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The RME Fireface UCX II is the best Audiointerface for iPad (and Desktop)! (?)

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  • @ipadbeatmaking said:

    @dvi said:
    I saw the title of this post as I wait for my new Motu M4 and had that heat flash associated with buyer's regret—until I saw what the Fireface goes for.... totally different leagues. But with 4x4, midi I/O, DC-Coupled outputs and class-compliant USB A/C, I think the Motu can hold some ground. I have no clue about what some of the outputs in the Fireface are supposed to do, anyway. An iOS app like the RME would be useful, though!

    The Motu M4 is a total win. Regret nothing with buying it. You made the right decision! Also, the Motu is just fine without an app. Everything is on-board (other than loopback on iOS, I think) Just use your DAW to configure all the routing and you’re golden.

    It arrived just after posting this—I’m loving it! Not sure if the post about the monitors was addressed to me but it’s true that I need them, although in my current space arrangement I have to do everything through headphones for now. It works very smoothly with my iPad Air 3, even better than with the M1 MacBook. The one thing I don’t like about the Motu so far is that it doesn’t have stereo inputs so I’ll need to get an adapter or two, but I realize this is standard practice. Good stuff!

  • @ipadbeatmaking
    I dont thinkmits gonna go back to that 899 price i saw. I mean, it didnt even make any sense being so close to what the babyface is costing.

  • I do wish more interfaces implemented a usb host/hub on them. Its one of the great things about thenaudiofuse, but everyone here knows my feelings twards artuira.

  • From Apogee:

    We are pleased to announce M1 support for Apple silicon Macs is now available for Symphony I/O Mk I USB and ThunderBridge. ****pic.twitter.com/6klYnpnXrB

    — Apogee Electronics (@apogeedigital) September 23, 2021

    Maybe Apogee is changing their ways. There was rumors this was getting dropped. Hopefully they keep that same energy going forward.

    @AlmostAnonymous said:
    @ipadbeatmaking
    I dont thinkmits gonna go back to that 899 price i saw. I mean, it didnt even make any sense being so close to what the babyface is costing.

    I agree.

    @dvi said:

    @ipadbeatmaking said:

    @dvi said:
    I saw the title of this post as I wait for my new Motu M4 and had that heat flash associated with buyer's regret—until I saw what the Fireface goes for.... totally different leagues. But with 4x4, midi I/O, DC-Coupled outputs and class-compliant USB A/C, I think the Motu can hold some ground. I have no clue about what some of the outputs in the Fireface are supposed to do, anyway. An iOS app like the RME would be useful, though!

    The Motu M4 is a total win. Regret nothing with buying it. You made the right decision! Also, the Motu is just fine without an app. Everything is on-board (other than loopback on iOS, I think) Just use your DAW to configure all the routing and you’re golden.

    It arrived just after posting this—I’m loving it! Not sure if the post about the monitors was addressed to me but it’s true that I need them, although in my current space arrangement I have to do everything through headphones for now. It works very smoothly with my iPad Air 3, even better than with the M1 MacBook. The one thing I don’t like about the Motu so far is that it doesn’t have stereo inputs so I’ll need to get an adapter or two, but I realize this is standard practice. Good stuff!

    Im glad you’re loving it! Theres a stereo input on the front (channels 1-2) and rear (channels 3-4) unless I’m misunderstanding you

  • @ipadbeatmaking said:

    The Motu M4 is a total win. Regret nothing with buying it. You made the right decision! Also, the Motu is just fine without an app. Everything is on-board (other than loopback on iOS, I think) Just use your DAW to configure all the routing and you’re golden.

    Can you pair those front input into one stereo channel? If so, do you have to balance L+R by using the separate gain knobs for each?

  • @0tolerance4silence said:

    @AlmostAnonymous said:

    @0tolerance4silence said:
    Imo, they are the best ...........

    Anytime i hear people talk about converters, I think of this....lol

    Especially these days... :)
    Though most iPad musicians don’t use outboard processors, barely even record anything.
    Apogee comes up here often mostly because they are pretty, and they fit pretty iPads :)

    Or maybe because they actually sound great? 🤔

  • @mistercharlie said:

    @ipadbeatmaking said:

    The Motu M4 is a total win. Regret nothing with buying it. You made the right decision! Also, the Motu is just fine without an app. Everything is on-board (other than loopback on iOS, I think) Just use your DAW to configure all the routing and you’re golden.

    Can you pair those front input into one stereo channel? If so, do you have to balance L+R by using the separate gain knobs for each?

    Yes you can. I don't know of a way to 'link' the channels volumes so yes you'll need to manually match the knobs. Next, In a DAW I make a stereo track with 'inputs 1-2'

  • @ipadbeatmaking said:

    @mistercharlie said:

    @ipadbeatmaking said:

    The Motu M4 is a total win. Regret nothing with buying it. You made the right decision! Also, the Motu is just fine without an app. Everything is on-board (other than loopback on iOS, I think) Just use your DAW to configure all the routing and you’re golden.

    Can you pair those front input into one stereo channel? If so, do you have to balance L+R by using the separate gain knobs for each?

    Yes you can. I don't know of a way to 'link' the channels volumes so yes you'll need to manually match the knobs. Next, In a DAW I make a stereo track with 'inputs 1-2'

    They show up in AUM et al. as one stereo track—actually two: 1+2, 3+4; not sure how the gain knobs work since I haven’t tried it. I was probably unclear in my post (and in any case it’s not very important), but what I meant is I wish there was an input that would take a TRS stereo jack in directly. I want to bring in my second iPad into the interface so I’ll have to buy or build a splitter adapter. No big deal, in any case!

  • @dvi said:

    @ipadbeatmaking said:

    @mistercharlie said:

    @ipadbeatmaking said:

    The Motu M4 is a total win. Regret nothing with buying it. You made the right decision! Also, the Motu is just fine without an app. Everything is on-board (other than loopback on iOS, I think) Just use your DAW to configure all the routing and you’re golden.

    Can you pair those front input into one stereo channel? If so, do you have to balance L+R by using the separate gain knobs for each?

    Yes you can. I don't know of a way to 'link' the channels volumes so yes you'll need to manually match the knobs. Next, In a DAW I make a stereo track with 'inputs 1-2'

    They show up in AUM et al. as one stereo track—actually two: 1+2, 3+4; not sure how the gain knobs work since I haven’t tried it. I was probably unclear in my post (and in any case it’s not very important), but what I meant is I wish there was an input that would take a TRS stereo jack in directly. I want to bring in my second iPad into the interface so I’ll have to buy or build a splitter adapter. No big deal, in any case!

    I've had a MOTU M4 since it was first released. It's an excellent interface in every way.

    If your second iPad has a headphone out, you'll want something like this: https://www.amazon.com/UGREEN-Splitter-Compatible-Computer-Multimedia/dp/B00ZKM3SHK

    For your application, I recommend using the rear inputs 3 & 4 on the MOTU box. They're at a fixed line level so you won't need to mess with the front panel gain knobs. Set up the channel in AUM and adjust the volume on the second iPad so you get a strong signal without overloading.

  • @Schmotown said:

    @dvi said:

    @ipadbeatmaking said:

    @mistercharlie said:

    @ipadbeatmaking said:

    The Motu M4 is a total win. Regret nothing with buying it. You made the right decision! Also, the Motu is just fine without an app. Everything is on-board (other than loopback on iOS, I think) Just use your DAW to configure all the routing and you’re golden.

    Can you pair those front input into one stereo channel? If so, do you have to balance L+R by using the separate gain knobs for each?

    Yes you can. I don't know of a way to 'link' the channels volumes so yes you'll need to manually match the knobs. Next, In a DAW I make a stereo track with 'inputs 1-2'

    They show up in AUM et al. as one stereo track—actually two: 1+2, 3+4; not sure how the gain knobs work since I haven’t tried it. I was probably unclear in my post (and in any case it’s not very important), but what I meant is I wish there was an input that would take a TRS stereo jack in directly. I want to bring in my second iPad into the interface so I’ll have to buy or build a splitter adapter. No big deal, in any case!

    I've had a MOTU M4 since it was first released. It's an excellent interface in every way.

    Yes it is. It’s value keeps showing itself in new ways. I still can’t believe it’s under $250.

    I’ll add this for the sake of those in the market for an interface: I’ve Been testing the m4 side by side the Audient id14 Mkii and the Apogee Symphony Desktop for the past 24 hours. The m4 smokes the Audient id14 Mkii on Preamp gain, and it’s not even close. Driving an RE20 (dynamic mic) takes 90-100% of the Audient gain and the only 50-60% of the M4 gain. I’m actually kinda shocked and feel like I must be doing something wrong, or the unit is bad (?) so I’ll keep rechecking.

    Maybe an Audient Mkii user can chime in.

    The Audient is also plagued with what I believe to be bus power issues where the headphone jack(s) max out at different volumes depending on what usb cable type you use (c to c or c to a). This is a Big problem for us hub users as most hubs use usb-a to connect peripherals. I’ve also heard about clicks, pops, and crazy mic volume jumps on the preamps when using the usb-a cable.

    The Audient has some really nice ‘flavor’ on the preamps however, and for condensers, which require less gain, I think the vocals will sit nicely in a mix. The conversion on it so far is also pretty nice, arguably ‘smoother’ than the M4, but it’s too early to tell.

  • @ipadbeatmaking said:

    @mistercharlie said:

    @ipadbeatmaking said:

    The Motu M4 is a total win. Regret nothing with buying it. You made the right decision! Also, the Motu is just fine without an app. Everything is on-board (other than loopback on iOS, I think) Just use your DAW to configure all the routing and you’re golden.

    Can you pair those front input into one stereo channel? If so, do you have to balance L+R by using the separate gain knobs for each?

    Yes you can. I don't know of a way to 'link' the channels volumes so yes you'll need to manually match the knobs. Next, In a DAW I make a stereo track with 'inputs 1-2'

    👍

  • @Schmotown said:

    @dvi said:

    @ipadbeatmaking said:

    @mistercharlie said:

    @ipadbeatmaking said:

    The Motu M4 is a total win. Regret nothing with buying it. You made the right decision! Also, the Motu is just fine without an app. Everything is on-board (other than loopback on iOS, I think) Just use your DAW to configure all the routing and you’re golden.

    Can you pair those front input into one stereo channel? If so, do you have to balance L+R by using the separate gain knobs for each?

    Yes you can. I don't know of a way to 'link' the channels volumes so yes you'll need to manually match the knobs. Next, In a DAW I make a stereo track with 'inputs 1-2'

    They show up in AUM et al. as one stereo track—actually two: 1+2, 3+4; not sure how the gain knobs work since I haven’t tried it. I was probably unclear in my post (and in any case it’s not very important), but what I meant is I wish there was an input that would take a TRS stereo jack in directly. I want to bring in my second iPad into the interface so I’ll have to buy or build a splitter adapter. No big deal, in any case!

    I've had a MOTU M4 since it was first released. It's an excellent interface in every way.

    If your second iPad has a headphone out, you'll want something like this: https://www.amazon.com/UGREEN-Splitter-Compatible-Computer-Multimedia/dp/B00ZKM3SHK

    For your application, I recommend using the rear inputs 3 & 4 on the MOTU box. They're at a fixed line level so you won't need to mess with the front panel gain knobs. Set up the channel in AUM and adjust the volume on the second iPad so you get a strong signal without overloading.

    Ordered—thank you! This has opened my set up in fantastic ways, since now I can use the main iPad as a dedicated effects box for the synths (and mixer) and the second iPad running GR-16 or Drambo as a dedicated groovebox. Now I need to learn more about gain staging and all that jam!

  • @dvi If you have any questions about setting this up (gain, etc.) I'd be glad to help if I can as I'm sure others here would.

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