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Anyone else a bit sorry for ditching Gadget?

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  • @u0421793 said:
    Okay, here’s a question

    Who here got into Gadget, and also got into Ampify’s Groovebox and paid for the IAPs for that?

    I did. And I'm a fan of both apps.

  • Ditto, Groovebox is one of my most used apps by far.

  • @seonnthaproducer said:

    @u0421793 said:
    Okay, here’s a question

    Who here got into Gadget, and also got into Ampify’s Groovebox and paid for the IAPs for that?

    I did. And I'm a fan of both apps.

    Same, I actually love both of them, thought it's true I rarely use Gadget now.

  • I got the packs for Groovebox as well. For some reason the sound from Groovebox requires external speakers to sound decent in my book. It is the biggest contrast of any app I have come across. On the iPad alone Groovebox always sounds a bit lightweight and fluffy but the same pattern becomes pretty decent through speakers.

  • @robosardine said:
    I got the packs for Groovebox as well. For some reason the sound from Groovebox requires external speakers to sound decent in my book. It is the biggest contrast of any app I have come across. On the iPad alone Groovebox always sounds a bit lightweight and fluffy but the same pattern becomes pretty decent through speakers.

    Interesting. I wonder if it’s sample-rate conversion or something?

  • @robosardine said:
    I got the packs for Groovebox as well. For some reason the sound from Groovebox requires external speakers to sound decent in my book. It is the biggest contrast of any app I have come across. On the iPad alone Groovebox always sounds a bit lightweight and fluffy but the same pattern becomes pretty decent through speakers.

    Yeah what’s up with that? I use it on my iPad through my headphones and it just sort of sounds like mush even with only a couple instruments . No problem with other apps.

  • @db909 said:

    @robosardine said:
    I got the packs for Groovebox as well. For some reason the sound from Groovebox requires external speakers to sound decent in my book. It is the biggest contrast of any app I have come across. On the iPad alone Groovebox always sounds a bit lightweight and fluffy but the same pattern becomes pretty decent through speakers.

    Yeah what’s up with that? I use it on my iPad through my headphones and it just sort of sounds like mush even with only a couple instruments . No problem with other apps.

    It’s the reverb. Ampify has been hoarding all the world’s reverb in case of pandemic shortages (a bit like toilet paper hoarding), and storing it in huge quantities in Groovebox presets.

  • @purpan2 said:

    @db909 said:

    @robosardine said:
    I got the packs for Groovebox as well. For some reason the sound from Groovebox requires external speakers to sound decent in my book. It is the biggest contrast of any app I have come across. On the iPad alone Groovebox always sounds a bit lightweight and fluffy but the same pattern becomes pretty decent through speakers.

    Yeah what’s up with that? I use it on my iPad through my headphones and it just sort of sounds like mush even with only a couple instruments . No problem with other apps.

    It’s the reverb. Ampify has been hoarding all the world’s reverb in case of pandemic shortages (a bit like toilet paper hoarding), and storing it in huge quantities in Groovebox presets.

    You can always shut the effects off or tweak to taste. I find Groovebox much more useful and better sounding than Gadget. IMHO

  • edited May 2021

    I dig Gadget, I dig Groovebox. I’ve bought all the IAPs in both cases. I have also bought the rest of the self contained workstations and bought their IAPs as well.
    Not to mention all the open ended workstations and IAPs etc

    Lately, per my son’s approach actually, I’m trying to stay with only one app for production. (Along with SunVox. SunVox always, along with this one timeline style app).

    That means I’m deleting all the lovelies or hiding them from myself in folders. Including Gadget and Groovebox but not because I don’t think they’re amazing

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  • @ehehehe Sure, we have all kinds of restrictions in many iOS apps, that's the challenge when switching to iOS for making music.
    I don't mind at all to export stems for further processing in desktop software.

    I can't confirm the "EDM sound" but indeed there's probably some limiting built in that kicks in when getting closer to 0dB effective output level.

    Used purely as a groovebox it is my highest rated on ios.

    Indeed, I think that using apps for what they're best at saves me from lotsa headaches.

  • edited June 2021

    I avoided gadget way too long because of people saying it was too limited and too closed. But I absolutely and utterly adore it.

    It is some of the most fun I've had making music in a long time, and while it lacks the flexibility of drambo+ aum, the most important aspect for me is the fun factor!

    I feel like I'm playing a video game! I have the iPad version, and each gadget gives me the illusion that I'm a mad scientist; each gadget is like a different minigame, with a different UI and the end goal is to squeeze out a track I can poledance too.

    I could probably purchase and bust out serum in Ableton, but then it almost feels like I'm doing homework. Is it infinitely more versatile? Probably? But I've managed to make black metal in gadget using Lisbon and a few other synths, so gadget is no joke, and I feel like it was a joy to do so.

    When I was younger I stopped making music for a while because it started to feel like a chore. Nowadays, anything that excites me or adds that childlike wonder back into making music is worth its weight in gold.

  • @GeorgeL909 said:
    I feel like I'm playing a video game!

    With Kamata, Edina, Otorii, and Kingston you can sound like it too.😂

  • @wim said:

    @GeorgeL909 said:
    I feel like I'm playing a video game!

    With Kamata, Edina, Otorii, and Kingston you can sound like it too.😂

    No kidding!

    https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/45433/logical-fakebit-chiptune-eurodance-crossover-produced-in-gadget#latest

  • R_2R_2
    edited June 2021

    @ehehehe said:
    But it falls apart and gets tiresome as there seems to be (i’m guessing here) some kind of maximizer or compressor on the main bus, making it hard to avoid the edm-sound it seems mostly suited to.

    I don’t hear any maximizer/compressor at all (unless when the limiter/DeeMax is active). It would really bother me if it did. Mix is clean, until one passes 0dB obviously.
    Some sounds, particularly drum samples, are processed towards EDM, maybe that’s what you’re hearing.
    But (luckily) it does more than EDM, like Jazz™️ B)

    @GeorgeL909 said:
    When I was younger I stopped making music for a while because it started to feel like a chore. Nowadays, anything that excites me or adds that childlike wonder back into making music is worth its weight in gold.

    +1

  • I’m in the middle of purchasing several older iPads so that they I can have a Gadget each for jamming with (and others too - like Pure Acid, but mainly Gadget). I’m planning for it to be like a multiple choice hardware type of thing so at any time there will be only one Gadget engaged with any one iPad. Should be fun 😃...... I hope.

  • @robosardine said:
    I’m in the middle of purchasing several older iPads so that they I can have a Gadget each for jamming with (and others too - like Pure Acid, but mainly Gadget). I’m planning for it to be like a multiple choice hardware type of thing so at any time there will be only one Gadget engaged with any one iPad. Should be fun 😃...... I hope.

    👍

  • @R2 Your composition?

  • @R2 Your composition?

  • @rs2000 Jezz, my first attempt at the genre. Inspired by seeing something about Rudy van Gelder on tv. Version 2.0 had EDM drums :p

  • Gadget will always be part of my 'app-trinity' which consists of BM3, Cubasis 3 and Gadget...
    ...and to be totally honest those 3 apps would be more than enough :sunglasses:
    (Still hoping that Gadget will get AUv3 support as it would stream-line the process of 'Sampling Gadget' using BM3 & Cubasis).

  • @R_2 said:
    @rs2000 Jezz, my first attempt at the genre. Inspired by seeing something about Rudy van Gelder on tv. Version 2.0 had EDM drums :p

    I love it!! 👍🏼

  • @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    So, Gadget (well, it's called Gadget 2 now innit?) and the rest of the Korg apps have been reinstalled. I'm having a successful go in Gadget. Took me a while to remember why I didn't bother having it on my iPad for over 2 years. Then I remembered...

    1. As I started naming my tracks to mark which is which, I realised I didn't have that feature before. When did they add custom naming of tracks? 😱

    2. The "new and improved" GUI to Gadget 2 was what actually killed Gadget for me, but now that I look at it, it seems they adjusted it. I can actually see what I'm doing. When did they fix that?

    3. Most of the IFX aren't as awful as I remember. There seem to be some new ones to boot. (Okay, so the reverb still sucks, not gonna lie. 😂 When one is spoiled with Eventide, Pro-R, and even the default reverb in NS2, etc, of course the Gadget reverb will sound shite. 🤪 And the EQ still sucks, but meh.)

    But it seems that, reverb and EQ aside, things in Gadget 2 have either been improved since I last toyed with it, or aren't as bad as I remembered.

    YEAH that all came in early 2019 in a pretty major update. It was the one that touted that lazy, one press Beat Creator thing as being a thing anyone would actually care about...or use, but everything else in the update ended being really cool.

    They darkened the background ..making it easier to see the grid lines, color coded each track based on what gadget was loaded, increased the contrast on the whole UI.. etc. And they added the ability to fade in/ fade out scenes, rename tracks/scenes and change the bpm of a scene ..instantly or gradually -- a great feature.

    It included Taipei ..with CC/ midi out so you could control other apps and external gear, the i-MS 20, PolySix, and the bass amp sim. And they added some new FX ..the Feedback Reverb, Exciter, Enhancer and Saturator.

  • @BitterGums said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    So, Gadget (well, it's called Gadget 2 now innit?) and the rest of the Korg apps have been reinstalled. I'm having a successful go in Gadget. Took me a while to remember why I didn't bother having it on my iPad for over 2 years. Then I remembered...

    1. As I started naming my tracks to mark which is which, I realised I didn't have that feature before. When did they add custom naming of tracks? 😱

    2. The "new and improved" GUI to Gadget 2 was what actually killed Gadget for me, but now that I look at it, it seems they adjusted it. I can actually see what I'm doing. When did they fix that?

    3. Most of the IFX aren't as awful as I remember. There seem to be some new ones to boot. (Okay, so the reverb still sucks, not gonna lie. 😂 When one is spoiled with Eventide, Pro-R, and even the default reverb in NS2, etc, of course the Gadget reverb will sound shite. 🤪 And the EQ still sucks, but meh.)

    But it seems that, reverb and EQ aside, things in Gadget 2 have either been improved since I last toyed with it, or aren't as bad as I remembered.

    YEAH that all came in early 2019 in a pretty major update. It was the one that touted that lazy, one press Beat Creator thing as being a thing anyone would actually care about...or use, but everything else in the update ended being really cool.

    They darkened the background ..making it easier to see the grid lines, color coded each track based on what gadget was loaded, increased the contrast on the whole UI.. etc. And they added the ability to fade in/ fade out scenes, rename tracks/scenes and change the bpm of a scene ..instantly or gradually -- a great feature.

    It included Taipei ..with CC/ midi out so you could control other apps and external gear, the i-MS 20, PolySix, and the bass amp sim. And they added some new FX ..the Feedback Reverb, Exciter, Enhancer and Saturator.

    I remember the first instance of Gadget 2 where the GUI was off and an eye strain, but it does appear the GUI is just fine and dandy now which I'm thankful for. Gadget 2 is what made me jump to NS2, and oddly enough, this thread is what made me jump back to Gadget 2, and during this week, I practically completed a track per day - the quickest I've ever finished tracks on iOS. Everything in Gadget 2 is just perfect for producing most type of tracks.

    And you're right, all of the stuff you listed is just fantastic, except for the bloody one press beat creator which I completely forgot about to be honest and, after seeing what it does, couldn't care less about it. :lol:

  • quietly enjoys my 1 tap drums tracks

  • edited August 2022

    Just recycling any old Gadget thread to ask/verify what I am discovering after my VERY late adoption of Gadget (and a couple of ISPs):
    Is it not possible to transfer user presets from the standalone apps such as iWavestation or the gadgets themselves to another device?
    I am guessing with the gadgets, I can load multiple instances of a given gadget with sounds I design and then share it with my other iPad as a song and then save the presets locally that way.
    But is there a better way? And for that matter ANY way to share sounds made in the standalone apps?

  • @BirbHope said:
    Is it not possible to transfer user presets from the standalone apps such as iWavestation or the gadgets themselves to another device?
    I am guessing with the gadgets, I can load multiple instances of a given gadget with sounds I design and then share it with my other iPad as a song and then save the presets locally that way.
    But is there a better way? And for that matter ANY way to share sounds made in the standalone apps?

    With some of the gadgets you can export/import a whole bank of user presets (Lexington in attached pic). This bank will be saved to the Gadget map in files for you to access and import on the another device.

    With the standalone apps its not that easy afaik.

  • Necroing an old thread to ask if anyone knows. When did Gadget get direct Audioshare import? Was it recently because I would have definitely been using that as the sample import was one of my big annoyance points. It's now in all the sample and audio gadgets.

  • @KirbyMumbo said:
    Necroing an old thread to ask if anyone knows. When did Gadget get direct Audioshare import? Was it recently because I would have definitely been using that as the sample import was one of my big annoyance points. It's now in all the sample and audio gadgets.

    I think it was added in Gadget 2 back in 2019. I'm not certain as I'm not exactly a historian. 😅 But I'm getting the itch to use Gadget again to create Minimal Techno.

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