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Lightening Connector for Audio
Here's an interesting article on using the lightening connector to get audio in and out of iOS devices. The fact that Dr. Dre was live at the developer's conference also signals a shift in how Apple may be marketing and implementing their digital audio via the lightening connector.
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This looks like the new IPad may come without the mini jack. Only lightning in line with their minimalistic approach. This way they will also maximise profit of their new Beatz by Dre line. So we may have to say bye bye to our favourite cans we used to just plug in. I honestly hope not but I'm not being optimistic.
I'd call it more just being plain pessimistic....
This sounds like a great idea. I think what it means is that certain headphones will be allowed as class-compliant audio devices for stereo out.
I love how my cheap Sony cans sound thru the Focusrite 2i2 which has a decent headphone amp... So I imagine loads of people would appreciate a headphone experience that bypasses the 3.5mm jack.
It would be crazy to remove the 3.5 jack... Was the article suggesting as such?
No it was not but what would be the point of having headphones with lightning plug? I don't think that is purely for sound quality purposes. Apple mostly cares about the general public (where the money is) and general public (myself included) won't care less about the difference in sound quality between the two connectors. If you see another reason for this move I'd be interested to hear it.
Apple just spent a lot of cash to purchase beatz they sure must have had a strategy in place before blowing all this dough. Beatz (for whatever reason) have their mass appeal. I know people who earn way below minimum wage that spend £150 on those headphones. I don't know exactly how is this possible but our friends at Apple have a nose for premium tastes so I'll leave it to them. Speculating is a beautiful thing so I'm ready to get surprised.
Damn
. I bougth the usb camera kit for my ipad 2 and 3 and then lightning, on my ipad air so i need another camera kit, and now this that is so apple.
Boy. I would hope the cable can be swapped with a standard plug version. I can't see myself spending serious money on a pair of headphones I couldn't use with my hifi.
I'm sure for $40 Apple would be happy to sell you a lighting to headphone jack adapter.
^ouch!!
@Zymos said:
This is exactly how they work. This is capitalism at its purest. They produce extremely desirable product and slowly draw you into its world along with the lightning plugs, m4a and aiff formats, their own bluetooth etc. so you're faced to make a choice to be completely with Apple or completely not which with all the sexy products they make is an impossible decision. I've been living on the fence between apple and google for the last 3 years and it's been ok but I expect it will get harder to do that in future. Can't live in two places at the same time.
First world problems...
I'm only in as deep as an iPad2 and a CCK. Oh yeah, and my phone.
Oh, and then I needed the 30pin/lightning adapter.
But I think I'm good now.
I seriously doubt they will do this. As much as it would fit into Apple's strategy this would be a ridiculously stupid move. They would seriously piss off just about everybody with that. Not going to happen. Also it would mean you couldn't have any audio out while charging.
Two lightening ports?!!! The ipad4 it was an intelligent move 6 monts later after the ipad3
What is wrong with the current USB HID support for audio? Apple still refuse to officially acknowledge that the CCK - and hence the USB stack in iOS - can do Audio and MIDI. Why???? Does this presage them killing off all our interfaces by changing the stacks? Which they could actualy do since our use of the CCK has always essentially relied on undocumented behavior (bcause they never say it is there).
Plus it is not time for losing the 3.5mm format connector on headphones.
Not so sure they get it.
I think Apple is looking for another way to leverage what they already have and stay ahead of the curve with their techniology. Even going through the lightening connector, there's a DAC somewhere in the signal chain. I don't know the technical details but it does seem like a way to develop two qualities of audio in the same device initially and perhaps later depending upon how it's received, they could have it be the default.
Apple is smart with their marketing as beats are the headphones you always see the celebrities with so they're going to try to capitalize on that so those same people and their followers will need to get the player (iOS device) to go along with their headphones to get the premium sound.
@dwarman they do acknowledge that the CCK supports audio and MIDI. They mention it quite a lot actually. Look here for example... http://support.apple.com/kb/ht4106
But not on the box.
Woah.... Would I have one lightning port on an iphone 6? How would I use Apogee Jam for guitar and hear the output?
Just saw this...
http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/555082/20140608/iphone-6-release-date-2014-specs-features.htm
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Dunno, ditching the headphone jack altogether would be pushing things further than they ever have before, I can't see it happening in one go like this, because sales would definitely suffer - a lot of people have nice headphones that they want to keep using. They would probably avoid buying devices that don't support regular headphone sockets - I know I would.
One part of me says: can I have my floppy disks and SCSI back please. The other says: technology moves on and this could mean we get a pure digital sound but would it also need converters? This could lead to 48k lossless audio sounding super. Remember they did say the lightening connector will usher in new technology.
Those who have been using Apple gear for ages know one thing and that is never think your shiny new toy will always be new as Apple never stands still. If this happens, guess what, Samsung and others will be on to this kind of tech in a flash. If it does happen, your iDevice will still work but you may start to think you need that new connector thingy........... If anything, Apple will phase this in.
But it would make more sense to introduce it alongside the old headphone jack, not as a total replacement. This doesn't compare to floppy discs at all, a lot of people, even regular punter types, have invested heavily in headphones, ditching the headphone jack would cause a massive outcry.
@richardyot said:
In my book, they do compare because of the fact that when new tech changes happen, people always yearn for what they know or used to know. When Apple stopped using floppy disks there was an outcry from people who thought floppy disks were the cutting edge of technology
myself included. I had invested in floppy disks and I still have them somewhere but tech moves on. I'm sure what will happen here is that the new connector will live alongside the old for some time. When the benefits of the new connector become widespread, people will ditch their old headphones. I'm also sure manufacturers will come up with "connectors" to enable people to still use their current headphones. Some people still use cassette tapes but that's another story.
All these changes propel business. I have a feeling that Apple aren't ad libbing but have a fairly precise Road map for the next few years and they're just trickling these changes to us consumers. I'm hearing some people cursing EU for trying to unify charging plug for all devices but that would actually be a good thing for us because one could use all sort of gadgets to plug in leaving the salesmen dry. I don't have issue with progress but mostly with the speed at which tech is changing these days. I know we're used to it now but a new ipad/iPhone every year is ridiculously frequent.
If we buy it they will come (arse about face but you get the idea...).
@JohnnyGoodyear said:
Haha, there's no other way man. I'm already waiting for the specs!
if they really remove the 3.5mm jack from the next ipad i might still get one but would DEFINITELY keep my air. 3.5mm jacks are essential
The problem here is ethical, there is two parts the consumer and apple, is ethical to force to consumers tu buy everything and is the consumer so needy to buy it, well if you are apple you know the road and they can do a hard road with a lot of purchases or the easy road better for consumer but harder for the company.
Both are jilted one for buy it one for sell it, and both have the option of not
I suspect they will keep the 3.5mm jack, but will hype the new way to get high quality sound. They will then start talking about how bad the 3.5mm jack is compared to the new lightning connector quality is (you know, marketing). The point is, I doubt that Apple would drop the 3.5mm jack (bad marketing), but I can totally see them keeping it "low" quality (the standard 16/44), and hyping the new technology to the point where everything believes they have to buy the new headphones... Personally, I'm very happy with my AT ATH-M50x headphones, and doubt there is a beats model out there that is as flat and clear.
In other words, they'll say that the only way to get this new quality is to buy a beats headphone with lightning connector....
I guess that's their job, right? The question is will enough of us 'buy' it?
i'd imagine they'd at least include a lightning to 3.5mm headphone adapter with the idevice. at least i'd fucking hope so.