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Using NFT's for buying/reselling auv3's....

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  • @echoopera said:
    Lots of shilling going on here...where's my wallet :)

    I will discuss certain cryptos, but I do not endorse or offer any investing advice whatsoever. Each person must do their own homework and decide their own level of acceptable risk.

  • edited December 2021

    But I need someone to blame when it all goes south, and the people on this thread seem like the perfect scapegoats for any failures in the market people might experience.

    jeez...lighten up. I'm not looking to anyone here for any sort of sagely financial advice.
    https://media.giphy.com/media/xT0GqlK9efNWRiKhQk/giphy.gif

    Compression and Mastering yeah...money, no way! My mattress is just fine. Just fine.

    https://media.giphy.com/media/aXThX9ftrHnji/giphy.gif

  • @cian said:
    ... Can you seriously name any achievements in the history of computer science.

    We got rid of punch cards back in the 70's.

  • @wim said:

    @cian said:
    ... Can you seriously name any achievements in the history of computer science.

    We got rid of punch cards back in the 70's.

    I believe punch cards are the reason why the term “software stack” is still used today.

  • They were fine till the Operators used to drop the pack on the floor😢

  • @GeoTony said:
    They were fine till the Operators used to drop the pack on the floor😢

    Yep.

  • @NeuM said:

    @wim said:

    @cian said:
    ... Can you seriously name any achievements in the history of computer science.

    We got rid of punch cards back in the 70's.

    I believe punch cards are the reason why the term “software stack” is still used today.

    Not quite... in my experience which dates back to Computer Science in the late 70's.

    "Software stack" became important in the early days of Internet applications. Before that
    applications tended to be monolithic using the application tools provided by the hardware vendor and later a few software companies (Oracle Database as an example).

    The early Internet Software Architecture building blocks involved selecting a few "products" that a company would use to develop their application. Here's the basic "stack" layers from the 90's:

    Database Tier- a persistent data store
    EXAMPLES: Oracle, Informix, Sybase, MySQL, MS SQL, etc

    Application Environment Tier- this was primarily a choice of language and it's runtime env.
    Server Side EXAMPLES: PHP, Perl, Ruby on Rails, Django, ColdFusion, Java 2 Enterprise Edition, Node, etc

    Database and Application Runtimes could reside on a single server but for scale and redundancy they soon spilt to one or more instances of each service.

    Web Language/Env Tier - HTML, Javascript, Java, CSS

    NOTE: The term "stack" also is used in OS "Machine architectures" as a data structure where
    elements and pushed onto and popped off of a LIFO (or FIFO) software stack.

    In todays world these concepts distribute over "clouds" of resources that run in distributed data centers (AWS, Google Cloud, MS or Oracle Clouds). Running your own stack tends to be limiting and difficult to maintain. It impacts competitiveness. "Subscriptions" trump hardware purchasing at this level of scale. Some smaller, agile tech focused companies will
    by hardware and rent space in data centers... usually because they are innovating in some new way or want the ability to make rapid changes to the "stack".

  • @McD said:

    @NeuM said:

    @wim said:

    @cian said:
    ... Can you seriously name any achievements in the history of computer science.

    We got rid of punch cards back in the 70's.

    I believe punch cards are the reason why the term “software stack” is still used today.

    Not quite... in my experience which dates back to Computer Science in the late 70's.

    "Software stack" became important in the early days of Internet applications. Before that
    applications tended to be monolithic using the application tools provided by the hardware vendor and later a few software companies (Oracle Database as an example).

    The early Internet Software Architecture building blocks involved selecting a few "products" that a company would use to develop their application. Here's the basic "stack" layers from the 90's:

    Database Tier- a persistent data store
    EXAMPLES: Oracle, Informix, Sybase, MySQL, MS SQL, etc

    Application Environment Tier- this was primarily a choice of language and it's runtime env.
    Server Side EXAMPLES: PHP, Perl, Ruby on Rails, Django, ColdFusion, Java 2 Enterprise Edition, Node, etc

    Database and Application Runtimes could reside on a single server but for scale and redundancy they soon spilt to one or more instances of each service.

    Web Language/Env Tier - HTML, Javascript, Java, CSS

    NOTE: The term "stack" also is used in OS "Machine architectures" as a data structure where
    elements and pushed onto and popped off of a LIFO (or FIFO) software stack.

    In todays world these concepts distribute over "clouds" of resources that run in distributed data centers (AWS, Google Cloud, MS or Oracle Clouds). Running your own stack tends to be limiting and difficult to maintain. It impacts competitiveness. "Subscriptions" trump hardware purchasing at this level of scale. Some smaller, agile tech focused companies will
    by hardware and rent space in data centers... usually because they are innovating in some new way or want the ability to make rapid changes to the "stack".

    I stand corrected. Tip o' the cap.

  • @NeuM said:

    @McD said:

    @NeuM said:

    @wim said:

    @cian said:
    ... Can you seriously name any achievements in the history of computer science.

    We got rid of punch cards back in the 70's.

    I believe punch cards are the reason why the term “software stack” is still used today.

    Not quite... in my experience which dates back to Computer Science in the late 70's.

    "Software stack" became important in the early days of Internet applications. Before that
    applications tended to be monolithic using the application tools provided by the hardware vendor and later a few software companies (Oracle Database as an example).

    The early Internet Software Architecture building blocks involved selecting a few "products" that a company would use to develop their application. Here's the basic "stack" layers from the 90's:

    Database Tier- a persistent data store
    EXAMPLES: Oracle, Informix, Sybase, MySQL, MS SQL, etc

    Application Environment Tier- this was primarily a choice of language and it's runtime env.
    Server Side EXAMPLES: PHP, Perl, Ruby on Rails, Django, ColdFusion, Java 2 Enterprise Edition, Node, etc

    Database and Application Runtimes could reside on a single server but for scale and redundancy they soon spilt to one or more instances of each service.

    Web Language/Env Tier - HTML, Javascript, Java, CSS

    NOTE: The term "stack" also is used in OS "Machine architectures" as a data structure where
    elements and pushed onto and popped off of a LIFO (or FIFO) software stack.

    In todays world these concepts distribute over "clouds" of resources that run in distributed data centers (AWS, Google Cloud, MS or Oracle Clouds). Running your own stack tends to be limiting and difficult to maintain. It impacts competitiveness. "Subscriptions" trump hardware purchasing at this level of scale. Some smaller, agile tech focused companies will
    by hardware and rent space in data centers... usually because they are innovating in some new way or want the ability to make rapid changes to the "stack".

    I stand corrected. Tip o' the cap.

    You should have said you were just kidding and then pulled some pun about the "punch line."

  • Indeed, it all comes from stacking software layers like in a layer cake, so you get middleware, and either side of it, backware and frontware. In some cases you get sideware, and topware and bottomware also. But you always get middleware.

  • @u0421793 said:
    Indeed, it all comes from stacking software layers like in a layer cake, so you get middleware, and either side of it, backware and frontware. In some cases you get sideware, and topware and bottomware also. But you always get middleware.

    Can I expound some more with some historical comments on "Architectures?"

    Middleware describes various software schemes to build distributed systems.
    The basic architectural options are:

    Point to Point (your browser uses these private encrypted (if https) communication options.

    "Stars" - a service can provide multiple outputs with each end point getting ideally the same data as all other subscribers. Wall Street stock data required this approach because
    all the subscribers needed stock data at the same time. The premier provider of this service
    as a software product (and not a hardware product from Bloomberg) was a company called
    Teknikron which created their "Information Bus" (i.e. the Teknikron Information Bus = TIB).
    The TIB was so successful for building distributed systems that the company re-branded as
    TIBCo and it was scooped by by Reuters who wanted to compete with Bloomberg selling
    Stack Data Feeds.

    "Busses" put out data that all end systems receive in "broadcasts". No specific system is
    addressed as a target and a Broadcast address is used. This is really local area networking
    details but the bus approach contrasts with encrypted/private point to point transmissions.
    Point to point cannot by definition be fair since the "packets" must be sequence out over
    shared or parallel media options.

    Our beloved MIDI networks are "point to point" with a Master/slave architecture with the
    added concept of a mesh since MIDI allows devices to forward MIDI IN using a THRU option.

    If you're NOT totally confused then you did get the crux of this discourse... there's more than one way to build data sharing networks and there are tradeoffs in terms of
    Consistency - Availability - Persistence in the resulting designs/implementations.

    But my one track away is "middleware" refers to the products/standards that support
    the creation of distributed system architectures. In a sense, these products are "software
    wires or pipes".

    Have the lurkers left yet?

    Who wants to debate Open versus Closed (Proprietary) Systems?

    Sometimes Open Systems loose but they are slowly consuming most layers of the stack
    and many commercial options have folded up and moved on to other markets.

  • @wim said:

    @NeuM said:

    @McD said:

    @NeuM said:

    @wim said:

    @cian said:
    ... Can you seriously name any achievements in the history of computer science.

    We got rid of punch cards back in the 70's.

    I believe punch cards are the reason why the term “software stack” is still used today.

    Not quite... in my experience which dates back to Computer Science in the late 70's.

    "Software stack" became important in the early days of Internet applications. Before that
    applications tended to be monolithic using the application tools provided by the hardware vendor and later a few software companies (Oracle Database as an example).

    The early Internet Software Architecture building blocks involved selecting a few "products" that a company would use to develop their application. Here's the basic "stack" layers from the 90's:

    Database Tier- a persistent data store
    EXAMPLES: Oracle, Informix, Sybase, MySQL, MS SQL, etc

    Application Environment Tier- this was primarily a choice of language and it's runtime env.
    Server Side EXAMPLES: PHP, Perl, Ruby on Rails, Django, ColdFusion, Java 2 Enterprise Edition, Node, etc

    Database and Application Runtimes could reside on a single server but for scale and redundancy they soon spilt to one or more instances of each service.

    Web Language/Env Tier - HTML, Javascript, Java, CSS

    NOTE: The term "stack" also is used in OS "Machine architectures" as a data structure where
    elements and pushed onto and popped off of a LIFO (or FIFO) software stack.

    In todays world these concepts distribute over "clouds" of resources that run in distributed data centers (AWS, Google Cloud, MS or Oracle Clouds). Running your own stack tends to be limiting and difficult to maintain. It impacts competitiveness. "Subscriptions" trump hardware purchasing at this level of scale. Some smaller, agile tech focused companies will
    by hardware and rent space in data centers... usually because they are innovating in some new way or want the ability to make rapid changes to the "stack".

    I stand corrected. Tip o' the cap.

    You should have said you were just kidding and then pulled some pun about the "punch line."

    ;)

  • @NeuM said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @NeuM said:

    @Gavinski said:

    Well, things like $Flux are running decentralised cloud infrastructure similar to Amazon Web Services, but free (you just have to stake 200 flux which get returned when you stop using the service) and more reliable than AWS, which had a meltdown today that took Disney and other service providers down for hours.

    I'd call that a real use case, wouldn't you? And that's just one example. The metaverse(s) will also become as much a part of everyday life as the Internet is now, for better or for worse.

    @Gavinski, look into Filecoin (FIL) and STORJ. Both are decentralized alternatives to AWS. And they are not the only two alternatives, but they are several of the biggest.

    I'm into $flux as the future of web3. It's my biggest bag, in fact.

    Just because I put my own money into a crypto does not mean I have any expectations for it. All investments are a risk and everything could potentially disappear. I personally hold more than 30 different cryptos.

    And on which exchange are you buying/selling FLUX? It is not listed on CoinMarketCap.com.

    Correction: Found it. It’s still a small crypto, but that doesn’t necessarily mean anything either negative or positive. https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/zel/

    It is, however built on top of ETH.

    No - flux is mined, it is not built on Eth. It does collaborate with various L1s, including KDA, which is my bet for the next eth killer.

  • edited December 2021

    @McD said:
    Our beloved MIDI networks are "point to point" with a Master/slave architecture with the
    added concept of a mesh since MIDI allows devices to forward MIDI IN using a THRU option.

    Eh, don't use these racist IT grandpa words. It's Leader/Follower nowadays. And always use the main branch.

  • It's such a good time to buy now. I also wonder which promising young coins are out there to buy a few and wait. I bought some ETH in 2016 when it was below 1 Euro to take part in TheDAO and then I wasted them for something stupid. If I would have just kept them...

  • I think music nfts will be huge. Maybe take a look at Moda https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/moda-dao

  • edited December 2021

    Wow, deamou5 already joined the party. Interesting. I will check it out. Thanks.

  • edited December 2021

    Yeah, hopefully he is a better crypto investor than he is a keyboard player 😂

  • can we take this over as the crypto shilling thread? ive got a platform im heavily invested in that would love to share!

  • @shinyisshiny said:
    can we take this over as the crypto shilling thread? ive got a platform im heavily invested in that would love to share!

    As long as you divulge your conflict of interest, fire away.

  • edited December 2021

    sasd> @krassmann said:

    Wow, deamou5 already joined the party. Interesting. I will check it out. Thanks.

    That is more like sign this bullrun is near to it's final manic phase which will be followed by multi-year bear market :-D This is exactly what hapens every time right before end of bull run - famous celebrities and stars are starting jumping on crypto train and shilling low cap altcoins like they are going to save the world :lol: ..

    My bets are in next 2-3 months brutal pump, altcoins will make incredible gains and then endgame, bear market until next Bitcoin halvening (see u guys in 2025 lol)

    Veterans from 2017/2018 are for sure remembering this golden event :-)

    "Bitconneeeeeect"

  • edited December 2021

    Well it looks like Endlesss is embracing the blockchain moving forward:

    https://www.blog.endlesss.fm/post/endlesss-transition-statement

    And the blockchain they are using:
    https://decrypt.co/resources/what-is-near-protocol

  • @echoopera said:
    Well it looks like Endlesss is embracing the blockchain moving forward:

    https://www.blog.endlesss.fm/post/endlesss-transition-statement

    And the blockchain they are using:
    https://decrypt.co/resources/what-is-near-protocol

    might mean something if anyone used endless its a bit of a ghost town in my experience unless something has changed recently. Haven’t used it in quite a while, certainly don’t think anyones making money on it are they?

  • edited December 2021

    @J_B said:
    >
    might mean something if anyone used endless its a bit of a ghost town in my experience unless something has changed recently. Haven’t used it in quite a while, certainly don’t think anyones making money on it are they?

    I assume the vast majority of the useage is either solo or small groups of people who know each other and not like a big MMO

  • I suppose now's a good time to switch before it gets busy

  • edited December 2021

    The desktop version of Endlesss is just aces for creating Loops...it blows my mind how well it does what it does....time to freeze this laptop so it never changes :smile:

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