Playbeat 3 by AUDIOMODERN

lukesleepwalker

Very well said, @echoopera !

Paulinko

@robosardine said:
I’m getting a lot of complete freezing with this app, and it won’t even reload requiring an AUM restart - anyone else?

Electronisounds did a 2 hour live stream video on the app and it crashed three times. Hopefully the developer will be able to squash the bugs. Even if the app isn’t completely stable, being able to export loops of audio and/or MIdI does make it very useful for exporting into other apps or DAWs. Importing MIDI into Atom 2 could be a viable work around for its MIDI drift problems.

eylvy

kc2dpt

I’m a big fan of Playbeat2 so I finally pulled the trigger and bought PB3. I’m liking all the new features, but…

a] It crashes quite a bit so save your work from time to time. (One I can replicate consistently is trying to lock each track to a fixed note.)

b] It has timing issues. If you leave it running for a few minutes it will become noticeably off beat. Riffer has the same issue. Basically, these apps are fine for generating a sequence and then exporting or recording it into a DAW, but unusable for performing.

Even so, I don’t regret my purchase. Playbeat has great features and I’m sure the bugs will be worked out eventually.

Bon_Tempi

@Simon said:

@Krupa said:

Dev said:

"A Bundle Upgrade still wouldn't work as the review guidelines don't allow that. No app can be replaced with another on the very same bundle, so we would need to keep the older Playbeat version in the same bundle too, which will obviously result in a higher price of the Bundle."

Fabfilter were abled to set up a proper bundle - Atom was abled, too -

so I am not sure if the AppStore and its guidelines is to blame here ,,,

plus the reports about PB3 not being stable —- to be honest - this combination keeps me away from buying it ...

Especially since PB2 had issues until the end - and kept crashing for me - especially in combination with Cubasis

Although I must say that I love the concept and look of their apps ...

But just removing the app - not offering a proper bundle and a version which is laggy ... hmmmm.

MAtrixplan

@Bon_Tempi said:

@Simon said:

@Krupa said:

Dev said:

"A Bundle Upgrade still wouldn't work as the review guidelines don't allow that. No app can be replaced with another on the very same bundle, so we would need to keep the older Playbeat version in the same bundle too, which will obviously result in a higher price of the Bundle."

Fabfilter were abled to set up a proper bundle - Atom was abled, too -

so I am not sure if the AppStore and its guidelines is to blame here ,,,

yeah @Audiomodern can You explain why others could do that and You couldn't ?

echoopera

I’m running playbeat3 all day all night on iPadOS and macOS without issue for my setup. Haven’t really noticed any “instability” issues.

There have been a couple updates since release.

The price is fair for what is being offered in the app…not to mention the Free Sound Packs which come with it.

And the app is not “laggy” as you imply. It runs smoothly from my experience with it.

Foleslaw

Anyone knows how to import multiple samples into Playbeat 3 library at once? I'm thinking of the AUv3 version specifically.
In standalone there is this Shared Samples folder that you can simply copy new sample subfolders to via Files. The problem is that AUv3 cannot read the Shared Samples folder (as to iOS limitations apparently)
Maybe there's some other way that I'm missing? Or you can only load one sample at a time by pressing '+' under each of the 8 tracks?

Audiomodern

Hello People! We I hope you're doing well and keeping safe.

We're super excited to introduce you to our brand-new 'SMART' algorithm, a revolutionary new technology developed over the past year by the brightest minds of Audiomodern.

We're taking a unique step into a new field of A.I. for music production software. You can now train the app to learn your preferred patterns with your day-to-day activity, the app then adapts to your own style and it generates personalized patterns to achieve the perfect user experience. In this way, as you improve, it becomes more advanced to suit your needs.

SMART Algorithm is now featured on Playbeat 3.1.0 update which is available now along with three FREE Packs!

More info:

Packs:
https://audiomodern.com/playbeat-packs/

echoopera

Great. Now my Apps will be judging my performance capabilities 😜

J/k. Sounds exciting. I love having the machine give me inspiration to build off of. Congrats on this release. Looking forward to testing it. 👊🏼™️

Btw: the starter kits you offer for PlayBeat are fantastic and i can’t believe that they are being offered for Free. Such great samples in these 3 packs.

This is just so SICK!! I love it! Just had a play with generating some new patterns based on Smart Kits....WOW!

Great job....

Secret Weapon Level Stuff here @Audiomodern

Audiomodern

@echoopera said:
Great. Now my Apps will be judging my performance capabilities 😜

J/k. Sounds exciting. I love having the machine give me inspiration to build off of. Congrats on this release. Looking forward to testing it. 👊🏼™️

Btw: the starter kits you offer for PlayBeat are fantastic and i can’t believe that they are being offered for Free. Such great samples in these 3 packs.

This is just so SICK!! I love it! Just had a play with generating some new patterns based on Smart Kits....WOW!

Great job....

Secret Weapon Level Stuff here @Audiomodern

Thanks for your feedback!

robosardine

How are the people finding the new Smart Algorithmn? Is it really smart? I’m thinking that if it was really that smart then the people would be all over it…… or maybe the experience with the one that wasn’t as smart as it thought has put them off trying it now. Is it time for a fanfare? ….. I haven’t heard one yet.
Maybe you have so many drum machines it’s like walking in a marsh now and it’s too much effort to pull your ankle out and plop it down to give it a go?

echoopera

I love it. Been using it a ton since the release. Makes me really love the app even more. All my latest YouTube tracks feature the Smart generator for my drums.

I love mixing styles together to see what it spawns.

Example of drums:

Ailerom

I'm a big fan of Playbeat. Disappointed when I realised it was their only app that is not on the iPhone. Whhhhyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

robosardine

@echoopera said:
I love it. Been using it a ton since the release. Makes me really love the app even more. All my latest YouTube tracks feature the Smart generator for my drums.

I love mixing styles together to see what it spawns.

Example of drums:

Yeah - it all sounds good 😃👍

jonmoore

@Audiomodern

Something that would be really useful with the new "Smart" randomisation functionality would be the ability to set up multiple "Smart" data sets. I produce music across a very wide variety of genres and rhythm programming is one of the most critical differentiators across those genres.

A single "homogenised" Smart data set will be problematic a lot of the time. Maybe the Smart configuration options could be linked to the genres within the library (and the three genre slots could have a stronger impact on the randomisation based on genre slot position).

I'd also love to see individual hit locks. I know that Density has a bearing on this but often certain hits are critical to maintaining the core grove, but you still want randomised fill hits around the core groove hits.

But I have to say, the new Smart functionality elevates Playbeat from a chance-based inspiration toolset to a dare I say it, a smarter, more usable pattern variations toolset. The overarching theme of controlled randomisation ends up making Playbeat a far more practical and musical tool.

Audiomodern

@jonmoore said:
@Audiomodern

Something that would be really useful with the new "Smart" randomisation functionality would be the ability to set up multiple "Smart" data sets. I produce music across a very wide variety of genres and rhythm programming is one of the most critical differentiators across those genres.

A single "homogenised" Smart data set will be problematic a lot of the time. Maybe the Smart configuration options could be linked to the genres within the library (and the three genre slots could have a stronger impact on the randomisation based on genre slot position).

I'd also love to see individual hit locks. I know that Density has a bearing on this but often certain hits are critical to maintaining the core grove, but you still want randomised fill hits around the core groove hits.

But I have to say, the new Smart functionality elevates Playbeat from a chance-based inspiration toolset to a dare I say it, a smarter, more usable pattern variations toolset. The overarching theme of controlled randomisation ends up making Playbeat a far more practical and musical tool.

Thanks a lot for your feedback.

This is already a requested feature and as we keep improving this new system and integrating it to our other tools, we will be adding multiple 'SMART' folders as well as the option for the Algorithm to also take into account the genre tagging that is already available with the presets.

Audiomodern

@CapnWillie said:
Does this support multi-out? If not, will it ever?
Does this really drift? If so, why has it not been addressed or acknowledged by @Audiomodern ?

Hello,
Multi-out is currently supported only on the Desktop version, but we work on having this to our upcoming update on iOS too.
We have updated our engine so any drift should be solved with the latest 3.1.

There is an update on the Discussion about MIDI Sequencer(s) & timing here: https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/46251/let-s-talk-about-midi-sequencer-timing

jonmoore

@Audiomodern said:

@jonmoore said:
@Audiomodern

Something that would be really useful with the new "Smart" randomisation functionality would be the ability to set up multiple "Smart" data sets. I produce music across a very wide variety of genres and rhythm programming is one of the most critical differentiators across those genres.

A single "homogenised" Smart data set will be problematic a lot of the time. Maybe the Smart configuration options could be linked to the genres within the library (and the three genre slots could have a stronger impact on the randomisation based on genre slot position).

I'd also love to see individual hit locks. I know that Density has a bearing on this but often certain hits are critical to maintaining the core grove, but you still want randomised fill hits around the core groove hits.

But I have to say, the new Smart functionality elevates Playbeat from a chance-based inspiration toolset to a dare I say it, a smarter, more usable pattern variations toolset. The overarching theme of controlled randomisation ends up making Playbeat a far more practical and musical tool.

Thanks a lot for your feedback.

This is already a requested feature and as we keep improving this new system and integrating it to our other tools, we will be adding multiple 'SMART' folders as well as the option for the Algorithm to also take into account the genre tagging that is already available with the presets.

Thanks for the reply. Great to hear those features are on the road map.

Any thoughts regarding the individual hit locks idea. I visualized them as something that could be enabled via a long press, and the UI might indicate a lock via a dot in the center of the circles that indicate hits. That way you're getting good visual feedback without cluttering the UI.

Audiomodern

@jonmoore said:

@Audiomodern said:

@jonmoore said:
@Audiomodern

Something that would be really useful with the new "Smart" randomisation functionality would be the ability to set up multiple "Smart" data sets. I produce music across a very wide variety of genres and rhythm programming is one of the most critical differentiators across those genres.

A single "homogenised" Smart data set will be problematic a lot of the time. Maybe the Smart configuration options could be linked to the genres within the library (and the three genre slots could have a stronger impact on the randomisation based on genre slot position).

I'd also love to see individual hit locks. I know that Density has a bearing on this but often certain hits are critical to maintaining the core grove, but you still want randomised fill hits around the core groove hits.

But I have to say, the new Smart functionality elevates Playbeat from a chance-based inspiration toolset to a dare I say it, a smarter, more usable pattern variations toolset. The overarching theme of controlled randomisation ends up making Playbeat a far more practical and musical tool.

Thanks a lot for your feedback.

This is already a requested feature and as we keep improving this new system and integrating it to our other tools, we will be adding multiple 'SMART' folders as well as the option for the Algorithm to also take into account the genre tagging that is already available with the presets.

Thanks for the reply. Great to hear those features are on the road map.

Any thoughts regarding the individual hit locks idea. I visualized them as something that could be enabled via a long press, and the UI might indicate a lock via a dot in the center of the circles that indicate hits. That way you're getting good visual feedback without cluttering the UI.

Hi, Individual lock on steps is already available. Simply click on the 'Lock' button which is right next to the MIN/MAX input area and while this is engaged you may click and lock any individual step. At any point you want to reset these, simply click on the reset arrow icon next to it.

jonmoore

@Audiomodern said:

@jonmoore said:

@Audiomodern said:

@jonmoore said:
@Audiomodern

Something that would be really useful with the new "Smart" randomisation functionality would be the ability to set up multiple "Smart" data sets. I produce music across a very wide variety of genres and rhythm programming is one of the most critical differentiators across those genres.

A single "homogenised" Smart data set will be problematic a lot of the time. Maybe the Smart configuration options could be linked to the genres within the library (and the three genre slots could have a stronger impact on the randomisation based on genre slot position).

I'd also love to see individual hit locks. I know that Density has a bearing on this but often certain hits are critical to maintaining the core grove, but you still want randomised fill hits around the core groove hits.

But I have to say, the new Smart functionality elevates Playbeat from a chance-based inspiration toolset to a dare I say it, a smarter, more usable pattern variations toolset. The overarching theme of controlled randomisation ends up making Playbeat a far more practical and musical tool.

Thanks a lot for your feedback.

This is already a requested feature and as we keep improving this new system and integrating it to our other tools, we will be adding multiple 'SMART' folders as well as the option for the Algorithm to also take into account the genre tagging that is already available with the presets.

Thanks for the reply. Great to hear those features are on the road map.

Any thoughts regarding the individual hit locks idea. I visualized them as something that could be enabled via a long press, and the UI might indicate a lock via a dot in the center of the circles that indicate hits. That way you're getting good visual feedback without cluttering the UI.

Hi, Individual lock on steps is already available. Simply click on the 'Lock' button which is right next to the MIN/MAX input area and while this is engaged you may click and lock any individual step. At any point you want to reset these, simply click on the reset arrow icon next to it.

Oops. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.

Schmotown

@Audiomodern or anyone else. I’ve only owned Playbeat for a few days and I already love it. Just this question (so far): How does one configure it for time signatures like 3/4 or 7/8? Maybe the answer is obvious but I can’t figure it out. Thanks!

Polyphonix

@Schmotown said:
@Audiomodern or anyone else. I’ve only owned Playbeat for a few days and I already love it. Just this question (so far): How does one configure it for time signatures like 3/4 or 7/8? Maybe the answer is obvious but I can’t figure it out. Thanks!

You can't. At least not as a global parameter. But you can work around it by shortening the length of the timeline to the desired time signature. Either the same for all tracks or different for each track. By doing the latter you get the benefit of a euclidian sequencer at the same time.

Schmotown

Thanks @Polyphonix. I’ll play with that.

Cambler

Recently grabbed Playbeat and I'm really digging it. One thing I would love to see though is the ability to import midi (drum patterns). One could then build a library of different styles for use with the Smart AI system, rather than just the IDM et al that come with the system. I'm thinking some interesting jazz or rock beats that could provide the basis for some interesting randomisation/remixes.

lukesleepwalker

@Cambler said:
Recently grabbed Playbeat and I'm really digging it. One thing I would love to see though is the ability to import midi (drum patterns). One could then build a library of different styles for use with the Smart AI system, rather than just the IDM et al that come with the system. I'm thinking some interesting jazz or rock beats that could provide the basis for some interesting randomisation/remixes.

Amen. The arc of the iOS universe bends toward EDM but doesn't have to.

Cambler

@lukesleepwalker said:

@Cambler said:
Recently grabbed Playbeat and I'm really digging it. One thing I would love to see though is the ability to import midi (drum patterns). One could then build a library of different styles for use with the Smart AI system, rather than just the IDM et al that come with the system. I'm thinking some interesting jazz or rock beats that could provide the basis for some interesting randomisation/remixes.

Amen. The arc of the iOS universe bends toward EDM but doesn't have to.

Indeed. I think there's a real opportunity for apps like Playbeat to aid in the creation of some really interesting hybrid styles. From my own dabblings with the app and also listening to user demos on yTube, the most interesting output comes when folks are using non-traditional (in context) drum/percussion samples and I think this can be furthered with the same idea rhythmically.

My 2 cents

lukesleepwalker

@Cambler said:

@lukesleepwalker said:

@Cambler said:
Recently grabbed Playbeat and I'm really digging it. One thing I would love to see though is the ability to import midi (drum patterns). One could then build a library of different styles for use with the Smart AI system, rather than just the IDM et al that come with the system. I'm thinking some interesting jazz or rock beats that could provide the basis for some interesting randomisation/remixes.

Amen. The arc of the iOS universe bends toward EDM but doesn't have to.

Indeed. I think there's a real opportunity for apps like Playbeat to aid in the creation of some really interesting hybrid styles. From my own dabblings with the app and also listening to user demos on yTube, the most interesting output comes when folks are using non-traditional (in context) drum/percussion samples and I think this can be furthered with the same idea rhythmically.

My 2 cents

You are spot on, thx for the excellent suggestion.

HotStrange

@Cambler said:

@lukesleepwalker said:

@Cambler said:
Recently grabbed Playbeat and I'm really digging it. One thing I would love to see though is the ability to import midi (drum patterns). One could then build a library of different styles for use with the Smart AI system, rather than just the IDM et al that come with the system. I'm thinking some interesting jazz or rock beats that could provide the basis for some interesting randomisation/remixes.

Amen. The arc of the iOS universe bends toward EDM but doesn't have to.

Indeed. I think there's a real opportunity for apps like Playbeat to aid in the creation of some really interesting hybrid styles. From my own dabblings with the app and also listening to user demos on yTube, the most interesting output comes when folks are using non-traditional (in context) drum/percussion samples and I think this can be furthered with the same idea rhythmically.

My 2 cents

Agreed. I’ve been making some industrial drone/free jazz/IDM mix and using Playbeat as my main drum machine for these tracks. It’s been really fun and it’s really great at it. Quickly becoming one of my favorite iOS drum machines.

Cambler

@HotStrange said:

@Cambler said:

@lukesleepwalker said:

@Cambler said:
Recently grabbed Playbeat and I'm really digging it. One thing I would love to see though is the ability to import midi (drum patterns). One could then build a library of different styles for use with the Smart AI system, rather than just the IDM et al that come with the system. I'm thinking some interesting jazz or rock beats that could provide the basis for some interesting randomisation/remixes.

Amen. The arc of the iOS universe bends toward EDM but doesn't have to.

Indeed. I think there's a real opportunity for apps like Playbeat to aid in the creation of some really interesting hybrid styles. From my own dabblings with the app and also listening to user demos on yTube, the most interesting output comes when folks are using non-traditional (in context) drum/percussion samples and I think this can be furthered with the same idea rhythmically.

My 2 cents

Agreed. I’ve been making some industrial drone/free jazz/IDM mix and using Playbeat as my main drum machine for these tracks. It’s been really fun and it’s really great at it. Quickly becoming one of my favorite iOS drum machines.

That sounds wonderful @HotStrange . There are some amazing tools out there eh!