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You really are feisty. You want to have a go at Floyd Mayweather too now?
He’s old right?
It was really for when just playing along to songs at home for the fun of it, being able to pull out the slide and then put on an Allman brothers song without retuning as it can take a while for the strings to hold the tuning properly. Obviously in the grand scheme of things it is a very minor inconvenience to retune, and you are right that it probably wouldn't sound as good as actually retuning, but I just wondered if it was now possible - evidently not, but I'm glad people have taken the time to reply and hopefully this clarifies things for anyone else wondering the same thing. Cheers
Haha.
You really think that makes a difference with him…?
Post of the month.
You just need more guitars.
Thread closed.
How come? That was my solution also. I've got three to keep in various tunings. I need a new guitar now though because I've got a new tuning to try.
LOL. There’s a big difference between those two words.
I kinda gotta point out that there is one iOS app that does at least try to do this. It is what CuSnP was designed to do. If you don't like the way CuSnP sounds doing the sympathetic resonances, that's going to be because of they way I programmed CuSnP to sound. There's lots of flexibility in the technique and you can get pretty much an infinite range of responses and sounds. The main point is that this part of the problem is totally trivial compared to doing the pitch retuning.
I think it would be pretty fun to try. There's all sorts of potential with just doing modulated mixing of the different pickups and coils. Since you can do noise cancellation by comparing the signals off of each of the coils, you could even bring in the individual coils of humbuckers and play around with mixing and modulation on all the whole set of coils.
That's what I expected the configuration would be. It does make the most sense for normal use of a guitar. But, I do wonder why someone like Roland hasn't done the hex-pickup and individual magnetics over USB already. A USB connection is so much easier to handle than the 13-pin setup. Cables would be cheaper too.
I don’t know of an app, but i can do exactly what you describe with my Line6 Variax guitar, and ot only change multiple tunings easily but also emulate other kinds of guitars or string instruments. You can do the craziest stuff with 1 guitar.
Hmm, and Roland has been making synths and effects processors with multi-channel audio over USB for years. With low-latency ASIO drivers.
6-mono-channels of AD conversion shouldn't be too difficult, would it? And do all the polyphonic processing in software? (Roland already has this, at least in their VG and more recent processors.)
Two people posting that the solution is more guitars? What more needs to be said after that?
Yeah, Roland has everything in place to do this easily. Six channels of AD (or eight) is easy now. TI's got good 8-channel IC's that could drop right in and handle this. If you did it with USB, then all the controls could be sent as MIDI too. This is also something Roland already has in house. It's confusing to me that they haven't already done it.
Good point.
How about...
Electric guitar in 5string G
Electric guitar in open D (capo as needed)
Acoustic guitar in DADGAD (capo as needed)
Electric guitar in Ostrich E
Lap steel in C6
?
Those are the ones in the room with me at this time.
Not so many for me - dobro in open D, 7 string in drop A, and all the rest in standard tuning.
Unlike open tunings, capo setups like that only give an open tuning feel if you play with unbarred notes. Barred chords will still be as if in standard tuning.
Interesting solution. Does anyone make a capo designed to press down a wide spread of frets? That could be an interesting product.
I feel and hear a difference between open tuning and capos on my acoustic guitars. On solid electrics I don’t notice it as much, but then open tunings don’t ring as nicely on solid electrics either.
Depends on what notes are in the chord and which strings are open. I think in general open strings ring louder and clearer than those barred or under a capo.
Even standard tuning can create some really good drones if you play a combination of open and fretted strings further up the neck than the set of chords near the nut that most people learn.
I am just trying to point out something that some people don't realize when using multi-capo or special capos that they aren't the same as playing in open tunings because the pitch of the fretted notes doesnt change. They are cool...don't get me wrong, but I've seen comments on guitar forums where people didnt realize this. They were thinking that it would be the same as actually using an open tuni g.
Ah, OK. I think you might have responded to the wrong post as mine wasn't the one about the capos.
Oops! Sorry about that. I meant to reply to the post above the one I replied to.
That’s what I thought. No worries.
I think depends on the chord “shape”, sound and the singing pitch you are going for
Hence capos are are must at times , though in technical terms it not “open”, concept remains the same
Perhaps I expressed myself poorly. What I am saying is easy to test -- it isn't a matter of opinion. Capos only affect the pitch of unfretted notes. If you make a full barre (or lay a slide across all the strings), a capo doesn't affect the pitch.
Capos are very useful. I am not disagreeing with that. Fancy capos that let you "simulate" open tunings (or the use of multiple capos) are useful for using open strings. But if you do full barres above the capo or use a slide, the presence of the capo doesn't change the pitch. So, these setups are useful but not a substitute for open tunings. If you use an open tuning, the retuning affects the fretted notes. Tune to open D and a full barre (or slide laid across all the strings) at the fifth fret gets you a G chord. This doesn't happen with capos.
Again, capos are super useful and handy. But what they do is not the same as retuning your guitar to different pitches.