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8 tracks instead of 4. Absolute randomisation and locking of all aspects of every track. Mixer section. Pad play section. Very, very slick drum kit setting up / importing etc and management. Enhanced preset menu, are the sorts of things I am seeing that I like. I can’t actually think of anything it won’t do. There is talk of individual outs- but I’m no sure if that’s a thing or not.
I don’t think it has actual choke groups, but it has settings that will not allow two hits playing at the same time.
Im going to bed now, but I’ll be getting it tomorrow.
Morning everyone 😀 I was just thinking as I was drifting off. One thing it won’t do of course is play back the nice pattens that you have randomised in an order of your choosing as per a song mode, you have to actually be on top of it to select them. Pity that... would be nice.
You can midi map the pattern selects so you could roll your own song mode with an external sequencer
It’s in the bundle now https://apps.apple.com/ca/app-bundle/creative-plugins-bundle/id1594875158
it’s 20$ for me even I own all other apps
That’s the old bundle chestnut. You must have picked the others up in a sale or intro offer.
Also, scroll down and back up again as that used to make a difference with bundles showing the right price.
Maybe I see it because I check it on my iphone
No discount for me in this bundle, even though I only got playbeat in June this year, seems a bit off pulling it from the store when they’re still active as a developer…
I also have all three apps already and the bundle is now 13 for me (for just the missing playbeat 3, basically), whereas playbeat 3 alone is 9.99. So here goes another thumbs up for audiomodern, well played guys. 👍
The developer gave a very sensible explanation on page 2 of this thread.
I gave up on this dev a while ago…
I’m not sure it made sense in my view, as a new user I’m basically left high and dry…
I understand that with the App Store model there’ll likely be winners and losers, this one didn’t go my way 🙃😁
I bought the original app and then got version 2 for free as an upgrade.
This version has a large number of new features and it is fair to call it a new app and charge again. So I'm not bitter.
Will I buy it again? I'm not sure. The original did pretty much all I needed. So maybe not. That's the risk the developer takes creating a new app that might not sell in the same numbers as the first version.
But yeah, depending on what you buy and when there can sometimes be winners and losers. I'm happy as it is a cool app and runs fine on modern iOS and does everything it did when I first bought it.
And to give AudioModern credit, they have a few nice free apps that they give away.
Yeah, you’re right; it’s just not a great look when it disappears from the store, it’s still in my purchased list for now so I can install on a new device, as long as the OS doesn’t get ahead of it…
This. Pricewise, I absolutely think they should ask for whatever price they want, it's their product and their call, I'm happy with that and buy it not buy it accordingly.
Bundlewise, the exact same thing being more expensive in the bundle than in itself is an appstore quirk, not quite the same as the bundle not offering "the expected discount".
What seems a bit unfortunate is that they say v3 is a new product when it justifies payment, but they say it's a new version of the same thing when they remove the old version from the store. If v3 is a different product, why not leave v2 there, explaining that it won't be developed further? Lots of examples for this in the app store, so it's not an impossibility. No need to make things inconvenient for your paying customers of the earlier playbeat version.
I'm a huge fan of the audiomodern apps but I think I'll skip this one. I was not really using Playbeat 2. For my beatmaking I am very happy with the combination of FAC Drumkit and polybeat which gives me similar options to modulate, randomize and mutate the beat. Well, it's missing the locking features of Audiomodern apps but on the other hand FAC Drumkit has a much better audio engine with multi-out and its envelopes are pure dope.
Regarding audiomodern's software life cycle scheme I think this is what totally makes sense on iOS for a sustainable business model. We all know that it's hard to do that on out sweet little platform. The initial sales are so important. My guess is that removing PB2 from the appstore also means end-of-life for it and I don't expect any further bugfixes. I think some overlap would have been better but I acknowledge that maintaining two versions is costly. But most of all I'd wish that this would be clearly communicated - a kind of end-of-life notice for PB2. I agree with @ervin that they could have left PB2 in the store but declare it discontinued. Probably 1 star reviews were keeping them away from that. If my assumptions are true, a discount code for people who recently bought PB2 would be fair.
Same here. I have all their apps and got Playbeat not to long ago. I’d expect to get a discount as a buyer of v2. It just feels ... wrong. I’ll not get v3 for now, only when it goes on sale. A lot of emotions go into our buying decisions, it’s almost childish but I can’t help myself
I don't know if they can do that within the limitations of how the app store works.
How would they know who gets a discount? Apple knows who bought the version 2 app but I don't think the developers do...?
They could have left v2 in the app store for some time (like a grace period for existing users) and make a bundle with v3, I guess?
Yeah, that would have worked
I’m getting a lot of complete freezing with this app, and it won’t even reload requiring an AUM restart - anyone else?
It’s all very tiny writing on the iPad isn’t it? I feel like I’m pushing around crumbs with a toothpick.
The new enhancements and features make this version totally worth the $9.99 asking price. I picked it up on day one and am really enjoying everything about it.
I used PlayBeat2 a lot but i find this version so much more useful for my needs. The Free ElectroniSound Sound Pack alone is worth the price of this new version. That pack has some wonderful samples and sequences in it.
The way i see it, we get some really great new features and a killer sound pack all for the price of $9.99. The dollar sure doesn’t go that far these days if you look at Gas prices, but this version was definitely a bargain in my book.
Not to mention the obvious that we’re also getting a full desktop level quality app for $9.99 instead of $49.99. It’s the exact same app. No missing functionality. It’s even cheaper than the desktop upgrade of $19.99.
Sometimes i think these small boutiques should just double their prices on iOS. But i know they want to onboard as many users as possible while keeping the lights on…but i often wonder if it’s worth entertaining the low price end of the market on the platform when what they offer is truly desktop quality experiences on the platform. I just feel guilty sometimes that we are offered such power and performance for such a low bar of entry.
So this has:
Lockable lanes, random infinity mode, drum pad to tap things in, sample import, mappable sample start/offset position, AU.
As far as I know, no other app has those?
Dev said:
"A Bundle Upgrade still wouldn't work as the review guidelines don't allow that. No app can be replaced with another on the very same bundle, so we would need to keep the older Playbeat version in the same bundle too, which will obviously result in a higher price of the Bundle."
I’ve seen instances where there’s a single app in multiple bundles, so it’s a choice as far as I can tell. Similarly to you, I don’t use it much anyway, so probably won’t upgrade, it’s just the hiding it from the store that seems daft to me
I hope this gets au params exposed at some point. Also, would love to be able to use it as a midi plugin.
Yeah, I think I've seen that too.
I think Atom 2 was in a bundle with Atom for some time? I’m pretty sure that I’ve seen this kind of upgrade bundles.
Just here to share another example of use for this app from a psytrance perspective 👽👾👽
Very glitchy sound