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what works with the Duet is MIDI out to devices like Arturia MicroBrute, KMI QuNexus, QCon Icon. Other connections I have not tried. Mainly because I have an iRig MIDI and a Tascam iU2 with standard MIDI in/out.
But as the iPad only sees the Duet MIDI ports, I think a class compliant USB to MIDI cable should work.
^ thanks. i'm going to give a USB to MIDI cable a shot. I'm surprised no one else has tried what I'm attempting to do -- I've found nothing after researching the issue a fair amount.
well, first I thought this USB-MIDI on the Duet was a bit of a disadvantage, for the same reason - no direct wired MIDI connection to a computer. But then I found out that it is very convenient to just plug in a keyboard or pad controller (QuNeo) to play synth/drum apps. I cannot do this with my other interfaces. And also get MIDI out to modern hardware synths. Or even CV out (QuNexus) to old synths and modular systems.
When I need wired MIDI, I simply use the other interfaces. It's a luxury, but actually not too expensive. However, the Duet certainly is a luxury, for reference-class microphone recordings and high sampling rate projects. It's really good to have it.
Let us know if the USB to MIDI cable works with the Duet.
@Phil999 said:
I think I might be misunderstanding something: in your first paragraph do you mean to say that you HAVE been able to get MIDI out from the Duet? To hardware synths? To drive other devices?
I suppose I could always swap out the Duet for a MIDI interface, but at that point it becomes an even more expensive bit of gear if it doesn't perform one of the functions I need it to perform. Bleh. So much of this stuff feels like, "close, but not quite..."
Apogee Duet: awesome converters and USB MIDI in/out
Tascam iU2: acceptable converters and DIN MIDI in/out
Each one has its strengths and disadvantages. But you're right if your main purpose is to have DIN MIDI, then of course a simple MIDI interface (like the iRig) would be better.
I used a USB to MIDI cable last night to try and get MIDI OUT from the Duet to a DAW/another MIDI interface and I was not successful.
It did not work.
So, after testing with a class compliant USB to MIDI cable and a class compliant USB MIDI interface (not sure that there is actually a technical difference between the two), MIDI OUT from the Duet via the Duet's USB MIDI port does not seem possible. Such a wasted opportunity -- wonder why Apogee designed it that way.
Hopefully the iConnectMIDI2+ will work with my iPad 4!
Emailed AskApogee on a whim and it turns out that the MIDI port on the Duet for iPad should send MIDI out via a USB MIDI device. They recommend the iConnectivity Mio. I'm going to test the Duet with that one tomorrow.
Btw, hope it's ok that I'm posting this saga here, but I've found nothing through researching, so thought it would help someone that might have the same issue in the future.
Anyone knows if it Is possible to monitor from the iPad headphone jack and the headphone output on the scarlett 2i2 at the same time?
By default not. Auria has a special setting that will do that but they warn it might cause problems. The FocusRite 18i20 with Auria will automatically show the headphone jack as an available destination if it has headphones plugged in but does not show it when nothing is plugged in.
So yes its possible but not very supported? Yet. Maybe AB2?
Too bad. Would be nice that the vocalist could monitor her singing, while I listen to the whole mix. Both on headphones. Guess I could just get an adapter for the output on the 2i2.
Anyone use a baby blue bottle mic with iOS recording? What is best current interface to use with a mic like this?
SOLUTION TO APOGEE DUET USB MIDI OUT ISSUE: Use the iConnectivity Mio interface. Don from Apogee told me via email that Apogee recommends using that interface, and sure enough it worked like a charm. So, while other interfaces should work, the Mio is the only one that I was able to get to transmit MIDI from the Duet.
Woohoo! And now it's here for posterity.
glad you found a solution. I find it a bit strange that there seem to be a difference between USB-MIDI interfaces nowadays. In earlier days, these interfaces never failed to work, and still do as long as there are drivers available. They were much more expensive though.
^ Thanks! What I find most curious is that both of the interfaces I tried as as dumb as can be -- class compliant, no drivers, etc. Yet it's the Mio that works. Who knows.
As for old MIDI interfaces, though, I think this one was my first one: http://medias.audiofanzine.com/images/normal/m-audio-midisport-2x2-105567.jpg
wish they are all built like that!
I have the same, although differently packed and sold some years earlier under the Steinberg brand. Both use the same drivers. Still using it today, very reliable on Mac and PC.
Tried a MAudio M Track and I could confirm that it works just fine with a USB power hub.Its a cheap interface but it wort looking at since it has midi in and out plus inserts on each input, that a feature we don't see on cheap interfaces.
I could therefore recommend it if you looking for a budget solution for your ipad
I've been using the old Griffin StudioConnect for looping bass. I have an FCB1010 connected via MIDI. It works great, and charges the ipad. But, no USB-MIDI. And more importantly, the audio input is kinda noisy. Not to mention it only has RCA and 1/8" outputs.
So I've upgraded to the EIE, thanks to this thread. I would have preferred a Focusrite, but I really don't want to use a powered USB hub. And 4in/out would probably cost twice as much in a Focusrite box, I imagine. Anyways, I'm hoping to use it for some recording, but mostly as an interface for live looping. Right now I'd like to incorporate an electric bass (or three), a keyboard (audio), a USB-MIDI keyboard, a NanoKontrol2, and my FCB1010 (5 pin MIDI). I don't foresee any problems, hopefully. Either way, I'll report back once it shows up.
I want to buy a Xenyx-502usb but I need to use it with a quneo. Do I still a powered hub since the Xenyx doesn't draw any power? If so, can someone please recommend me a TINY powered usb hub. Maybe one with a rechargeable battery?
Hub with battery. Tough one. I found one a couple of years ago but it is unavailable now. OTOH you can use a NewTrent 12AH USB charger to run a regular powered hub, and it lasts for ages powering keyboards and audio interfaces. But you definitely need a hub anyway because you have more than one USB device, and USB cannot be merged any other way.
Hi guys
I get a little bit of a headache when it comes to picking out equipment. It gets even more difficult when it comes to looking for things that are compatible with my ipad 2. Especially when people start talking about camera connection kits. I've had a bad experience where I can't get my nanokey2 to work with ipad2 with the kit even though I had been informed it would work. obviously, I am a little reluctant to spend a lot of money on a midi interface if it doesn't work.
So my question is this. What midi interfaces work with ipad 2 using auria?
I'm sorry if this has been covered here before. Stephen
@duck_waddle said:
I'm envisioning a similar setup => curious to hear how this is working out for you!
Hello all, I'm still pretty new here, been reading the threads to learn more about Audiobus, which I just d/l'd to my iPad Air the other day. I'm a guitarist primarily, and for my uses, I can see how it will be pretty handy.
I also thought I'd just confirm what a few other folks here have mentioned. I use a Focusrite Scarlet 2i4 to get my guitar's signal into the mix. I plug my Air with CCD into a no-name powered hub I bought from MicroCenter for cheap, and I also plug my 2i4 into the same hub. Works perfectly for bringing the guitar signal into my iPad. Latency is negligible. One of my favorite settings so far is to run the guitar signal through Secret Bass Design's MIDIMorphosis and then into Camel Audio's Alchemy. Even the free version has a great variety of synths to choose from. I've also found the wide range of amplifier sims available in Garageband to be quite a treat as well. I feel like I've barely scratched the surface, though. There's tons of stuff out there and I can't wait to try more apps.
Thanks to this thread, I found out about the IconnectMIDI 4+ (but couldn't find any availability yet for the Iconnectaudio). This device appears to be a dream come true for the MIDI musician. And, despite being a guitarist, I'm definitely a MIDI musician. I have a Roland GR-33 guitar synth that can write directly to MIDI and that I can use as a MIDI controller, plus I have a couple of MIDI keyboards, and when I compose music, I usually import my compositions into my DAW software as MIDI, and then refine them from there. I've been modifying my DAW recently and have been wondering about latency and timing issues involved with using two PCs on the same MIDI bus. I have an older PC that I'm using mostly for a couple of older soundcards whose synth chips have some cool voices that I would still like to use. Sounds like the IconnectMIDI 4+ will take care of any issues I may have run into.
Another product I was unfamiliar with was Auria. I've read through its description and, despite it being relatively pricey for an app, I can see how I might be able to retire much of my DAW's gear just by using Auria with my iPad. Very impressive.
OK, back to lurk mode. Keep it up, guys.
Did have the Akai EIE PRO 24BIT still the Problems with iOS7?
is it still better to buy the 16Bit Version?
@duck_waddle said:
Hey, any updates on how it is going set up wise. I'm really interested in a midi + audio package for live looping but it needs to be battery powered. I presume you don't have that requirement?
Did have the Akai EIE PRO 24BIT still the Problems with iOS7?
is it still better to buy the "old" 16Bit version?
@duck_waddle said:
Another option instead of a powered hub is to use a portable USB battery backup. They vary widely in price, depending on brand and mAH output. But it's a nice option for portability's sake.
As for the price of Focusrite interfaces, sometimes if you're patient you can find a good deal. For example, the Focusrite Scarlett 2i4 sells new for about $200US, but I found a clean used one on eBay for $120 at auction. Looks as if it's never been used.
Nonetheless, now that you've gone for an EIE, I hope it works well for you.
So @cooltouch how would the set up using usb battery back up work? Ipad -> cck -> power backup -> usb hub -> devices? Do power backup thingies have lightning in and out? Confused. Any chance you could post a picture or a drawing? Cheers
Unfortunately none of the USB charger batteries implement USB hubs. I have no idea why, seems a no brainer. So you still need a powered USB hub just that you power it from the charger battery. Show up for a jam or gig fully charged, 12AH battery (such as New Trent), 4 port hub, CCK, QuNexus, QuNeo, nanoKONTROL2, and a Focustrite 2i2, with Air, you still get a reliable 6-8 hrs play time, the Air being the limiting factor.
@supadom: there is a thread on the Auria forums that shows how to set this up, it's pretty easy, you just need a battery pack that outputs 5A and a Y type USB cable - the whole set up should cost around $20:
http://auriaapp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=11150
cool thanks