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The ABF World Cup Piano App Competition - Round 2 featuring @LinearLineMan

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  • Paulo164Paulo164

    So now I think we need a final round between these 3 contenders.
    I can handle this if you want, with a nice MIDI file including sustained notes, ethereal and sparkling treebles, rumbling basses and staccato con sforzando alla turca.

  • McDMcD
    edited April 2021

    Thanks for putting your findings behind a "spoiler" to let others play without clues.

  • Paulo164Paulo164
    edited April 2021

    @McD said:

    @Paulo164 said:
    So my result gives :
    1. Pure Piano
    2. Ivory American D
    3. Ravenscroft 275

    Very happy with that ! :)

    Do you thing you could edit your comment and put the results behind a "spoiler"?

    Oh, sorry. How do I do that ?? I should have thought twice...

  • Paulo164Paulo164

    Okay, I found it. Pfeew...

  • McDMcD
    edited April 2021

    @Paulo164 said:
    Okay, I found it. Pfeew...

    Thanks. There's probably only a couple people following along but these threads can live a long time so let's see what feedback we can get while the answers are hidden.

    Your tastes agree with mine and many others that are into piano apps.

  • McDMcD

    @Paulo164 said:
    So now I think we need a final round between these 3 contenders.
    I can handle this if you want, with a nice MIDI file including sustained notes, ethereal and sparkling treebles, rumbling basses and staccato con sforzando alla turca.

    Sure. You can do a "World Cup - Finals" thread.

    I will probably do another short comparison round here but there really are 3 top apps. Many will appreciate the qualities of the less expensive options too. You have a very discerning ear to catch the "clipping" in the BS-16i instruments. There's no attention to
    releases in that app which is typical of sf2 players.

    In a mix the "Salamander" Yamaha C5 from SoundFonts4u can really shine but it's an sf2
    so there's no details about release samples but at $0 (and an app that supports SF2's like
    SoundFonts AU $5 at or BS-16i at $8). Some DAW's also support loading SF2's like Auria Pro
    which includes a solid Salamander piano, Audio Evolution Mobile Studio and ZenBeats.

  • Paulo164Paulo164
    edited April 2021

    @McD said:

    @Paulo164 said:
    So now I think we need a final round between these 3 contenders.
    I can handle this if you want, with a nice MIDI file including sustained notes, ethereal and sparkling treebles, rumbling basses and staccato con sforzando alla turca.

    Sure. You can do a "World Cup - Finals" thread.

    I will probably do another short comparison round here but there really are 3 top apps. Many will appreciate the qualities of the less expensive options too. You have a very discerning ear to catch the "clipping" in the BS-16i instruments. There's no attention to
    releases in that app which is typical of sf2 players.

    In a mix the "Salamander" Yamaha C5 from SoundFonts4u can really shine but it's an sf2
    so there's no details about release samples but at $0 (and an app that supports SF2's like
    SoundFonts AU $5 at or BS-16i at $8). Some DAW's also support loading SF2's like Auria Pro
    which includes a solid Salamander piano, Audio Evolution Mobile Studio and ZenBeats.

    Ha ha, it will be nice to organize a "iOS piano apps world cup" (every year of course... :wink: )
    Guidelines :

    • for each app you can vote and give either 3 points, 2 points or 1 point
    • points are also given if the app meets technical requirements specific to piano playing :
      • maximum polyphony amount,
      • sustain sympathetic resonance,
      • per-note sympathetic resonance,
      • half pedaling,
      • repedaling,
      • note-off velocity support,
      • high-resolution MIDI support
      • sustain length (Ravenscroft holds the title to date)
      • ???
        At the end you have a ranking but also you know if there's a tie between several good apps.

    So as of april 2021, I honestly think the 3 best piano apps are those mentionned above.
    For now, I realize that I have Ivory Grand but not Ivory American D... :#

  • McDMcD

    @Paulo164 said:
    So as of april 2021, I honestly think the 3 best piano apps are those mentionned above.
    For now, I realize that I have Ivory Grand but not Ivory American D... :#

    I noticed that on your other comparison. The Ivory American Model D is comparable to
    Pure Piano in many respects... like Pure Piano it's a more intimate piano for solo excursions.

    Pure Piano has a richer tone and is my current #1.

    What other pianos do you have on hand? Korg's Ivory Grand is a bit meh, IMHO.
    The Crudebytes Colossus and CMP are worth owning but they are showing their age.

    UVI's Ravenscroft and BeatHawk Grand Acoustic are excellent sounding.

    iGrand which has an iPad version for $25 and an iPhone version for another $25 (which will run on the iPad with a smaller display).

    Always be on the alert for sales to add another piano to the mix. Korg does 50% off 2-3 times a year and UVI does too. IK Multimedia probably discounts iGrand(s) too.

  • Paulo164Paulo164

    @McD said:

    I noticed that on your other comparison. The Ivory American Model D is comparable to
    Pure Piano in many respects... like Pure Piano it's a more intimate piano for solo excursions.

    Yeah, I hesitated at that time between Ivory Grand (released earlier) and Ivory American D (released later). I finally ended up with Ivory Grand because it was 2 GB, so 1GB more than American Grand :D Not necessarily a clever reasonning. At that time, Korg hadn't already updated Module with the 7-day trials.

    What other pianos do you have on hand? Korg's Ivory Grand is a bit meh, IMHO.

    I only have Ivory Grand, Ravenscroft 275 and now Pure Piano. I was hesitating also one time with Beathawk Acoustic grand which is well regarded. But I have stuck notes issue in Beathawk with my keyboard so it's a no go for me.

  • McDMcD
    edited April 2021

    @Paulo164 said:

    @McD said:

    I noticed that on your other comparison. The Ivory American Model D is comparable to
    Pure Piano in many respects... like Pure Piano it's a more intimate piano for solo excursions.

    Yeah, I hesitated at that time between Ivory Grand (released earlier) and Ivory American D (released later). I finally ended up with Ivory Grand because it was 2 GB, so 1GB more than American Grand :D Not necessarily a clever reasonning. At that time, Korg hadn't already updated Module with the 7-day trials.

    What other pianos do you have on hand? Korg's Ivory Grand is a bit meh, IMHO.

    I only have Ivory Grand, Ravenscroft 275 and now Pure Piano. I was hesitating also one time with Beathawk Acoustic grand which is well regarded. But I have stuck notes issue in Beathawk with my keyboard so it's a no go for me.

    You can email me the MIDI and I'll render using the American D and send you the link to my sound upload or make the wave/mp4 available to you.

    You're in a better position to defend the merits of these great apps since you've developed your ear and can identify defects quickly. My opinions often
    change over the course of a few days depending on what qualities I'm in the mood for.

    But long sessions using headphones tend to reveal which apps are not keepers. There's a level of sonic fatigue that sets in.

  • McDMcD

    Bump.

  • McDMcD

    It looks like were headed to the finals... files are being exchanged using digital distancing protocols.

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