iPad guitar amp app - transpose tuner to use open tunings

JeffChasteen

@espiegel123 said:

@michael_m said:

@JeffChasteen said:

@michael_m said:

@NeonSilicon said:

@michael_m said:

@Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

@Adamcw89 said:

@Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:
I'm wondering why OP wants to do this.

It was really for when just playing along to songs at home for the fun of it, being able to pull out the slide and then put on an Allman brothers song without retuning as it can take a while for the strings to hold the tuning properly.

You just need more guitars.

Thread closed.

How come? That was my solution also. I've got three to keep in various tunings. I need a new guitar now though because I've got a new tuning to try.

Two people posting that the solution is more guitars? What more needs to be said after that?

How about...
Electric guitar in 5string G
Electric guitar in open D (capo as needed)
Acoustic guitar in DADGAD (capo as needed)
Electric guitar in Ostrich E
Lap steel in C6
?
Those are the ones in the room with me at this time.

Not so many for me - dobro in open D, 7 string in drop A, and all the rest in standard tuning.

Unlike open tunings, capo setups like that only give an open tuning feel if you play with unbarred notes. Barred chords will still be as if in standard tuning.

You are correct.
Also, capos sound absolutely horrible when playing slide. The only way to go for playing slide is to tune the guitar to the desired open tuning.

jebni

@espiegel123 said:

@hisdudeness said:

@espiegel123 said:

@michael_m said:

@espiegel123 said:

@michael_m said:

@JeffChasteen said:

@michael_m said:

@NeonSilicon said:

@michael_m said:

@Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

@Adamcw89 said:

@Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:
I'm wondering why OP wants to do this.

It was really for when just playing along to songs at home for the fun of it, being able to pull out the slide and then put on an Allman brothers song without retuning as it can take a while for the strings to hold the tuning properly.

You just need more guitars.

Thread closed.

How come? That was my solution also. I've got three to keep in various tunings. I need a new guitar now though because I've got a new tuning to try.

Two people posting that the solution is more guitars? What more needs to be said after that?

How about...
Electric guitar in 5string G
Electric guitar in open D (capo as needed)
Acoustic guitar in DADGAD (capo as needed)
Electric guitar in Ostrich E
Lap steel in C6
?
Those are the ones in the room with me at this time.

Not so many for me - dobro in open D, 7 string in drop A, and all the rest in standard tuning.

Unlike open tunings, capo setups like that only give an open tuning feel if you play with unbarred notes. Barred chords will still be as if in standard tuning.

Depends on what notes are in the chord and which strings are open. I think in general open strings ring louder and clearer than those barred or under a capo.

Even standard tuning can create some really good drones if you play a combination of open and fretted strings further up the neck than the set of chords near the nut that most people learn.

I am just trying to point out something that some people don't realize when using multi-capo or special capos that they aren't the same as playing in open tunings because the pitch of the fretted notes doesnt change. They are cool...don't get me wrong, but I've seen comments on guitar forums where people didnt realize this. They were thinking that it would be the same as actually using an open tuni g.

I think depends on the chord “shape”, sound and the singing pitch you are going for

Hence capos are are must at times , though in technical terms it not “open”, concept remains the same

Perhaps I expressed myself poorly. What I am saying is easy to test -- it isn't a matter of opinion. Capos only affect the pitch of unfretted notes. If you make a full barre (or lay a slide across all the strings), a capo doesn't affect the pitch.

Capos are very useful. I am not disagreeing with that. Fancy capos that let you "simulate" open tunings (or the use of multiple capos) are useful for using open strings. But if you do full barres above the capo or use a slide, the presence of the capo doesn't change the pitch. So, these setups are useful but not a substitute for open tunings. If you use an open tuning, the retuning affects the fretted notes. Tune to open D and a full barre (or slide laid across all the strings) at the fifth fret gets you a G chord. This doesn't happen with capos.

Again, capos are super useful and handy. But what they do is not the same as retuning your guitar to different pitches.

Right on. Perhaps a good way to think about it is this: capos simply do barring for you. They change the length of open strings, but don’t actually change the tuning. If you barre yourself, you’re a playing with the original string length and tension of your guitar’s actual tuning.

Adamcw89

Thanks everyone for taking the time to make these suggestions. A partial capo across the a, d and g strings while dropping the g string a semitone seems like a reasonable way around it. Hopefully one day an app might be able do this, it would be very handy to be able to drop a semitone on all strings too for playing along with Hendrix and SRV etc for any ambitious developers reading! Cheers again