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“We matter, We matter”

I know some may disapprove of posting this as not pertinent to the forum. But after reading of Derek Chauvin’s conviction on all counts I cannot restrain myself.

Only one police officer was ever convicted of murder (manslaughter?) in the great state of Minnesota. A case brought up in defense of prior legal accountability for crimes committed by law enforcement in MN. Unfortunately, that conviction was brought against a black officer.

But, with this, non colorized, justice we are witness to events that may forever prevent police from being “immune” to the consequences of their actions. They can never brutalize, injure or murder people they are sworn to protect without knowing they could be held to account.

I admit, with regret, that my awareness of the lives of blacks in this country was tacit, complacent uncharged with feeling, and unconsciously complicit. It simply was not on my radar. But, tho late to the party, I feel great relief that things may finally have turned a corner re racial injustice. Never again can a person imbued with the power of the badge feel secure that his or her actions will not be scrutinized in a court of law thanks to a powerful brotherhood that protects their own and holds them “immune” to punishment. I hope I am not being naive, but it feels that those days may be over.

I think this verdict is close to the hundred year anniversary of the genocidal actions by whites in Tulsa’s Greenwood community. If you don’t know about it...
https://www.tulsahistory.org/exhibit/1921-tulsa-race-massacre/#flexible-content

Though it is horribly sad that it has taken a century to get to the very beginning of liberty and justice for all, at least we are here and the ogre can never be put back in the box.

Just as it took the efforts of many women and many years of perseverance to finally elect a woman to the Vice Presidency, so many, many individuals and their families paid with their life’s blood to get to this moment. Hopefully, the murder of George Floyd is the culmination of their sacrifice and refusal to bow to oppression. He represents a victory for all of them... and all of us who believe in equality and justice.

I read that a woman in George Floyd Square heard the verdict and near collapsed. She said “We matter, we matter.” It was a tearfully painful and joyous moment, not only for her, but for me.
I am grateful to have become more conscious and to have seen this day.

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  • So well expressed! Deeply moved by this. I share your feelings and am so glad you posted!!! This is a huge deal. Let's hope it's a catalyst for change. I have never felt such emotion from a collective experience like this. Thanks for filling in some of the details that may not have have reached everyone. Really appreciate this thoughtful post. I believe something of this magnitude it absolutely belongs in any forum. It's about the humanity that binds us all.

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    @gkillmaster I hope I said pertinent stuff....except for not saying this was not winning the war... but a significant and unprecedented first battle. Cause the beat goes on. Chauvin ‘s trial did not stop Dante Wright’s murder by the taser cop not far from the Courthouse. There must be more convictions.

  • @LinearLineman said:
    @gkillmaster I hope I said pertinent stuff....except for not saying this was not winning the war... but a significant and unprecedented first battle. Cause the beat goes on. Chauvin ‘s trial did not stop Dante Wright’s murder by the taser cop not far from the Courthouse. There must be more convictions.

    agree!!

  • Thanks for this wonderful post @LinearLineman !
    🙏🏿🙏🏿

  • @LinearLineman Well said, I hope that you are correct.

  • Please... keep the political stuff for the rest of the internet, do not infect our beautiful little forum with that crap. Please.

  • edited April 2021

    @yaknepper said:
    Please... keep the political stuff for the rest of the internet, do not infect our beautiful little forum with that crap. Please.

    First off it’s in the right location OFF-topic, second You don’t have to read it, no one forced you, third this topic is not “crap” as you put it.

    If you don’t like it then see yourself out!!!!

    As a black man, it’s great to come to a place I frequent and see posts like this.

  • @hansjbs said:

    @yaknepper said:
    Please... keep the political stuff for the rest of the internet, do not infect our beautiful little forum with that crap. Please.

    First off it’s in the right location OFF-topic, second You don’t have to read it, no one forced you, third this topic is not “crap” as you put it.

    If you don’t like it then see yourself out!!!!

    Absolutely right on all accounts!

  • @yaknepper said:
    Please... keep the political stuff for the rest of the internet, do not infect our beautiful little forum with that crap. Please.

    What's the matter? Your white privilege get bruised or something? Yeah, newsflash, but human rights are not politics.

  • When the police cannot extra-judicially kill a black man, any person, with IMPUNITY that is a STEP to actual peace, justice, and equality

    White supremacy depends on impunity. It must be erased. Accountability must be enforced.

    Thanks @LinearLineman

  • It should have been a mistrial. Regardless of what the facts are of the case. The jury should have been sequestered from the beginning. We can’t allow mob rule to decide anyone’s fate. Maxine Waters comments were abhorrent. This is facts!!!

    I find the comments about white privilege and white supremacy RACIST! @jwmmakerofmusic how insensitive of you to think that Yak is white.

    This should not be about color at all...

    What I really want to know is and this is a serious question.... how can the founder of BLM have all this cash and what like 4 houses??? How is that OK with all the blacks being killed in Chicago for example? Do we not care about them?

  • @Eye0sStudios said:
    It should have been a mistrial. Regardless of what the facts are of the case. The jury should have been sequestered from the beginning. We can’t allow mob rule to decide anyone’s fate. Maxine Waters comments were abhorrent. This is facts!!!

    I find the comments about white privilege and white supremacy RACIST! @jwmmakerofmusic how insensitive of you to think that Yak is white.

    This should not be about color at all...

    What I really want to know is and this is a serious question.... how can the founder of BLM have all this cash and what like 4 houses??? How is that OK with all the blacks being killed in Chicago for example? Do we not care about them?

    Well said, @LinearLineman. It's best to ignore the Tami Lahrens and Ben Shapiros and their petty little acolytes who howl at the suggestion that institutional racism exists. Give these venal trolls no oxygen.

    This isn't justice, but this is a start.

  • edited April 2021

    I have so many deep feelings, I think we all do. I’ll never shake the horror of watching that video... seeing an immobilized human be robbed of his life by uniformed officers sworn to protect life.

    I cannot even imagine how awful this is for my fellow Americans who are black. All I can say is it’s shameful to realize this is what it took to get my attention. I’m sorry, and I’m changing.

  • edited April 2021

    @Eye0sStudios said:
    It should have been a mistrial. Regardless of what the facts are of the case. The jury should have been sequestered from the beginning. We can’t allow mob rule to decide anyone’s fate. Maxine Waters comments were abhorrent. This is facts!!!

    I find the comments about white privilege and white supremacy RACIST! @jwmmakerofmusic how insensitive of you to think that Yak is white.

    This should not be about color at all...

    What I really want to know is and this is a serious question.... how can the founder of BLM have all this cash and what like 4 houses??? How is that OK with all the blacks being killed in Chicago for example? Do we not care about them?

    There is no evidence that the jury was unduly influenced by any of those things.

    And why can’t one of the founders of BLM have enough money to buy 4 houses? It doesn’t automatically follow that there is any wrongdoing. (Besides which, this rumor is in no way relevant to the trial outcome).

    Derek Chauvin was afforded his constitutional right to a trial by a jury of his peers, and they passed down 3 guilty decisions. Most people agree that this was the right decision.

  • I wonder if he will survive in prison.

  • @Michael please keep discussions like this off the forum. There are plenty of other places.

  • @Philandering_Bastard said:
    @Michael please keep discussions like this off the forum. There are plenty of other places.

    I think @LinearLineman made a good post, but we really don’t need to go off at tangents. It would be great if we could just appreciate the sentiment of the first post and keep things relevant, but that hasn’t really happened...

  • @LinearLineman! You’ve gone and offended another music lover. Congratulations and thanks for a decent articulation of an empathetic response to current events.

    Someday people will realize music is political too. It’s in all social interactions.

    There’s no safe haven for shitty thinking!

    Now make another album you cad but tackle something safe like insect sex.

  • @Eye0sStudios said:
    It should have been a mistrial. Regardless of what the facts are of the case. The jury should have been sequestered from the beginning. We can’t allow mob rule to decide anyone’s fate. Maxine Waters comments were abhorrent. This is facts!!!

    I find the comments about white privilege and white supremacy RACIST! @jwmmakerofmusic how insensitive of you to think that Yak is white.

    This should not be about color at all...

    What I really want to know is and this is a serious question.... how can the founder of BLM have all this cash and what like 4 houses??? How is that OK with all the blacks being killed in Chicago for example? Do we not care about them?

    Well, you are consistent...

    Eye0sStudiosEye0sStudios January 20 Flag
    @JeffChasteen said:

    » show previous quotes
    You misspelled “massive improvement”

    Sorry... what can I say. I’m deplorable

  • @McD said:
    @LinearLineman! You’ve gone and offended another music lover. Congratulations and thanks for a decent articulation of an empathetic response to current events.

    Someday people will realize music is political too. It’s in all social interactions.

    There’s no safe haven for shitty thinking!

    Now make another album you cad but tackle something safe like insect sex.

    Bwahaha. @McD love your witty wacky sarcasm.

  • edited April 2021

    It is saddening to me that some can object to what at its heart is a human tragedy and not a political one. Are we so numbed to the murdering of people, no matter what the circumstances, that we must see the “political” in it? After all, “political” came from the Greek “polis” ...

    “a city state in ancient Greece, especially as considered in its ideal form for philosophical purposes.”

    Politics in its pure form represents an ideal. What we have here is the opposite of “politics”. To demean the chronic murder of citizens of the “polis” by “polis-men” by labeling them “politicsl” is abhorrent and redirective.

    I posted this because to me it is apolitical. It is about the value and meaning of all our lives.... not just those with B+ blood types. We all have blood in us and spilling that blood through the hatred and fear of others is not political (tho several here have rushed to politicize it). To those I say shame on you for not having the common humanity to acknowledge and support when justice is done.

    And to the forum member who equates prosperity with selling out somehow... it’d like to point out that John Lennon was murdered by a man who read an article in Esquire that depicted Lennon’s purchase of expensive houses and a boat. Mark David Chapman, in his schizzed out mind, thought Lennon betrayed his ideals. This justified shooting him to death. At least there was some psychological context to Chapman, who robbed the world of genius and hope. But to believe that human rights activists cannot be affluent as well... especially in this land of the ‘murrican dream” where the vaunted Constitution guarantees, life, liberty and the PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS... well, IMO, that is dog whistling at its finest. And damn, the rich guy has the nerve to be black!

    In a world where creatures like Sidney Powell defend their libelous remarks by claiming no sane person would believe their statements, I think it is fair to say no sane person would believe that George Floyd’s murder and those thousands who went before them is just playing politics. That is envious self serving, fear driven, bigoted, subhuman behavior.

    Sigh. This was meant to be a righteous, though bitter, celebration of the triumph of the human spirit and the raising of consciousness both public and private. Unfortunately it has to be dragged down by spite, envy and plain ole hatred. Fortunately, as in the political scene, the soul damning voices are a minority and demographic change will, in short order, put them to rest.

  • @Intrepolicious said:

    @hansjbs said:

    @yaknepper said:
    Please... keep the political stuff for the rest of the internet, do not infect our beautiful little forum with that crap. Please.

    First off it’s in the right location OFF-topic, second You don’t have to read it, no one forced you, third this topic is not “crap” as you put it.

    If you don’t like it then see yourself out!!!!

    Absolutely right on all accounts!

    full agreement and support!!!

  • @audiblevideo said:
    When the police cannot extra-judicially kill a black man, any person, with IMPUNITY that is a STEP to actual peace, justice, and equality

    White supremacy depends on impunity. It must be erased. Accountability must be enforced.

    Thanks @LinearLineman

    perfectly said

  • edited April 2021

    nevermind. too much oxygen

  • McDMcD
    edited April 2021

    @LinearLineman said:
    It is saddening to me that some can object to what at its heart is a human tragedy and not a political one. Are we so numbed to the murdering of people, no matter what the circumstances, that we must see the “political” in it? After all, “political” came from the Greek “polis” ...

    “a city state in ancient Greece, especially as considered in its ideal form for philosophical purposes.”

    Politics in its pure form represents an ideal. What we have here is the opposite of “politics”. To demean the chronic murder of citizens of the “polis” by “polis-men” by labeling them “politicsl” is abhorrent and redirective.

    I posted this because to me it is apolitical. It is about the value and meaning of all our lives.... not just those with B+ blood types. We all have blood in us and spilling that blood through the hatred and fear of others is not political (tho several here have rushed to politicize it). To those I say shame on you for not having the common humanity to acknowledge and support when justice is done.

    And to the forum member who equates prosperity with selling out somehow... it’d like to point out that John Lennon was murdered by a man who read an article in Esquire that depicted Lennon’s purchase of expensive houses and a boat. Mark David Chapman, in his schizzed out mind, thought Lennon betrayed his ideals. This justified shooting him to death. At least there was some psychological context to Chapman, who robbed the world of genius and hope. But to believe that human rights activists cannot be affluent as well... especially in this land of the ‘murrican dream” where the vaunted Constitution guarantees, life, liberty and the PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS... well, IMO, that is dog whistling at its finest. And damn, the rich guy has the nerve to be black!

    In a world where creatures like Sidney Powell defend their libelous remarks by claiming no sane person would believe their statements, I think it is fair to say no sane person would believe that George Floyd’s murder and those thousands who went before them is just playing politics. That is envious self serving, fear driven, bigoted, subhuman behavior.

    Sigh. This was meant to be a righteous, though bitter, celebration of the triumph of the human spirit and the raising of consciousness both public and private. Unfortunately it has to be dragged down by spite, envy and plain ole hatred. Fortunately, as in the political scene, the soul damning voices are a minority and demographic change will, in short order, put them to rest.

    You should get a column in the NYT... you can write. Just remember, the first step in helping
    somewhat out of a cult or a delusional mind is to aim for some kind of connection.

    We must feel sorry for the demographically challenged privileged that see their assumptions and benefits slowly being eroded... it must create a full of state of existential panic. Maybe
    "slowly" is the wrong word. The assumptions of the european's that invaded this continent have stood the test of political struggle for over 400 years. So, slowly is probably the wrong word... more like glacial.

    What's really ironic is that most of the refugees seeking asylum on our southern border are indigenous people of the americas. Pretty funny, huh? "Go back where you came from." could make a good T Shirt with a picture of Kayleigh McEnany. I'd get to go to Ireland and resist the British. I'd probably be joined by Kayleigh.

    Not going to happen. We stumble forward into a confused future. The arc of justice, ya-da, ya-da.

    I know my kids are better people than I was. So, I take credit for that. I have some penance to do for my carbon footprint.

    Remember that Twilight Zone episode where the alien manual "To Serve Man" turned out to be a cookbook? Do you think they live amongst us?

  • same. can't find the fist.

  • Glad you’re here, @LinearLineman

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