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Upgrading from 11” to 12.9”” iPad for AUM and AUv3 : would I notice a big difference?

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Greetings. I’m currently using an 11” iPad. With my middle aged eyesight and fat fingers, I sometimes find AUv3 interfaces a little fiddly even when I expand them as much as possible on screen.

If I were to upgrade to a 12.9” iPad, would the interface of AUM and the AUv3 plugins I use appear bigger, or they be the same size with just “room for more stuff” on the screen?

To give two examples of apps I like where the controls are a little small even when zoomed all the way out: ID700 and Mononoke.

I am otherwise happy with my 11” iPad. Would I notice a big difference with a bigger screen? I’m not concerned about processor power.

Comments

  • mjm1138mjm1138

    Depends on the app and how it scales. In most cases I’d say yes, dense UIs are a bit easier to use/see on a bigger screen. I think the UI of AUM scales as well; I kind of wish I had the option of a denser view of AUM, I was hoping when I got my 12.9 that I’d be able to fit more channels on the screen.

  • JES000000JES000000

    Thank you. That helps.

  • NeuMNeuM

    Apps with dense UI's will probably still be a bit of a navigation chore. But if you use Apple's Pencil on the screen you may be able to choose small targets more easily.

  • GeoTonyGeoTony

    Fellow middle aged sausage fingered AUM user here. I did the 11 to 12.9 move earlier this year and it really made a difference for me. Much easier to use, especially as a GeoShred user as I was able to increase the number of frets and still have a more useable surface. @NeuM is correct, a Pencil also makes a difference.

  • JES000000JES000000

    Hadn't thought of the pencil route. This is another good option. Thank you.

  • NeuMNeuM

    @JES000000 said:
    Hadn't thought of the pencil route. This is another good option. Thank you.

    I’ve had to use it myself on occasion when I couldn’t quite choose a fine setting otherwise.

  • supadomsupadom

    Only at the beginning….after that it will become that old iPad I own.

  • LinearLinemanLinearLineman

    With my eyesight I’d hate to go back to the 11”. If you want to save money get a refurbished Pro2 from Apple or used from B&H Photo.

  • StudioESStudioES

    I still kick myself for not getting the 2017 12.9 when it was last available back in June from the Apple Refurbished Store. The 256gb WiFi-only model was only $589. The used prices elsewhere are pretty high.

    My eyesight, especially seeing close-up, keeps getting worse and worse. Can't use an iPad Mini or iPhone to make music any longer.

    Last checked 2021/6/7 & today: Lowest Prices on the US Apple Refurbished Store (WiFi-only Models)(Some models are no longer available):

    • 2017 Pro 10.5" (A10x 4gb RAM) - 64gb $379, 256gb $509, 512gb $679.
    • 2017 Pro 12.9" (A10x 4gb RAM) - 64gb $469, 256gb $589, 512gb $799.
    • 2018 Pro 11" (A12x 4/6gb RAM) - 64gb $519, 256gb $ , 512gb $769, 1tb $ .
    • 2018 Pro 12.9" (A12x 4/6gb RAM) - 64gb $629, 256gb $709, 512gb $879, 1tb $1049
    • 2020 Pro 11" (A12z 4/6gb RAM) - 128gb $609, 256gb $689, 512gb $859, 1tb $1029.
    • 2020 Pro 12.9" (A12z 4/6gb RAM) - 128gb $749, 256gb $829, 512gb $999, 1tb $1169.

    New (WiFi-only Models):

    • 2020 Air 4 10.9" (A14 4gb RAM) - 64gb $599, 256gb $749.
    • 2021 Pro 11" (M1 8/16gb RAM) - 128gb $799, 256gb $899, 512gb $1099, 1tb $1499, 2tb $1899.
    • 2021 Pro 12.9" (M1 8/16gb RAM) - 128gb $1099, 256gb $1199, 512gb $1399, 1tb $1799, 2tb $2199.
    • 2021 iPad 9 10.2" (A13 3gb RAM) - 64gb $329, 256gb $479.
    • 2021 Mini 6 8.3" (A15 4gb RAM) - 64gb $499, 256gb $649.
  • Telstar5Telstar5

    I’m 69 w a 125% -150% reading glasses prescription. I went 12.9 w an Apple Pencil.

  • sigma79sigma79

    My eye sight is sketch. Its like a surreal cartoon. Sensitive to lights. Peoples windows at night time make it seem like a Harry potter house or the house in bloodbourne. Where if it sees you it depletes your energy. If people open a coke fridge for example. Its like ahhh. Back to the vampire abode. Have to make do with the additional ipad mini. Its just for drums and samples though ( I think )

  • j_liljedahlj_liljedahl

    @mjm1138 said:
    Depends on the app and how it scales. In most cases I’d say yes, dense UIs are a bit easier to use/see on a bigger screen. I think the UI of AUM scales as well; I kind of wish I had the option of a denser view of AUM, I was hoping when I got my 12.9 that I’d be able to fit more channels on the screen.

    I'm planning to look into options for denser view in AUM.

  • mjm1138mjm1138

    @j_liljedahl said:

    @mjm1138 said:
    Depends on the app and how it scales. In most cases I’d say yes, dense UIs are a bit easier to use/see on a bigger screen. I think the UI of AUM scales as well; I kind of wish I had the option of a denser view of AUM, I was hoping when I got my 12.9 that I’d be able to fit more channels on the screen.

    I'm planning to look into options for denser view in AUM.

    That would be great! BTW I for one would happily pay an IAP or an upgrade fee similar to the Loopy Pro model for improvements like that. I get a ton of value out of AUM.

  • JES000000JES000000

    @j_liljedahl said:

    @mjm1138 said:
    Depends on the app and how it scales. In most cases I’d say yes, dense UIs are a bit easier to use/see on a bigger screen. I think the UI of AUM scales as well; I kind of wish I had the option of a denser view of AUM, I was hoping when I got my 12.9 that I’d be able to fit more channels on the screen.

    I'm planning to look into options for denser view in AUM.

    Just curious -- would this mean a denser UI for everyone, or an option between a denser and a larger UI? I realize some people want more stuff on their screens, but some of us are looking for a little more space and ease of use.

  • j_liljedahlj_liljedahl

    @JES000000 said:

    @j_liljedahl said:

    @mjm1138 said:
    Depends on the app and how it scales. In most cases I’d say yes, dense UIs are a bit easier to use/see on a bigger screen. I think the UI of AUM scales as well; I kind of wish I had the option of a denser view of AUM, I was hoping when I got my 12.9 that I’d be able to fit more channels on the screen.

    I'm planning to look into options for denser view in AUM.

    Just curious -- would this mean a denser UI for everyone, or an option between a denser and a larger UI? I realize some people want more stuff on their screens, but some of us are looking for a little more space and ease of use.

    The idea so far is a "zoom out mode" which would show all channels at 50% zoom and in two rows. So it would quadruple the number of channels shown, but would be very fiddly and difficult to use :)

  • SamuSamu

    @j_liljedahl said:

    The idea so far is a "zoom out mode" which would show all channels at 50% zoom and in two rows. So it would quadruple the number of channels shown, but would be very fiddly and difficult to use :)

    May I suggest 'blob mode' for the tracks?

    Ie. minimize the tracks to only show the 'input circle' with M/S/R and label?
    This way we could fit a lot of tracks on screen at once with quick access to everything.

    Tapping on a 'blob' could expand the whole track in an overlay window.

    This could pave the way for easy track2track drag-n-drop routing in 'blob mode'.
    (SunVox has a nice 'tap-n-hold source and tap destination' to make or break a connection)

    Mixing could be simple swipe up/down on blot to adjust level and swipe left/right to pan etc.

    Have to say that the 'donut/sqaure approach' to tracks be it audio or midi is a quite smart move...

    Cheers!

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