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Help me thin out my "virtual analog" Synths

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  • @u0421793 said:
    Just because a synth can frequency modulate one osc with another doesn’t make it an ‘fm synth’. An FM synth would be expected to be configured such that it has at least an operator or hopefully more than one, then it gets let into the ‘fm synth’ club.

    Because then you have a chance at changing the amount of fm over the duration of a note by virtue of the patch – and therefore some sort of harmonic evolution across a note duration thanks to the way the operator is set to modulate the carrier osc.

    Otherwise it’s just sparkling VCO to VCO fm-ing (or if you’re lucky, VCO to VCF fm-ing), which is pretty much a constant value nice though it is.

    Just to be clear, I was not suggesting that Odyssey should be categorized as an FM synth…I am merely stating that its FM has a unique, worthwhile character well worth exploring.

  • TB Flowtones is one of my new favs.

    What folder is Factory in?

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  • Primer is pretty generic, so unless you’re taking the Syntorial course or learning the basics of synthesis, you could probably lose that one without missing anything. I’d never want to remove the others though - they’ve each got their own strengths and unique sounds.

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  • @tja said:

    @Eschatone said:
    Primer is pretty generic, so unless you’re taking the Syntorial course or learning the basics of synthesis, you could probably lose that one without missing anything. I’d never want to remove the others though - they’ve each got their own strengths and unique sounds.

    Thanks....

    Current setup:

    And ODYSSEi, iProphet and iSyn Poly as IAA Apps too.

    BLEASS Alpha may be added and Viking... but I feel that Viking may not add much.

    Nice collection. I like having a wide variety on hand, even if I don’t regularly use some of them. It’s fun to periodically change things up, just for a change of scenery or to find inspiration in irregular workflows.

    I wouldn’t want to live without Synthmaster 2, Factory and Zeeon though. My favs are those with a well designed, easy to use interface, powerful modulation matrix, and plenty of OSC types, and these three never disappoint.

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    @tja said:
    Current setup:

    And ODYSSEi, iProphet and iSyn Poly as IAA Apps too.

    BLEASS Alpha may be added and Viking... but I feel that Viking may not add much.

    OK. Each of these 13(!) subtractive synths is a marvellous piece of software that can hold its own, there is no question about that.

    But reading your first post again, what do you want to do with them? What is your purpose of having them, what is your goal? And the question goes for all of your folders? You wrote you want to thin them out, you don’ t learn them properly etc. Right now you’re getting loads of knowledgeable but still subjective advice on which synths to have, nothing wrong with that. But what do YOU want to DO? Is your goal something with your creative process, or having the best collection of different functions, or different ”sound” characteristics…

    EDIT: try to grasp the sheer POWER of these. With these and with proper programming and knowledge you can emulate all synths over and over again basically since dawn of the synthesizer. Instead of seeing them as apps or symbols on a screen try to imagine having these as hardware synths in a room, all 13 of them. And in the next room (“folder”), another 10-15 hardware synths, and in the next room even 10 more hardware synths and in the garage you keep 100 or so effect boxes… you get the point. What are you going to do with all of them?😀

    Just trying to understand here…

    /DMfan🇸🇪

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  • @tja said:
    @DMfan Now, that exactly is the question. What to do when you have lots of Synths - which is sure a common >problem with forum members.

    Tell me about it😂.

    I would like to get to know them better, use them more, find my personal favorites.
    But I need to start somewhere, which is why I asked for advice - which of course is subjective, but there is a trend. Maybe, at one day, I find that I only need one of them?

    Do YOU have an advice?
    What you wrote, sounds like you would just use one substractive Synth.
    Which one and why?

    IMHO: Subtractive is the most common sound synthesis, but can be used to create different sound characteristics both modern sounding stuff and vintage emulations. Every synth has its own character, but many are not that far apart or even very close. Therefore you could of course have several subtractive synths, as long as they don’t do the same thing, produce the same sound “ character”. I want my synths to have a reason to stay in my collection. If I have too many that produce the same character sounds, my creative process is delayed by the fact that I have to pick which one to use.

    And about the "rooms" .... I just have all those Synths, collected after forum recommendations over the last years. >So, what to do with them, in your opinion?

    IMHO: Keep or delete them for now to be able to focus. The room example was just to show another perspective. Pick at the most 5 and learn them inside and out. Having that base of knowledge you are much more capable of deciding which ones out of the many you will want to keep or use in the future, maybe for different reasons like GUI, synthesis type, character, personal preference or other. Or maybe for a reason you don’t even know yet!

    /DMfan🇸🇪

  • Easiest way to clean out apps is simply to...
    ...launch it and see if it still 'clicks' with you, if not delete it...

    When you bump into an app being mentioned that you don't currently have on your iPad it's always a nice surprice to see the 'download arrow' instead of the 'price' :sunglasses:

    Some might be tempted to use the 'auto offload' to save space but that just postpones the app cleanup...

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    Do your own 'one synth challenge' with each. Use only one synth for a week, make a full track with it, including drums. Don't use external FX. This will help you to learn them inside out, and in the end you will be a better synthesist, and have music to show for it.

  • @Samu said:
    Easiest way to clean out apps is simply to...
    ...launch it and see if it still 'clicks' with you, if not delete it...

    When you bump into an app being mentioned that you don't currently have on your iPad it's always a nice surprice to see the 'download arrow' instead of the 'price' :sunglasses:

    Some might be tempted to use the 'auto offload' to save space but that just postpones the app cleanup...

    +1

  • @stim said:
    Do your own 'one synth challenge' with each. Use only one synth for a week, make a full track with it, including drums. Don't use external FX. This will help you to learn them inside out, and in the end you will be a better synthesist, and have music to show for it.

    Good one!

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