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Linplug sadly ceased trading in 2018. And ReFX only sell Nexus these days.
No idea about ReFX but you can still buy Linplug software.
I believe he was referring to iPad and iPhone, not iOS and desktop.
Here's confirmation ref Linplug - https://www.kvraudio.com/developer/linplug
if it is being sold it's probably via a third party, this happens a lot (the distributor doesn't tell resellers that the company was dissolved).
Ref RMV itself, I followed the RM line of plugin drum machines on the desktop from their earliest days and it never really clicked with me. But drum instruments are like guitars, what clicks for one person doesn't always connect with another.
My problem with drumcomputer is that the file storing and browsing unfortunately is sub par. No sorting or sub directories. And I am way too lazy scrolling down hundreds or thousands of samples in one tiny column.
Regarding Mixbox and SSL: there are actually two SSL comps inside it. The mixbus compressor (Bus Compressor) and a channel compresor (British Dynamics) . The first one for glueing and gentle compression and the british one for more aggressive stuff.
But my goto drum bus compressor still is the Black 76. I own most of the IKM stuff on desktop also and this one rocks. Call me a fanboy but I am a loyal IKM customer for 10 years + and never had any issues with them. Great emulations. I am so glad that I have most of them now on my iPad.
I’ll just quietly add... iPad / apps is the best drum machine I ever used and I don’t own half the apps mentioned in this thread.
No worries on the IKM brand loyalty, we all have our favourites.
I'm also a fan of the Black 76 but tend to use the UAD version of the UREI 1176 on the desktop. I'll probably pick up MixBox CS on iOS at some point as it does offer exceptional value (especially when IK are running their promotions).
Thanks for mentioning this and providing the link as well! I missed this update (or new app I guess?) but loved the first, it just needed AUV!
I agree that the sampler workflow is less than ideal, I’ll be sticking to FAC Drumkit on that front in most instances. I always need to remind myself with Sugar Bytes stuff to not get frustrated by it’s quirks and focus on that parts it does well.
Does Korg Drumlogue tick most of those boxes?
It’ll be another interesting Korg box I’m sure but it’s about time we got to see it for real. It’ll be NAMM 2022 before we see it in the wild at this rate!
I use iCloud Drive for sample management for Drumcomputer, you can’t use folders but at least you can use the Files app and sort/tag them if you want in that app. You have to turn on iCloud sync in app.
It’s weird, but I just checked DP after not using it for a long time and my samples weren’t in the list in the app.
I moved the samples from the samples user folder in the DP iCloud Drive to the “noises” folder and the samples showed up in the sample list.
Not sure if that’s a bug from a recent update as I’m sure it worked from the samples folder before....
Edit: yeah seems to be a bug, but it is working in the samples folder but sometimes the list doesn’t show/update....might have to contact SB
My hope was that after a specific amount of samples drumcomputer would add another folder as stated in the manual on Page 13 in the wavetable section: „ The resulting wavetables will be auto-saved into a user folder that will be generated. After 32 wavetables, the next user folder will be created (user1, user2 etc).“ But maybe that works only for wavetables and Drumcomputer handles this internally. Unfortunately it doesn’t work for samples. I have tried it manually (user1 etc) but with the same result.
Maybe we should contact SB and ask for refinement.
The other really annoying thing in DrumComputer is when you’re cursoring through samples/wavetables, DC jumps between categories. If you want to be sure you’re previewing everything in each category, you have go through the drop down every time. I find these little niggles with all of SB’s products. They can be joyful and frustrating in equal measure!
Yeah, I have asked them for sample folder implementation, but send them another request anyway. I think all their apps rely on the same code and so it might take a while for them to get around to it.
I hear you. 😀
That’s the reason why I mostly use GR16 for drums because importing samples (even whole folders with subdirectories) work like a charm and you can switch samples on the fly. I dunno why other drum apps don’t work that way. Plus importing whole folders with thousands of samples just take a few seconds. Plus it is the only drum app which comes with multiple grooves like MPC etc.
Now that's very interesting, I wasn't aware of this drum app, but if it has folder import and on the fly sample switching like FAC Drumkit, I'll definitely be checking it out!
From the manual:
"Each Part has its own Filter with unique settings." Now this is sounding promising...
Agreed.
One of my iPads is a dedicated drum machine and sampler amongst many other things.
I’m intrigued by GR16 too. Have heard great things about it. 2 things keeping me from jumping in:
It’s not a drum app but a groove box. One drawback so far is that it only supports mono channels. It’s not a real dealbreaker for me because most of my samples are mono. But GR16 has such a great workflow once you get it. Super fast once you accept some of the limitations.
If you mean round robin or velocity layering than yeah, GR 16 dos not support it. But you can do way more than techno with it.
GR16 has much to commend it but I’m simply not looking for a groove box - and is it just me, boy the UI on the thing is fugly!
Lolololol....
I said that about Thafknar once upon a time.
After a series of experiments?
I now regularly use it for my IR's.
So I shall reserve comment. Lololololol.
Patterning 2 the ability to nudge and send elements counterclockwise in a pattern
can lead to some unorthodox outcomes that cannot be done in any other drum machine except perhaps an Electron box
If you used Koala to chop and send the samples to Patterning for sequencing then back to Koala FX or a DAW ...nuff said!
It has 16 pads that can either be used for samples or the built in wavetable Synthesizer. And maybe it has not the fanciest gui but it is highly functional. I should make a video and another thread how I use it so other people could take a closer look at it but boy, this thing is deep (eg you can make a one bar loop sound like a four bar loop with some clever mechanics…or drumrolls). What I like is that you only have one window and not multiple tabs to do everything you need.
Yeah, patterning 2 is the other drum app I use. I also have digitstix 1 & 2 and SeekBeats and elastic drums but none of them is so fast and easy like GR16. At least for me.
Patterning 2 will always have a place in my iOS beat making setup. It’s something I tend to turn to when I need to get out of a rut. It’s always interesting to swap tools mid project to see where it takes you and Patterning 2 is one of those apps that makes me approach what I’m doing with a fresh mindset. It’s not for every project but it’s fun each time I dig in again.
It’s obvious by now that Patterning 2 isnt’ going to be converted to AUv3 but that’s not much of an issue for me personally other that the single instance aspect. The tiiming is tight and it provides multiple outs so that works for me.
Elastic Drums saddens me as it has a really good synth engine (and the step sequencer is fairly decent too). Such a pity that it’s had no real updates in 2 years (plenty of bug fixes but no new innovations).
I'm liking GR-16 a LOT! Sample folder import, check. Filter & ADSR per sample, check. Insert effect per sample, check. Waveform editing and instant reverse, check. It may well be a groovebox, but I can certainly see me using this as my 'Battery' replacement, purely with drum samples (1 AUv3 instance per percussion type - snares, hats, kicks etc.)
Mono sample is not a big issue for me, I'll use the sample panning coupled with manual layering to create some stereo width if needed.
@jonmoore - Personally I like the UI! - I've gone for 'Jet Black' colour scheme myself. There's LOADS of choices in there, including 'custom'.
I was about to say Elastic Drums, al lot of people seem to like, but then i saw your comment lol.
For me it sounds similar to Drumcomputer but not so freaky harsh like DC(the weirdness i appreciate in DC). Apart from the Randomize feature in Elastic Drums i find that Drambo can do all those things for me.