSP

And model 15. Versatile and also shows no mercy to DSP.😂

MobileMusic

Some electric pianos are really good in the low end as bass (also some guitars).

Bass should be monophonic with no delay effect. You can create your own using the pure sine wave on SynthMaster One or Poison-202

Stuntman_mike

@wired2moon said:

@KRPT said:
Check out Agonizer too!

Noted! Thanks

@FloRi89 said:
I find the Venus Theory Patches for Synthmaster One are also a great starting point.

Ooh yes numbers 2 and 7 are niiiice. Oddly the VT patches are on my iphone‘s SM1 but not my ipad’s...

@Stuntman_mike said:
Can’t go wrong with good, old Model D!

Cheers Mike - problem is model D shows no mercy to the DSP

I concur. It can spike the punch! 😂

Bass 808 and Agonizer are nice.
First version of BASSalicious is low CPU, small footprint, and is AUV3!

ChancedMusic

Shockwave is pretty solid. Love Bass 808.

lukesleepwalker

Model D. Bass 808. Bassalicious. Ripplemaker

Frank303

I’ll add Zeeon.

Philandering_Bastard

Yes to Cyclop. Its gimmick is the wub knob but it can everything except acoustic. Very versatile engine. Plus it lets you play space invader if the fancy strikes. Not too bad on the CPU either.

Fingolfinzz

All you need is the D

Philandering_Bastard

@jolico said:
SynthDrumKick will surprise you.
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/synthdrum-kick/id1362619238

It’s extremely light on resources, so you can even use it as a “sub oscillator”.

Here are some AUM presets I made:

Thanks a lot. How does one get these presets into AUM?

jolico

@Philandering_Bastard said:

@jolico said:
SynthDrumKick will surprise you.
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/synthdrum-kick/id1362619238

It’s extremely light on resources, so you can even use it as a “sub oscillator”.

Here are some AUM presets I made:

Thanks a lot. How does one get these presets into AUM?

With the “Files” app, click on the downloaded file and it will be unzipped automatically.
Then copy the “444250316B69636B61756D75” folder into the AUM “Audio Unit Presets” folder.

Done

wired2moon

Thanks folks, some interesting suggestions - Bassalicious, Bass 808 and Shockwave I know next to nothing about so will investigate - cheers. The Moog stuff, I bet it sounds great but bit too taxing I’m afraid.

Ah Troublemaker, of course! Does Ripplemaker cover similar territory bass-wise? On the modular front, I wonder what kind of bass sounds miRack is capable of. Comparable to Model 15 perhaps but at a fraction of the cpu cost?

Zeeon I have but never really managed to coax pleasing bass tones from it - @Frank303 is there a particular Zeeon patch I should check out?

Wish Cyclop wasn’t so pricey. How does it compare to something like Troublemaker @Philandering_Bastard @RajahP ?

Thanks @jolico for your shared preset, very kind

Frank303

@wired2moon
Of course I can’t tell what kinda bass you’re looking for. Here’s some examples from the Sam Izrael pack, Sounds of Izrael (SOI).

*** WARNING NO LIMITER OR ANYTHING SO MIGHT SOUND LOUD AT TIMES, DONT TURN VOLUME TO HIGH****

You’d get that straight from him via PayPal. Gavinski explains how in his pinned comment on this video

wired2moon

@Frank303 said:
@wired2moon
Of course I can’t tell what kinda bass you’re looking for. Here’s some examples from the Sam Izrael pack, Sounds of Izrael (SOI)
You’d get that straight from him via PayPal.

Ok ta will have a listen

Frank303

@wired2moon throw the new Beef or the Nembrini BlackiceBetaGamma (or both 😝) on it if necessary.

ANOTHER WARNING FOR UNCONTROLLED VOLUME

Poppadocrock

Have you considered... Single Samples, Multisamples, SoundFonts, and EXS/SF2 into Audiolayer, SoundFonts AU, or Chameleon (not all apps listed except all options mentioned) I’ve downloaded some pretty great acoustic and synthesized bass sounds for free. Loaded them in one of the apps mentioned and had some great Bass sounds. Sometimes a little FX can really help get better Bass sounds from these methods, especially an amp simulation ie. Nembrini, Mammoth, Bass Amp. Or a Bass FX app like Bass Leveler, the new Beef app, etc...

I usually use one of the ways mentioned above, but In terms of actual synthesis, or Bass sounds that come directly from the app, I like AK 808, Pure Acid, TroubleMaker, Pure Synth Platinum, Bassalicious 1&2.

Poppadocrock

Yea, as mentioned, Zeeon has some good Bass patches. Same with Moog apps, & Shockwave. But I’ve had some problems with ShockWave in standalone recently, but that doesn’t matter too much, to me since I almost always use it as an AU but still...Poison can be good as well.

Poppadocrock

Also Agonizer but I don’t have that one yet.

There’s some pretty decent Bass sounds in KQ Dixie, which sometimes gets overlooked. Yea you might need to add an amp sim, filter, some FX, or whatever to get it where you want it, but it’s full of great patches. Well it doesn’t come with all of them, you have to download all those patches, but they are free, lightweight and there are tons of presets for every instrument under the sun out there. It has some Bass patches I really like.

Also OBXD. Last post in here I promise.

Samu

I'm still drooling over the Moog Subsequent 25...

(Model D and Model 15 are nice but please Moog, bring us iSubsequent!).

supadom

@Fingolfinzz said:
All you need is the D

Yup, especially now with analog filters.

Edit: or are they still only in beta?

Samu

@supadom said:

@Fingolfinzz said:
All you need is the D

Yup, especially now with analog filters.

Shouldn't be too long before everyone else gets their fingers on the
(But still I'm having hard time fully replicating the Subsequent 25).

caminante

I like the bass presets in Imaginando’s DRC. They are full and deep.