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Just wondering what might be the quickest way to get audio from BM3 to CB3 and/or back again? I'm thinking more along the lines of pressing 'PLAY' in one and 'REC' in the other, as opposed to bouncing/exporting to a folder (Shared?) and importing.
An example would be to record a loop in CB, sample it into BM3, for further mangling and splitting into slices, hits, kits etc. Then spitting audio straight back into the timeline in CB3.
Cheers!
I used to be able to host BM3 in CB2 and record the audio this way. Last time I tried BM3 in CB3 though it did not record.
Exporting, while unglamorous, I do think is the best way and works fine, no need to trim latency offsets too.
Interesting that it stopped working. Not sure what you mean by latency offsets, though
CB3 is a complete rewrite so it never really stopped working for me so much as it never did work.
@el_bo I did just manage to record BM3 in Cubasis using Audiobus but with tons of crackles, and this is using my M1 so it shouldnt be a CPU issue.
Welcome back @el_bo sweet username by the way.
I went through the same thing with BM3. It never really worked for me, but that’s the way software, or information can be sometimes.
workflow is a very individual type of thing, each person has a way they like to work. A way they feel, or at least I feel, comfortable, creative, and productive. I’ve been where you are, and ultimately I settled on AUM. In my search for an all in one solution I found the answer to be many solutions, lol. By using a host like AUM with many AUv3 I found what I wanted. I think a lot of people go through this process, so don’t get discouraged if it takes some time or worry about missing on an app or two, we’ve all done it. I spent many years using Garageband, Gadget, IM2, Cubasis 2, Audiobus 3, and definitely still use them, but over time I discovered what Worked best for me. Watching lots of videos along the way.
You want try to think of everything you need. Then see which apps have those features. YouTube will be your best bet, unless the app has a free light version like cubasis 3, gadget does. Try the free version of those, or any host/daw that has one. Watch YouTube videos on the apps. check out the developers site for the app information. Also a user manual is a great way to see all the available functionality, quickly without watching a long video. The App Store description is typically only a small amount of what the apps can do. So the manuals table of contents, or contents are a good way to get some insight.
Good luck!
@el_bo I see you went on a bit of a shopping spree between BF and Xmas, lol. I did too.
Cheers!
Seems it'll have to be done via exporting wavs, if I do end up getting Cubasis
Thanks!
I already have a lot of apps, bought over the years. But a few years ago the iPad 3 I was using stopped being useful for anything other than watching videos via VLC. Borderlands and Samplr still worked, but with only 16G RAM (11, really), I never had it clear enough to be messing around with audio files.
Now I once again have access to Gadget 2, AUM, some granular apps, a handful of synths. and some FX. And since owning the new iPad (December), I've added BM3, Blackhole and Tonality to the list.
I've actually made some breakthroughs with BM3 over the last couple of days. Managed to get some parts recorded straight to the timeline like in a traditional linear DAW. Have worked out how to record IAA apps straight-to-audio (Learning to commit), but being played via KB-1. Also been having a bit of fun starting to process loops via the sampler. For the first time since buying it i think that i could use it for everything, if it came down to it.
If for no other reason, BM3 will stay in the arsenal just for the sampler
I'm still likely to buy Cubasis. The difference, even when using the limited LE version, is night-and-day. I like the light/brightness of it, compared to BM3. Strange, as I always tend to 'Dark Mode' all the tech I have if I have the option. So many simple things, like window-resizing and being able to have the mixer under the arrangement. Automation also seems way better. I managed to feel more at home with CBLE in 30 minutes than I am in BM3, after i week
AUM will very much be a part of my workflow. Will use for setting up quick jams to sketchpad ideas, as well as play-through live elements of tracks, as a means to an end, or, sometimes the end itself. But i doubt i'd end up being happy using it on its own, for everything. An
I'm looking at this like cooking a meal. Sure! I can cook a mean one-pot dish, grab it off the burner and just dig in with a spoon. But things end up tastier and ore fun when I have a sauce simmering away in one pot, rice & beans in another and tofu getting good 'n' crispy in the microwave. Cubasis is looking like the prime candidate for the plate on which all these delicacies will be served
One day I'll learn to cook with Drambo and Loopy pro. But for now, i think I've got the best starter options.
Thanks everyone, for your help
Hmmm, just got the latest CB3 update and I can now record BM3 just fine in CB3
Thanks for the update!
From the demo of Cubasis LE, there seems to be the ability to host BM3's audio output within CB3. Is that how you do it? If so, is there an easy way to route audio from CB to BM's audio-recorder?
I don't think there is an easy way but perhaps less than easy. Although I think once you host BM3 in CB3 you are pretty much commited to a one way relationship. Another potential player in this emerging worknest could be Koala.
Well, one way relationships are bound to fail
Was really hoping to avoid having to bounce to audio and export from Cb, then having to import to BM. Would have loved to leverage the threshold function in BM's audio-recorder, essentially 'crate-digging' my CB projects. Thought there'd perhaps be a way to directly do it, but at least an intermediary app to pipe audio between various apps.
Guess I'll have to stick with bounce, export and import.
At least CB's sale deadline has been extended. Hopefully i'll be a bit more fluid with BM by then.
Cheers
Basically that's the reason I recently "abandoned" CB2 and moved all-in for BM3. Makes it easier syncing multiple layers/tracks.
Pretty sure you can host CB3 inside of BM3 and do just that. Sounds like you want to record Bm3 in Cb3 and also record CB3 in Bm3 though, without quitting and reloading.
IAA hosting is on the Loopy Pro roadmap and should be here pretty soon I think. As for it being an AUM killer? No more so than a piano is a guitar killer. They both make music but have different focuses.
Yeah I’ve been gradually using AU’s more and more, but some IAA apps like Waldorf Nave will be a part of my set up until it flat out stops working. It’s one of the best plugins ever, imo. That said, I don’t buy any new IAA/Audiobus only apps. If I buy something new now, it’s always AU. Here’s hoping some of them will get updated.
Hmmm...Interesting comment. I wonder what you mean by "Makes it easier syncing multiple layers/tracks". Be good to know if there's something about my prospective workflow ideas that I'm gonna have issues with
Actually, no. I should've been clearer. I'm looking to use the two DAW for distinct workflow purposes, with those two processes being separated by days or weeks, perhaps. They don't need to be constantly running together.
What I want to do is use BM like a hardware sampler and have it connected to CB as though it were a turntable. In CB, I will have a loop, made up of various tracks e.g Drums, a couple of percussion tracks, bass and some synth tracks (Perhaps 7 tracks in total). The first thing I'll want to sample is the full, mixed loop. But then I may want to sample some combinations e.g Drums & Perc, just the synths combined etc. And lastly, to sample each individual track.
What I really wanted to avoid is having to bounce down all those combinations, then export to a folder, that I then have to point to with BM just to have to import all of it. That's very much running in the opposite direction of 'friction-less'
If I could just pipe the audio between the two apps and sample on-the-fly it would be much easier.
Obviously, I'd want the same ease when passing audio back to CB.
Thanks! Yeah, I regret posting it like that. Wasn't my term, but it doesn't really describe what I was trying to convey. I thought that if I was going to end up using LP, anyway, that perhaps AUM (as flexible as it is) might've been a bit unnecessary for my needs. But for the moment, LP is probably a little bit overkill for me currently. Not that I won't end up using it in the future, but for the moment I don't want to spread myself so thinly over all these apps that I never properly learn how to use any of them.
For the moment, AUM is working out great for me. It's clearly laid out and very intuitive, which is impressive given how deep it also seems to be.
Yeah...I kinda had to reverse my position on that as soon as I realised that neither Borderlands or Samplr are currently Auv3, and that given the screen real-estate necessary for the best performance they might never be.
So...Kinda embarrassed to post this. but I've been an idiot!
A few days ago, in the throes of my frustrations with BM, I requested a refund. Even the things I could get working were so convoluted, and I just decided I'd had enough.
Great! Done!
Except, then I changed my mind
Decided that there were clearly enough people making it work, and really taking advantage of its evident power. So I got in touch with Apple, to try and cancel the refund. Evidently, I'm not yet fluent enough in Spanish to have completely understood the explanation. I thought that once the request had been evaluated, I'd get a final chance to proceed with the refund, or not. Turns out I was wrong, and this morning I awoke to find I'd been refunded but that the app was still working.
The simple thing would be to just delete the app and re-buy it. However, the price is now double what I paid and doing so would mean i could no longer buy CB.
So I'm now in app limbo.
I can't imagine a situation where I wouldn't eventually want to use both, even if I ditched my current ideas of workflow and just played to each of their respective strengths. I just have to take a gamble. Do I go for the one that I've tried, which has some known frustrations, but that I think i could overcome. Or do I take a chance on the one I've yet to try? Perhaps I just eff around in AUM and Garageband?
Decisions...Decisions...
@el_bo I don’t 100% understand the workflow you are going for here but since you mentioned the need to pipe audio then make sure you have checked out VisualSwift https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/comment/1042262 Its main purpose is as a host but Jorge has recently added separate audio unit modules specifically for piping audio and MIDI between hosts. It may help reduce some of the points of friction.
IAA is now supported in LP 😉
Thanks!
The problem with this is that once resampled into other loops I lose the ability to resample the single original tracks.
The easiest way to explain is that I want to make projects with a sampled aesthetic. But I want to create the 'vinyl' that I will be crate-digging, rather than sampling stuff that isn't mine. For instance, if I wanted to do a lo-fi jazz-themed piece, I would first have to write the jazz piece that I intend to sample.
From there, I just want to be able to sample the audio directly, on-the-fly, rather than having to bounce/export/import for everything, as if I'd just hooked up a turntable to an MPC. Once everything is processed, I'd want to pipe it back into CB, which I think is superior for arrangement, mixing and mastering; not least because of the crossfades of audio and the much better automation
I'm just trying to use the best app for each job.
Thanks!
Perhaps that might be something to look into. but an initial search in the appstore showed it wasn't available in my country
Thanks for the update. I still don't now whether the looper workflow is for me. But I have Enso to try in AUM. Hopefully that'll give me an idea
If you're leaning ambient in 2022, have a look at the free version of Wotja 22. It won't help in any way with your workflow (except possibly by replacing it entirely), but now that it's an AUv3 host the sky's the limit. It doesn't host IAA, but can send MIDI to IAA apps.
Thanks for the suggestion.
I did download the lite version, but not really dug in. I do want to do some ambient work (Both long-form and fusion with other elements), but it's not the entirety of what I want to produce. And while I do want to leverage generative and randomisation software, I also want to be able to steer the narrative - Something that within Wotja seems like it would need a huge deep-dive. I don't really have that ind of time or brain-space for something like that.
Will give the lite version a go, though. It looks fascinating