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Agreed.
I've been using an MPC Renaissance off and on over the past couple of months
and I've been getting better results from the iPad paired with my controllers.
I hear that.
"Spend more time with it" applies to anything that we've got an interest in.
I'm a dRambonaut so I'm biased in that regards.
Yeah, I hear that.
If I'm in a studio session then all I want to do is get a groove
happening at maximum spend, minimum amount of effort.
@Gravitas it does enough of what I used the OT for most of the time. I also made an arp module with StepPolyArp for drambo that basically gives me the OT arp. Both satisfy my OT needs enough that I don't really miss it.
@wim glad you dig it! What I love about drambo is that anyone can modify the modules for their own needs. Enjoy!
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I’m really looking forward to it. I’ve been digging out midi cables and preparing the way.
I think the difference this time will be a) way more familiarity with The Elektron Way after using the Digitakt, and b) a solid plan of what I want to do with it. Or how I want to use it at least.
The Digitakt is back in its box for now, but only while I get going. To begin, it’s going to be guitar+field-recorded samples.
I hope this thread continues though. It’s the most interesting hardware/software discussion I’ve read in a while, because we mostly avoided the cliches.
I think some of us are simply destined to forever track on the scenic zigzaged road to nirvana.
Other than allowing us to explore all the options, it gives us that Christmas (or equivalent) feeling when we get something new.
We’re humans after all and are here to enjoy the ride, frustrations included.
@supadom I must admit, I do feel like a kid on Christmas Eve right now.
Have you posted any videos using your Octatrack/iPad setup?
@mistercharlie
So you’re gonna record guitar, sequence rhythms, etc, all on the OT. Right?.
I own a Digitakt, which I love, but I’ve never quite managed a working, stable way to use it with the iPad. Zenbeats for audio clips and synths and the Digitakt for rhythms, glitches, etc… but I haven’t found a way to keep the two in sync to make song parts. It’s always something… the Digitakt uses program changes to switch patterns, but I can’t seem to be able to make Zenbeats listen to program changes. It’s just an example, it’s just hard to fill the gaps.
@tahiche Yes, exactly. All in the Octa, and then sending the results to Ableton for arranging. I'll also sample bits from various iPad apps into the OT.
I love the Digitakt too, but it doesn't work for the live recording I want to do. That said, it's a pretty good sound mangler. I did a lot with an LFO mapped to sample start to simulate randomized slices. I like the technique so much I plan to use it on the Octatrack.
For syncing the iPad with hardware, I also have a lot of problems. The very best I've found is BM3, which has almost perfect MIDI sync to hardware. The next best is Audiobus, but if you're using AUs, I'd try BM3 first.
That doesn't help with Zenbeats, though.
The lack of reliable sync/midi is one of the things that stops me using the iPad for deeper music work. Now I just love it for what it does, and send the results to Ableton. It'll be the same with the Octatrack. I find the Octatrack's arrangement view to be a pain, so I will just record its patterns into Ableton clips and go from there. I've found that whenever something seems to hard or fiddly to do on one box, I just find another one that does it better. For me, that means that hardware, and iPAd apps, are all like little gadgets that end up in the Ableton "tape-recorder".
Arrived! Now I have to finish work before I turn it on
Enjoy your journey @mistercharlie 😉
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@Gravitas @wim @AlmostAnonymous @rs2000 did a huge update to my whole "stop me from regretting selling my Octatrack again" journey.
https://patchstorage.com/dramboctatrack-collection/
Enjoy!
Pure genius. Thank you 👊🏼™️💕
Wow! Amazing.
My Air2 can't handle it all at once, but I'll be several nights enjoying it in parts and paring it down a bit for my poor ol' thang.
How many tracks deep can you get on your air 2? I remember when i finally upgraded from mine and it was a "holy shit, if i had only done this sooner" moment, but that was long before drambo was around.
(One day ill give it another go. I probably should just for its midi controller handling even if i dont go building the crazy stuff you guys do)
It's not how many tracks so much as what is on them. I can do quite a bit in Drambo. I usually run out of inspiration before I run out of processing power. Usually.
I usually run out of inspiration before I run out of processing power. Usually.
That made me smile. BTW I've been making regular use of your Mozaic scripts, to the extent that I don't know how I'd survive on iOS without them. Perfect utilitarian stuff, not shouty, but always essential.
Awesome.
I’ll have a play a little later today.
Thank you.
@mistercharlie
So…..
I shall presume there shall be an absence in posts
and comments from your good self for awhile.
Have fun.
See you when you return. 😁
Looks great 👍
Is there any tutorial or explanation?. I’ve never played with an OT and I can’t tell the difference between the looper and track and mono thing…
Also I’d love to know more about how you use the Digitakt to control Drambo!. I really dig those DT knobs.
@tahiche The DT knobs can send CCs plus you can record notes and p-lock knobs on the DT MIDI tracks, all mappable to almost everything in Drambo.
If you want to control more than one parameter, you can either map the same CC twice or use an intermediate knob that modulates two values.
@wim @echoopera @Gravitas my pleasure!
@tahiche They are all very similar modules, but they're setup to work slightly differently depending on what you want to do.
All of them (except the arp module) is built off the Monotrack, which is supposed to basically be 1 instance of a sampler track with all the extra stuff one would want (pitch shifting, dirt, filters, lfo, etc.). It has all 3 sampler types already built in from Drambo so you can choose what kind of sample you'll be working with.
The OctaLooper module is basically a looper that allows you to load up 8 different loops and trigger them via a different keyboard note on a single channel. The original use of this was to trigger loops with my DT during a performance. The voices are set to 2 so that if your loop has a tail, it overlaps with the next cycle and doesn't get cut off.
The DrambOctatrack module is almost the same as the OctaLooper, but it's not set up for the looping as much as just having 1 whole Octatrack on a single channel. You could load it up with 8 drum sounds and trigger them all on the same channel.
What's great about this is that you can easily modify it to fit your needs. For example, if you wanted to be able to pitch the loops up and down via the keyboard, you can add a few more modules (I forget off the top of my head) and change the note assignments for each track. Then you'd have some freedom up or down for pitching.
Maybe after my show in 2 weeks (when I can finally stop tweaking this damn live set) I'll sit down and make a video using it. I haven't actually used it too much yet as I started building it while preoccupied with other projects. Haha.
As for how I use the DT with Drambo, what @rs2000 said is pretty much it. Just assign the knobs to whatever you want in Drambo.
Thanks again @slicetwo - I'm learning so much from picking these apart. Adding in CV Modulators mapped to all the knobs and pads on my NanoKEY Studio, then linking them to the controls I want gives me haptics to work with too.
Thanks! That made my morning.
I build these things and then rarely even use them myself. 😂
It's good to hear that others get some use out of them.
Glorious! My eventual plan is to do something like that so I can have a digital OT. How's the NanoKEY studio? I've never messed with the Korg controllers.
Exactly right!
I’ve been deep into pickup machines (Octatrack’s name for loopers) with the guitar, and lots of live sampling and slicing.
Coming back to it after the Digitakt, I find the Digitakt does some things much “better” (or faster and easier), but the Octatrack is a beast! It’s also way easier to use this time around.
No music to share yet. I told myself that I won’t try to create any songs for a few weeks at least. Just screwing around and having fun. It’s incredible what you can do with a few guitar loops, a few kicks, and the crossfader.
Frustrations:
Getting levels right. I’m complicating things by using it with a mixer (Mackie), but I’m still struggling to get levels to match between recordings, and pre-loaded samples. I think I’m paying too much attention to the visual size of the waveforms.
Also, I miss the Digitakt’s reverb and ping-pong delay.
Happy discoveries:
The Octatrack now lets you trigger slices via midi keyboard/controller. It also lets you assign a midi-control type per track. So, I can have an Akai MPD 218 controlling any track with slices; a midi foot pedal controlling pickup machines, and a chromatic keyboard controlling melodic samples. This takes a little while to understand, setup-wise, but is actually dead easy to set, and is incredibly useful.
I also sampled my favorite kicks, snares, and hats from the OP-Z, into a sample chain.
Next up: using Octatrack midi to play iPad synths.
Diving back in now…
Should I say, "congrats" or "fail"?
Time will tell 😊
This, exactly my experience. Don't forget to share with us your Octajams ;-)