Best modulation apps?

NeonSilicon

@raabje said:

@NeonSilicon said:

@raabje said:

With enough flexibility in the controls, flanger, chorus, vibrato, and modulated delay with feedback are all the same thing. So, playing around with an effect that gives you more control of where the differences in settings are can yield some pretty cool sounds.

Thanks for your explanation, nice.

You mention vibrato and that is also a difficult one for me. I get the feeling the notes or chords are out of tune, when used with other instruments. So I have no real purpose for it.

Tremolo can be cool at a very high rate, like the lead guitar on the first Interpol albums.

An interesting thing to try with vibrato is to take the input signal and split it into two bands with a low-pass and a high-pass filter and then send one to a tremolo and the other to a vibrato and then mix the results back together. It allows for all sorts of different sounds depending on how you use the LFO's on the two sections or the setting of the filters. For guitar, I like filter settings with low resonance (usually none), first-order filters, and set somewhere between 400Hz and 1.2kHz. I usually set both filters to the same cutoff frequency. But, all of these setting can be played with to get all sorts of different modulation effects. It's also fun to run different types of effects on the two signals. I like flanger on the low frequency section and chorus on the high for example. But, I thought that using a split of a tremolo and vibrato might be interesting for you since it might lessen some of the pitch instability that you don't like.

You can play around with these types of things in Drambo or other modular like apps.

sharifkerbage

@NeonSilicon said:

@raabje said:

@NeonSilicon said:

@raabje said:

With enough flexibility in the controls, flanger, chorus, vibrato, and modulated delay with feedback are all the same thing. So, playing around with an effect that gives you more control of where the differences in settings are can yield some pretty cool sounds.

Thanks for your explanation, nice.

You mention vibrato and that is also a difficult one for me. I get the feeling the notes or chords are out of tune, when used with other instruments. So I have no real purpose for it.

Tremolo can be cool at a very high rate, like the lead guitar on the first Interpol albums.

An interesting thing to try with vibrato is to take the input signal and split it into two bands with a low-pass and a high-pass filter and then send one to a tremolo and the other to a vibrato and then mix the results back together. It allows for all sorts of different sounds depending on how you use the LFO's on the two sections or the setting of the filters. For guitar, I like filter settings with low resonance (usually none), first-order filters, and set somewhere between 400Hz and 1.2kHz. I usually set both filters to the same cutoff frequency. But, all of these setting can be played with to get all sorts of different modulation effects. It's also fun to run different types of effects on the two signals. I like flanger on the low frequency section and chorus on the high for example. But, I thought that using a split of a tremolo and vibrato might be interesting for you since it might lessen some of the pitch instability that you don't like.

You can play around with these types of things in Drambo or other modular like apps.

Interesting!
Taking this idea.. I'm imagining using Multiband by Blue Mangoo and splitting the signal into 2, 3 or 4 bands.. and then process them independently

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LinearLineman

@Samu said:
BLEASS Motion FX and Audio Damage Quatromod are two I've been using a bit lately.

Can’t seem to find Quatromod in the App Store. Any idea?

michael_m

@LinearLineman said:

@Samu said:
BLEASS Motion FX and Audio Damage Quatromod are two I've been using a bit lately.

Can’t seem to find Quatromod in the App Store. Any idea?

Might be an error on their part - the product page shows an iOS version of Quatromod, but it links to Quanta Synth in the App Store.

sinosoidal

Have you tried DLYM? It is free and sounds great!

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/dlym-delay-modulator/id1381246923

DannyBoy

@sinosoidal said:
Have you tried DLYM? It is free and sounds great!

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/dlym-delay-modulator/id1381246923

I wish they would sell the fx section of their DRC synth as a separate app.

tahiche

@NeonSilicon said:

@raabje said:

@NeonSilicon said:

@raabje said:

With enough flexibility in the controls, flanger, chorus, vibrato, and modulated delay with feedback are all the same thing. So, playing around with an effect that gives you more control of where the differences in settings are can yield some pretty cool sounds.

Thanks for your explanation, nice.

You mention vibrato and that is also a difficult one for me. I get the feeling the notes or chords are out of tune, when used with other instruments. So I have no real purpose for it.

Tremolo can be cool at a very high rate, like the lead guitar on the first Interpol albums.

An interesting thing to try with vibrato is to take the input signal and split it into two bands with a low-pass and a high-pass filter and then send one to a tremolo and the other to a vibrato and then mix the results back together. It allows for all sorts of different sounds depending on how you use the LFO's on the two sections or the setting of the filters. For guitar, I like filter settings with low resonance (usually none), first-order filters, and set somewhere between 400Hz and 1.2kHz. I usually set both filters to the same cutoff frequency. But, all of these setting can be played with to get all sorts of different modulation effects. It's also fun to run different types of effects on the two signals. I like flanger on the low frequency section and chorus on the high for example. But, I thought that using a split of a tremolo and vibrato might be interesting for you since it might lessen some of the pitch instability that you don't like.

You can play around with these types of things in Drambo or other modular like apps.

Wow, interesting stuff @NeonSilicon !. I’d love to watch a few videos of you showcasing these!.
BTW ToneStack pro has frequency splitters and a ton of fx, one could probably do it all there and save as presets.

NeonSilicon

@tahiche said:

@NeonSilicon said:

@raabje said:

@NeonSilicon said:

@raabje said:

With enough flexibility in the controls, flanger, chorus, vibrato, and modulated delay with feedback are all the same thing. So, playing around with an effect that gives you more control of where the differences in settings are can yield some pretty cool sounds.

Thanks for your explanation, nice.

You mention vibrato and that is also a difficult one for me. I get the feeling the notes or chords are out of tune, when used with other instruments. So I have no real purpose for it.

Tremolo can be cool at a very high rate, like the lead guitar on the first Interpol albums.

An interesting thing to try with vibrato is to take the input signal and split it into two bands with a low-pass and a high-pass filter and then send one to a tremolo and the other to a vibrato and then mix the results back together. It allows for all sorts of different sounds depending on how you use the LFO's on the two sections or the setting of the filters. For guitar, I like filter settings with low resonance (usually none), first-order filters, and set somewhere between 400Hz and 1.2kHz. I usually set both filters to the same cutoff frequency. But, all of these setting can be played with to get all sorts of different modulation effects. It's also fun to run different types of effects on the two signals. I like flanger on the low frequency section and chorus on the high for example. But, I thought that using a split of a tremolo and vibrato might be interesting for you since it might lessen some of the pitch instability that you don't like.

You can play around with these types of things in Drambo or other modular like apps.

Wow, interesting stuff @NeonSilicon !. I’d love to watch a few videos of you showcasing these!.

Hmm, maybe. But it would mean that I'd have to learn how to make videos and get set up to do it.

BTW ToneStack pro has frequency splitters and a ton of fx, one could probably do it all there and save as presets.

There's probably several ways you can do this idea with multiple different setups. I think you could get pretty far with just routing in AUM and some modulation effects. But, one of the things that makes for more subtle and interesting interactions is being able to sync the LFO's even if they are running at different rates or phases. I used to do an effect for the Mac called DiTone that was based around the idea. Most of the R&D for that one was figuring out what types of LFO's to use and how to set up the control of them to be useful and cover a lot of range. That's mainly why I think a modular environment with the ability to use different types of LFO's and process them before the effects would be the most interesting way to do this.