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Alternative BM3
Hello everyone! but a valid alternative to BM3 exists? Thank you
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For doing what?
As a DAW? As a sampler?
I make techno , so i want a daw with pattern arrange
That's not very clear. What DAW doesn't have pattern arrange? If you want meaningful help then maybe try describing what you need in a DAW in more than just one sentence. There are lots of smart and helpful people here but they can't read minds.
Any DAW can make techno, so that is no help.
It might also help if you describe why BM3 isn't working out for you.
GrooveRider 16
Or
AUM and Atom2
Or
Drambo and Atom2
Or all of the above?
None of which are really “DAWs”, but pattern arrange to your hearts content!
Drambo all day all night. The perfect Techno creation tool.
If you're looking for an MPC style alternative, then maybe Nanostudio 2, BeatHawk, or iMPC Pro 2 will appeal to you.
BeatHawk Folded e Refunded
MPC Pro 2 Folded e Refunded
GR16 a love it, but too rigid the song mode
I worked on Pc and Fl Studio, so i search for something similar
Try FL Studio Mobile then...
(You can run it for free as a plug-in on the Desktop and if you like it buy the app for iPhone or iPad).
Probably Cubasis 3 then. It's not quite the same as FL Studio but nothing on iOS is. You'll just have to get used to that and accept the limitations of DAWs on iOS.
Zenbeats is also somewhere in the middle. As a long-time FL Studio user, that's come the closest to bridging the gap for me. It does have a step sequencer somewhat like FL Studio's step sequencer. The piano roll is nowhere near as good ... but little else anywhere is.
Audio Evolution mobile is another one you might consider. I struggle with liking the way it's laid out, but it is solid, inexpensive, well supported, and does the job.
And ... GarageBand. Seriously. You have to get past all the fluff and accept some limitations, but it's not a huge leap from FL Studio if you strip away all the gimmicky stuff. And it's free.
Cubasis NO, I HATE Cubase :-D I was looking for something in which you can work on a "pattern", let me explain: I create the pattern Kick, Snare, Bassline, etc. and then "assemble them", it was so easy on Fl Studio! NS2 doesn't look too bad
Unfortunately I also have to deal with my poor iPad Air 2, too old :-( so I don't even know if I will be able to do something, or go back to the desktop PC
If you try to replicate a desktop/laptop workflow on the iPad you'll fail miserably...(at last for now).
BM3 is very capably if you give it some time and actually learn it.
Each bank can contain 128 'instruments' and with the keys you have a full piano roll for each pad if needed.
If you need a 'pattern per instrument' then you'll just create one bank per instrument.
If that's too much to handle then maybe better go back to desktop?!
BM3=Maschine
Drambo=DigiTakt and OctaTrakt
iMPC Pro2=MPC
GR16 + Korg ElectribeWave=Electribe
There is a solution in 1 of these 5 apps on the iPad. You won't be able to replicate what you do in FL Studio on iOS as it has a different way of doing things. Think MODULAR in nature
I use Ableton, Maschine and MPC on Desktop, and find Drambo to be my happy place on iOS. You will need to adapt to the platform and not approach it with a rigid mindset when it comes to workflow. Lots of fun to be had on the iPad.
I have already spoken extensively in another BM3 Thread and this madness of having to create a bank for a sound !!! When should it be done: Bank A
Pattern 1
Pattern 2
Patter 3
Bank B the same, etc.
The fact is that BM3 does it, too bad that you can't "stack" the patterns of the same bank in arrangement, with an ABSURD waste of resources, since considering that you have to create 1 sound - 1 bank, in order to stack the pattern! BM3 is good for those who have to create beats, but to arrange a song in a pattern, it is useless, or in any case cumbersome! What angers me is that I was able to play some patterns from the same bank with Pro Tracker on ... AMIGA 500 in 1994, jesus christ!
Anyway I noticed, that practically all the apps on iOS have this problem, I think it is a limitation of the operating system, otherwise it cannot be explained! Ironically I was happy with the game "RemixLive", here I can launch the patterns in time and in metric as and when I want, and not as the application decides!
Just use LaunchPad then if you just want a Clip Launcher...no subscription and plenty of SoundPacks and ability to import your own sounds...or even use BlocsWave if you enjoy RemixLive type clips launching...
I simply bought an Akai MPC One, sample from iPad and Eurorack. Would be nice if it had Airdrop 😇
Love this solution
I concur 
then we did not understand each other, and I try to give you an example: any band (from rock to electronic) plays the musical phrases "superimposed", and not in "scenes", and in fact the DAWs follow this, whether they work in a way horizontal (Cubase Style) and vertical (Ableton Style) or in "hybrid" mode (Fl Style),
I don’t think i was concurring with you since the reply was to someone else 😉
I just loved their solution.
I already provided my suggestions but i don’t think that you want to adapt to the way things work on iOS so FL on the desktop might be your solution.
Easy peezy. Go with what works for your needs. No sense in complaining about things one cannot control. It is the way it is.
I wish my OctaTrack had velocity sensitive pads and the ability to be used as a control surface for Live…but it wasn’t designed that way…so i use it the way it was designed and find my flow in that workflow.
Okay, we're leaving the topic, I guess what I'm looking for on the iPad doesn't exist, too bad :-(
Doesn’t sound that way.
It’s a great platform for a lot of people once they understand the limitations and potential.
It’s a great auv3 rack when you use the iOS synths with desktop DAWS via IDAM…Moog synths sound amazing.
ZenBeats. It’s “pattern” orientated, has Ableton-style scene/clip launching and song arrangement. Worth a try. Personally I like Drambo, just wish it had a better way of doing song structure.
There's always SunVox
I'm practically raised up with 'trackers' way back to C64 times (Chris Huelsbecks Sound Monitor for the C64 was the first 'tracker' I got when swapping floppies, after that original Sound Tracker by Karsten Obarski on the A500 etc. etc.).
Nowdays It's Renoise, SunVox and Logic with some other 'trackers' (SidFactory II, Deflemask etc.).
Being able to explode a bank pad-tracks on the timeline in BM3 has been a long-standing requests but after the development lost momentum and I guess it's buried deep down in the never ending to-do list...
(Technically each pad in a bank already has it's own pattern but it's not possible to see them in the arranger).
BM2 still has the ability to stack patterns for one bank and expose them on the time line so you have a visible pattern for each pad that can be duplicated, cloned etc. (Ie. just create a new lanes for the bank). The way BM2 works is what you described in the first post.
Cheers!
You are My Hero! I was undecided whether to take NanoStudio 2, but you convinced me to take BM2
Only downside with BM2 is that it is no longer supported and doesn't have AUv3 support.
NS2 is ok but doesn't have audio-tracks (yet) if that is something that is needed.
FL Studio Mobile might still be the best alternative if you're already used to FL Studio.
(The FL Studio Mobile Plug-In is free for the desktop version of FL Studio).
Fl Studio Mobile, it's still too immature. Since you noticed that you understand BM2, is there the possibility to import your own samples by connecting the iPad to the computer and copying to the BM2 folder?
If I recall correctly BM2 has a built-in FTP server...
...when enabled you can use any FTP Client on your computer and send over the files.
(I don't have BM2 installed at the moment).
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