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Moog Model D 1.3.2 update is out

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  • BradBrad

    @MoogMusicInc said:

    Just to keep you all in the loop, we were able to work around the performance regression that we managed to reproduce and have submitted new TestFlight builds to Apple for Model 15 and Minimoog Model D.

    When they become available, we'll post a public link on this thread again.

    <3 your friends at Moog

    You guys are great! It’s nice to see a developer willing to listen to its customers and work with them. I’m sure you have lots of other things to do, but thank you for fixing this! Really appreciated!

  • yaosichenyaosichen

    @MoogMusicInc said:
    Here are the external TestFlight versions:

    Minimoog Model D v1.3.4 build 128:
    https://testflight.apple.com/join/8oJrJ9ha

    Model 15 v2.2.7 build 271:
    https://testflight.apple.com/join/1hfc44jm

    Please verify that you have the correct version and build in the about dialogs of the apps and let us know if it solves your performance problems.

    Thanks so much for your help!

    <3 your friends at Moog

    @Bon_Tempi @Pierre118 @yaosichen @DMfan @AudioGus @VoytecG @OnfraySin

    singing and danceing this time

    ❤️

  • Bon_TempiBon_Tempi

    @MoogMusicInc said:
    Here are the external TestFlight versions:

    Minimoog Model D v1.3.4 build 128:
    https://testflight.apple.com/join/8oJrJ9ha

    Model 15 v2.2.7 build 271:
    https://testflight.apple.com/join/1hfc44jm

    Please verify that you have the correct version and build in the about dialogs of the apps and let us know if it solves your performance problems.

    Thanks so much for your help!

    <3 your friends at Moog

    @Bon_Tempi @Pierre118 @yaosichen @DMfan @AudioGus @VoytecG @OnfraySin

    Congrats and thanks for your efforts/skills and listening to us and our issues -

    was checking both new versions - and I can confirm the improvement for my device - IPAD Pro 12,9 2017:

    Model D - 3 instances running perfectly fine - no more crackles while opening/closing the UI

    Model 15 - 2 instances running perfectly fine - no more crackles while opening/closing the UI

    • first impression while using one of them in conjunction with other AUV3s ... seems like a general lowering of the overall DSP-usage ...

    So yes, thanks for this!

  • Pierre118Pierre118

    @MoogMusicInc It looks like your team has solved the problem. I got around the 50% with 3 instances. Good work, thank you!

  • ZerozerozeroZerozerozero
    • first impression while using one of them in conjunction with other AUV3s ... seems like a general lowering of the overall DSP-usage ...

    Finding this also. When running in a project, dsp only increases by about 10%. Obviously will vary and depends on various factors but seems to be a big improvement on first glance 👍🏻

  • MoogMusicIncMoogMusicInc

    This is so great to hear, thanks for all the positive reports! We've now made these updates public on the App Store.

    ❤️ your friends at Moog

  • NeuMNeuM

    Thanks, Moogsters!

  • FrühstückFrühstück
    edited April 2021

    After updating today, no AUV3 Moog Model D shown in AUM or Drambo. IPad Air4 256 Gb latest iOS 14.4.2. I‘m in trouble. Big, big trouble. So my Update fails.

    Before last Update 9 Instances in AUM before crackles.
    After last Update 4 Instances in AUM before crackles.
    Fresh new Update 0 Instances in AUM only InterApp starts.

    Deinstalled and reinstalled same Result. 🧐

  • MoogMusicIncMoogMusicInc

    @Frühstück said:
    After updating today, no AUV3 Moog Model D shown in AUM or Drambo. IPad Air4 256 Gb latest iOS 14.4.2. I‘m in trouble. Big, big trouble. So my Update fails.

    Before last Update 9 Instances in AUM before crackles.
    After last Update 4 Instances in AUM before crackles.
    Fresh new Update 0 Instances in AUM only InterApp starts.

    Deinstalled and reinstalled same Result. 🧐

    You might want to try uninstalling, force closing all apps, rebooting iPad and then install again with no other apps running.

  • FrühstückFrühstück

    @MoogMusicInc said:

    @Frühstück said:
    After updating today, no AUV3 Moog Model D shown in AUM or Drambo. IPad Air4 256 Gb latest iOS 14.4.2. I‘m in trouble. Big, big trouble. So my Update fails.

    Before last Update 9 Instances in AUM before crackles.
    After last Update 4 Instances in AUM before crackles.
    Fresh new Update 0 Instances in AUM only InterApp starts.

    Deinstalled and reinstalled same Result. 🧐

    You might want to try uninstalling, force closing all apps, rebooting iPad and then install again with no other apps running.

    Now it works well. 🥂 Thankful @MoogMusicInc 👏

  • MoogMusicIncMoogMusicInc

    @Frühstück said:

    @MoogMusicInc said:

    @Frühstück said:
    After updating today, no AUV3 Moog Model D shown in AUM or Drambo. IPad Air4 256 Gb latest iOS 14.4.2. I‘m in trouble. Big, big trouble. So my Update fails.

    Before last Update 9 Instances in AUM before crackles.
    After last Update 4 Instances in AUM before crackles.
    Fresh new Update 0 Instances in AUM only InterApp starts.

    Deinstalled and reinstalled same Result. 🧐

    You might want to try uninstalling, force closing all apps, rebooting iPad and then install again with no other apps running.

    Now it works well. 🥂 Thankful @MoogMusicInc 👏

    🎊🎉 Yay!!! 🎉🎊

  • VoytecGVoytecG
    edited April 2021

    Hello Crew, Hello @MoogMusicInc !
    I got some troubles with my SL88 keyboard, and I'm little bit late here. Finally, after short try on my 6th gen machine, I checked Model D on my main iPad (Pro 11in 2020), and the results are very good.
    All was done with Keystage v.2 as the host, and the DSP use is shown.
    Buffer size: 64 samples. Everything stage-use oriented.

    Old is 1.3.1 (121), New is 1.3.4 (128)

    One instance, on idle: Old 20%, New 17%

    Two instances, on action: Old 40%, New 33% (!)

    Stress test (6 diverse plugins, including Model D) played at once.

    On idle: Old 30%, New 29%

    Stress test, on full action (lot of fast notes, maxed polyphony by sustain pedal): Old 54%, New 49%

    If the last test was done after use of other, non-musical apps (browser, YT, Eurosport Player, etc), then I got 76%.

    All I have on the screenshots, but I have no idea how to show them in small size on the page with possibility to expand them.

    Thank you @MoogMusicInc

  • GLaceyGLacey

    @GLacey said:
    I did a test last November in Cubasis 3 to check how much the different number of Model D AU instances load the CPU. (Original purpose of the test was to compare the multi core vs single core performance of CB3)
    Now I repeated the test. You can see the results below.

    DSP load vs number of modelD instances:
    Nov ‘20 (v1.2.12) —> Apr ‘21 (v1.3.3)
    1: 14-15% —> 44%
    2: 28-30% —> 41% (no mistake, it’s less than @ 1 instance)
    3: 45-48% —> 46%
    4: 58-60% —> 63%
    5: 74-80% —> 77%
    6: 94-98% —> 93%

    iPad model: Air 3
    OS: 13.7

    What I also noticed that model D does not load the CPU in idle which was not the case with the previous versions.

    I repeated this test and got these results (last column is the recent update):
    v1.2.12 —> 1.3.3 —> 1.3.4
    1: 14-15% —> 44% —> 40%
    2: 28-30% —> 41% —> 35-50% (I assume due to CPU throttling)
    3: 45-48% —> 46% —> 41%
    4: 58-60% —> 63% —> 50%
    5: 74-80% —> 77% —> 64%
    6: 94-98% —> 93% —> 78%
    7: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx —> 89%

  • ervinervin

    @Frühstück said:

    @MoogMusicInc said:

    @Frühstück said:
    After updating today, no AUV3 Moog Model D shown in AUM or Drambo. IPad Air4 256 Gb latest iOS 14.4.2. I‘m in trouble. Big, big trouble. So my Update fails.

    Before last Update 9 Instances in AUM before crackles.
    After last Update 4 Instances in AUM before crackles.
    Fresh new Update 0 Instances in AUM only InterApp starts.

    Deinstalled and reinstalled same Result. 🧐

    You might want to try uninstalling, force closing all apps, rebooting iPad and then install again with no other apps running.

    Now it works well. 🥂 Thankful @MoogMusicInc 👏

    Wow. IPadOS is like Windows. :)

  • NeuMNeuM

    @ervin said:

    @Frühstück said:

    @MoogMusicInc said:

    @Frühstück said:
    After updating today, no AUV3 Moog Model D shown in AUM or Drambo. IPad Air4 256 Gb latest iOS 14.4.2. I‘m in trouble. Big, big trouble. So my Update fails.

    Before last Update 9 Instances in AUM before crackles.
    After last Update 4 Instances in AUM before crackles.
    Fresh new Update 0 Instances in AUM only InterApp starts.

    Deinstalled and reinstalled same Result. 🧐

    You might want to try uninstalling, force closing all apps, rebooting iPad and then install again with no other apps running.

    Now it works well. 🥂 Thankful @MoogMusicInc 👏

    Wow. IPadOS is like Windows. :)

    Not at all. There are no reports of a “Blue Screen of Death” on iOS or iPadOS. :smiley:

  • ervinervin

    @NeuM said:

    @ervin said:

    @Frühstück said:

    @MoogMusicInc said:

    @Frühstück said:
    After updating today, no AUV3 Moog Model D shown in AUM or Drambo. IPad Air4 256 Gb latest iOS 14.4.2. I‘m in trouble. Big, big trouble. So my Update fails.

    Before last Update 9 Instances in AUM before crackles.
    After last Update 4 Instances in AUM before crackles.
    Fresh new Update 0 Instances in AUM only InterApp starts.

    Deinstalled and reinstalled same Result. 🧐

    You might want to try uninstalling, force closing all apps, rebooting iPad and then install again with no other apps running.

    Now it works well. 🥂 Thankful @MoogMusicInc 👏

    Wow. IPadOS is like Windows. :)

    Not at all. There are no reports of a “Blue Screen of Death” on iOS or iPadOS. :smiley:

    :) Fair point, although in fairness I have never seen one in Windows 10, either.

  • CharlesalbertCharlesalbert

    @DavidEnglish said:
    Looking very good here. It's now better than with the baseline 1.3.1.

    2017 12.9-inch iPad Pro
    with iPadOS 14.4.2

    Version 1.3.1 -- Five instances of Model D in AUM - 63% DSP (when idle)
    Version 1.3.2 -- Five instances of Model D in AUM - 73% DSP (when idle)
    Version 1.3.3 -- Five instances of Model D in AUM - 65% DSP (when idle)
    Version 1.3.4 -- Five instances of Model D in AUM - 59% DSP (when idle)

    It’s amazing since I have the 2020 pro and I got the same exactly result. Really better now then 1.3.2✌️

  • NeuMNeuM

    @ervin said:

    @NeuM said:

    @ervin said:

    @Frühstück said:

    @MoogMusicInc said:

    @Frühstück said:
    After updating today, no AUV3 Moog Model D shown in AUM or Drambo. IPad Air4 256 Gb latest iOS 14.4.2. I‘m in trouble. Big, big trouble. So my Update fails.

    Before last Update 9 Instances in AUM before crackles.
    After last Update 4 Instances in AUM before crackles.
    Fresh new Update 0 Instances in AUM only InterApp starts.

    Deinstalled and reinstalled same Result. 🧐

    You might want to try uninstalling, force closing all apps, rebooting iPad and then install again with no other apps running.

    Now it works well. 🥂 Thankful @MoogMusicInc 👏

    Wow. IPadOS is like Windows. :)

    Not at all. There are no reports of a “Blue Screen of Death” on iOS or iPadOS. :smiley:

    :) Fair point, although in fairness I have never seen one in Windows 10, either.

    I’ve seen my share of catastrophic Windows failures. LOL.

  • RobertFernandesRobertFernandes

    It’s great now! Thank you @MoogMusicInc !

  • SpudSpud

    Working well on my old Air 2 now. Thanks for your efforts :-)

  • VoytecGVoytecG
    edited April 2021

    This discussion is one of the best examples of an interaction between developers and users. This forum is priceless. Amazing.

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @MoogMusicInc Hi,
    Model 15 has a Mac version now. Will model D receive the same treatment?

  • michael_mmichael_m

    @NeuM said:

    @ervin said:

    @NeuM said:

    @ervin said:

    @Frühstück said:

    @MoogMusicInc said:

    @Frühstück said:
    After updating today, no AUV3 Moog Model D shown in AUM or Drambo. IPad Air4 256 Gb latest iOS 14.4.2. I‘m in trouble. Big, big trouble. So my Update fails.

    Before last Update 9 Instances in AUM before crackles.
    After last Update 4 Instances in AUM before crackles.
    Fresh new Update 0 Instances in AUM only InterApp starts.

    Deinstalled and reinstalled same Result. 🧐

    You might want to try uninstalling, force closing all apps, rebooting iPad and then install again with no other apps running.

    Now it works well. 🥂 Thankful @MoogMusicInc 👏

    Wow. IPadOS is like Windows. :)

    Not at all. There are no reports of a “Blue Screen of Death” on iOS or iPadOS. :smiley:

    :) Fair point, although in fairness I have never seen one in Windows 10, either.

    I’ve seen my share of catastrophic Windows failures. LOL.

    It’s better than it used to be. Remember when a Windows application would crash and you would be left with a DOS prompt? 😂

    Back on topic - thanks to all at Moog for some great work!

  • OnfraySinOnfraySin

    Yes!!

    Amazing performance, 3 instances on AUM, 60% dsp.

    THANK YOU

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  • soulianissoulianis

    Model D Version 1.3.7 Build 135

    @MoogMusicInc Since the update Model D does no longer respond to CC64 (Sustain Pedal), is this intended, or is this a regression?

    Thank you very much for your help.

  • _smund_smund

    Let mi ask for some help! :)
    I used to have a SH 101 and I could make a Stutter effect with it, but I seem to have forgotten how, Im trying to reproduce the effect I am looking for in this short video using Turnado.
    But I would rather like to replicate it by automating knob twists in Moog model D.

  • Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredrWrlds2ndBstGeoshredr

    @_smund said:
    Let mi ask for some help! :)
    I used to have a SH 101 and I could make a Stutter effect with it, but I seem to have forgotten how, Im trying to reproduce the effect I am looking for in this short video using Turnado.
    But I would rather like to replicate it by automating knob twists in Moog model D.

    Send a square wave LFO to the synth's volume and/or filter cutoff.

  • NeuMNeuM

    Looking forward to the Model D coming to macOS and going full cross-compatible, like the Model 15 and the Animoog Z.

  • _smund_smund

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr Hi buddy. How I do dis?

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