How old are you?

michael_m

@LinearLineman said:
@michael_m > @michael_m said:

I’m 56, but it’s just a number.

Lol. My accountant would say that to me when I asked about my taxes... it’s just a number. He was good.

Mine does too, but usually that number is very low as she’s a good friend of my wife... 😀

MrStochastic

I guess I’m in Mr. Lineman’s cohort. I’m worried that if I reveal my age I’ll seem even more irrelevant than usual. Hmmm, can’t think of an emoji for that.
I can be a bit envious of younger people growing up with modern computers; I was already in my late 30s when I got my first computer, an early Mac, just with the intention of composing music on it. You know, those postage stamp size b/w screens; not even grayscale. But midi
actually worked pretty well. I had to spend hundreds of dollars to ‘upgrade’ the memory to 4 Mb. Okay enough with nostalgia!
What I like about the AB forum is that I get very little sense that we’re different ages; the general tone seems ageless in our pursuit of sound discoveries.

wim

@Stochastically said:
I can be a bit envious of younger people growing up with modern computers; ...

Not me. I'm glad I cut my teeth when making music was expected to be hard. No matter how many little niggles come up with iOS software, I just can't get too bothered by them because at its worst, music making now is so incredibly easy compared to the old days when we used to have to tune our guitars with our ear lobes while crawling to school in the snow with our legs cut off.

Seriously though, I feel like I'm so much happier than the average iOS music making person, and I think it's because of having that perspective of how much simpler everything is now.

wim

For reference, I grew up in the very late stages of the great transformation to color. sigh... I kind of miss those simpler times.

mangecoeur

Fun to see this conversation, in my mid-30s I never thought i'd be among the young-uns here :P (Although in "real life" I'm an academic which means I'll be considered 'junior' until my 40s so it kinda fits

Probably ye-olde forums are too old fashioned for the kids, I guess i grew up at just the right time to see social media be born and grow into the nihlistic lovecraftian horror of today and want little to do with that mess. That said even YT ipad music seems to lean older...

For me anyway the appeal is that it's more tactile and more fun to use on the sofa - I have a beast of Mac that gets intense use for other things (so it's not about being more 'into' desktops) but somehow making noise on the ipad is what clicked with me.

LinearLineman

@Stochastically, wear that age like a banner, mate ... like...like... like a PSA score under 2!

As for younguns’... the poor little devils. I pity ‘em and the world we made for them. Computers, internet, energy drinks, hookups an’ all. Course it amn’t our fault. We stood on the shoulders of giants as always. Giant fools. Every generation gets ‘em. It de hooman fate.

king_picadillo

@wim prolly doesn’t hurt that you are a genius in the ios landscape. Has got to feel pretty great to know the entire game board like the back of your hand. Looking forward to the day I get somewhere near as dialed.

michael_m

@LinearLineman said:
As for younguns’... the poor little devils. I pity ‘em and the world we made for them. Computers, internet, energy drinks, hookups an’ all. Course it amn’t our fault. We stood on the shoulders of giants as always. Giant fools. Every generation gets ‘em. It de hooman fate.

I don’t want to sound like some Monty Python sketch about how things were in the past, but...

There is much more color and variation to the experiences of people who lived before a certain time. Music involved learning a physical instrument, recording was something that took years to learn, most careers involved spending a lot of time learning how to create something, world travel was a transforming experience, everyone had to learn ‘life skills’ to survive, etc.

I wouldn’t disparage the skills and knowledge of anyone younger than me, but it’s a totally different experience for most now.

wim

@king_picadillo said:
@wim prolly doesn’t hurt that you are a genius in the ios landscape. Has got to feel pretty great to know the entire game board like the back of your hand. Looking forward to the day I get somewhere near as dialed.

More often than not, I don't know the answer when a question is asked, and am only figuring it out at the time. More often than not, if I don't test what I think is an answer ... I get it wrong. Being good at figuring stuff out is nice. Making music I'm happy with is another challenge altogether, and what I wish I was better dialed into.

king_picadillo

@wim, i going to guess you’re pretty dialed in on that front as well. My experience has been that the most talented are usually the most self critical.

Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr

@quartzite said:
I think a lot of young people see iPads (what most folks use for iOS music) as a device for older folks who don't know how to use a laptop and have too much money. I think this is wrong though, touch screen interactions are a great middle point between a laptop and hardware. I also went to school for interaction design and spend all day at a computer already, so I'm extra drawn to iOS music.

Me too. Love the touchscreen so much more than the kb. If someone other than Apple would build a more open touchscreen device and attract devs, I’d abandon iPad in a second. Please, tech geniuses. Do that!

Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr

@ruggedsmooth said:
Turned 40 recently, which is a pretty big milestone for me. I made a goal to live that long about 7 years ago, lol I know is kind of morbid.
Trying to make it to 45 now... it’s been a battle.
Discovered iOS music/iPad production while being in the hospital.

Good luck bro.

AudioGus

@michael_m said:

@LinearLineman said:
As for younguns’... the poor little devils. I pity ‘em and the world we made for them. Computers, internet, energy drinks, hookups an’ all. Course it amn’t our fault. We stood on the shoulders of giants as always. Giant fools. Every generation gets ‘em. It de hooman fate.

I don’t want to sound like some Monty Python sketch about how things were in the past, but...

There is much more color and variation to the experiences of people who lived before a certain time. Music involved learning a physical instrument, recording was something that took years to learn, most careers involved spending a lot of time learning how to create something, world travel was a transforming experience, everyone had to learn ‘life skills’ to survive, etc.

I wouldn’t disparage the skills and knowledge of anyone younger than me, but it’s a totally different experience for most now.

The new generation will develop new skills we never had access to learn. Recording itself was new not too long ago.

Neuralink live mixing anyone?

Also, I meet a fair number of young people that seem to find sequencers and electronic stuff to be boring. They play saxophone, piano, guitar etc. I am actually more surprised when I meet ones into the electronic stuff. Maybe it is because I work with people into computers and they use traditional instruments to detox.

cabo

in the highest category (60+), but starting my pop star career in a minute or two

seriously, making more these days, musically and in terms of songwriting, than ever

NoiseHorse

Well.. first I pick up my favorite brontosaurus bones and beat out a rhythm on the pterodactyl wing I captured on a hunt, then pipe the whole thing into AUM...
Oops wrong thread

cem_olcay

I've turned 30 last month. I have to say I'm surprised that I'm one of the younger members of the community, I was actually expecting the other way around! Anyways, such a great community with different age groups, even with 70+ youngs!

RUST( i )K

Came to thread expecting to feel defeated and old. Left thread feeling mature and surrounded by similar minded well intentioned people I deeply appreciate interacting with.

richardyot

@IOSSOS said:
How about a poll by GENDER?!

Leans very heavily male, unfortunately. It would be good to see a greater mix, but I think many women either avoid forums or don't reveal their gender. There are some women here though.

ervin

An aftershot to the artist/hobbyist subthread: too bad the original, positive meaning of the word "amateur" got lost in time and we ended up with mostly negative connotations. Cause that's what a lot of us actually are: people who do a thing because they love doing it.

richardyot

@ervin said:
An aftershot to the artist/hobbyist subthread: too bad the original, positive meaning of the word "amateur" got lost in time and we ended up with mostly negative connotations. Cause that's what a lot of us actually are: people who do a thing because they love doing it.

Yes, in the 19th century the word amateur was a compliment (in fact in French it still is). The dilettante was the one used disparagingly.

Frank303

Yay it’s my birthday! Free drinks 🍺 on me 😝

michael_m

@richardyot said:

@IOSSOS said:
How about a poll by GENDER?!

Leans very heavily male, unfortunately. It would be good to see a greater mix, but I think many women either avoid forums or don't reveal their gender. There are some women here though.

Also gender questions can sometimes be difficult to phrase appropriately, as it’s not always as simple as “are you male or female?”

jolico

@Frank303 said:
Yay it’s my birthday! Free drinks 🍺 on me 😝

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LinearLineman

Lots of birthdays around here. Wishing you all a great year to come.

MrStochastic

@LinearLineman said:
@AudioGus, I think I remember now you being involved or knowing illustrators... you may recall I repped same for 20 years. Indeed, they mostly didn’t think of themselves as artists... because they were doing someone else’s conception. In that respect they were correct. Many did art working in addition.

I also came out of visual arts, graphic design, etc. Constructing music with midi seems like a kind of sculptural process for me.

@LinearLineman said:
@Stochastically, wear that age like a banner, mate ... like...like... like a PSA score under 2!

👍🏻 Oops - too graphic?

puppychumful

I’m very old, I'm covered in white fur, and I spend most of my time in my dog bed snoozing and waiting to be taken out for a walk, or simply just to do my business. I get along fine with the touch screen on iOS devices as it best suits my paws. I’m mostly into the ultrasonic so my compositions are pretty specialized. I detest dog whistle politics, but I am a fan of the following humans:

Economists:
Robert Reich
Richard Wolff
Yanis Varoufakis
Thomas Piketty
Paul Krugman
Joseph Stiglitz
Adam Smith (the “masters of mankind” follow the “vile maxim” of “All for ourselves and nothing for other people”)

Writers, Philosophers, Scientists, Historians, Professors:
Albert Bartlett
Lawrence Krauss
Isaac Asimov
Chris Hedges
Noam Chomsky
Eugene Debs
Howard Zinn

Whistle Blowers:
Julian Assange
Edward Snowden
Reality Winner
Chelsea Manning
Daniel Ellsberg

Frank303

@LinearLineman said:
Lots of birthdays around here. Wishing you all a great year to come.

Thanks buddy! The year to come can’t possibly be worse as what we had right? RIGHT? I hope so..

FRibeiro

51 and counting

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@Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

@quartzite said:
I think a lot of young people see iPads (what most folks use for iOS music) as a device for older folks who don't know how to use a laptop and have too much money. I think this is wrong though, touch screen interactions are a great middle point between a laptop and hardware. I also went to school for interaction design and spend all day at a computer already, so I'm extra drawn to iOS music.

Me too. Love the touchscreen so much more than the kb. If someone other than Apple would build a more open touchscreen device and attract devs, I’d abandon iPad in a second. Please, tech geniuses. Do that!

Yea well apple owns all the good copyrights sadly

topaz

57 and everything a British 57 year old should NOT be (allegedly)

Left wing, socialist, anti racist, anti brexit, Tory hating woke.

Proud do not a be a gammon boomer.