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A Thread to Share Your Feelings (A Forum Support Group)

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  • @vasilymilovidov said:
    I think these past four days were the most stressful in my life. speaking as a man who've survived addiction and a grenade blast near his head in different points in life.

    Wishing you all the luck and peace where you can find it.

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  • @iOSTRAKON said:
    1. Therapist believes a traumatic brain injury (from my past) is the cause for my chronic sharp pain in my head / vertigo / anxiety / depression etc
    2. Appt with neurologist next Wednesday (yay)
    3. Can’t work until results are achieved from whatever CT scan / MRI
    4. The chance of getting answers or no substantial feedback is haunting me

    Hope your appointment goes well and that you get some peace of mind. Waiting for answers is hell.

  • @Blipsford_Baubie said:

    @McD said:
    After a year of Covid seclusion my wife got stomach pains and had to have a diseased gall bladder removed. CT Scales showed a cancerous mass in her chest. After coming home she had more intense pain and I took her back the ER and couldn't see anything wrong on the CT scans. They told me to take her home. I told them she needed pain management and made them keep her. After 3 days the scan revealed her intestines were punctured. They did 2 Colonscopies after the Gall Bladder surgery to check for cancer. The CT Scans and hospital records don't show any mistakes but you know how that goes.

    The surgeon goes in and performs a colostomy procedure but advised her to skip the procedure since she's about 90 lbs but has always been a failure to thrive person at 4' 11".
    But she's tough and she asked for the surgery and was in the ICU wasting away with sepsis for 3 weeks. But she pulled through and came home.

    Now we do weekly infusions for the cancer they discovered.

    You can plan on a great retirement but sometimes you get new orders and just have to deal with it. The chemo is really testing her resolve to keep going.

    We will do what we have always done. Endure and deal with it and find comfort in our children and grandchild.

    I'm glad my heath is good so I can provide care since she nursed me though 2 surgeries about 7 years ago after a car accident and a near stroke.

    Having this forum has made a difference to me but I can always find a home on line. This is a pretty good one except for the desktop app and hardware discussions that pull at my need to have the coolest toys. I'm really drooling on the new iPads and MacBooks.

    Is anyone else going through similar care giver stress with a loved one that's a 24x7 job?

    Not 24/7, but semi-similar story. To summarize, 2021 was three trips to bring my wife to the ER due to severe abdominal pain and vomiting. Scans showed nothing. Had to wait 6 months just to get a colonoscopy. Found a mass. Surgery during the holidays. Stage 3 colon cancer. Thankfully considered surgically cured. Currently undergoing chemo for risk reduction.

    It’s been a learning experience for me. I enjoy cooking more and no longer hate it the act of food prepping. I find that being relied upon more heavily by my six-year-old and wife has helped me tremendously with general overall depression. So when her battle is over, I think it wise that I do volunteer work with my son on a regular basis.

    But today is not one of those days. I am fucking tired I can’t even think. I don’t know how single moms, especially if they’re going to school, sustain this chronically. It’s relentless, I constantly do something. Work, laundry, cook, dishes, bills, driving to doctors, interrupted sleep (if I’m lucky) to ready my child for school. Get him from school. I’m texting this as I’m currently watching my wife get her hair cut off after her third round of chemo. I don’t watch tv, social media, meet-up for drink, video game, or waste spare time, yet the only time I have for music is with my phone while I’m taking a shit, my 15 minute break and :30 minute break at work. A few times a week after work when I should be going to sleep to get at least five hours I’ll stay up a half hour or so.

    I know with what’s going on in the world, plenty of people would envy my position and I’m coming across as a big baby. But I’m seizing this thread invite as an opportunity to talk about ME-E-E for once in my life, and unapologetically so. And if anyone has a problem with it, they can kiss my ass.

    Having to do it all by yourself is hard. The fact that you've been able to find any bright side in the whole situation is a testament to your character. Glad to hear your wife's cancer is considered surgically cured. Wishing you all the best for the future.

  • @vasilymilovidov said:
    I think these past four days were the most stressful in my life. speaking as a man who've survived addiction and a grenade blast near his head in different points in life.

    Not surprising in regards to the stress considering what we’ve been hearing here in the U.K.

    Sending Peace.

    🙏🏾

  • @iOSTRAKON said:
    1. Therapist believes a traumatic brain injury (from my past) is the cause for my chronic sharp pain in my head / vertigo / anxiety / depression etc
    2. Appt with neurologist next Wednesday (yay)
    3. Can’t work until results are achieved from whatever CT scan / MRI
    4. The chance of getting answers or no substantial feedback is haunting me

    I work for a charity helping people cope with the effects of acquired (often traumatic) brain injuries. All of those symptoms (and many more) can indeed be caused by brain injury, although anxiety and depression can be the result of PTSD from the traumatic experience itself. The up side of having an historic traumatic brain injury is that they tend not to get progressively worse. The down side is that there is no cure, only strategies for coping. It is what it is. The people who cope best are those who own it and don’t let it beat them. This is the life you have, try to enjoy it as best you can.

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    In the 16 years I have been with my wife she has been diagnosed with bipolar disorder, borderline personality disorder and schizoaffective disorder. Regardless of which diagnosis is correct, her mental health issues manifest as depression, anxiety, and worst of all, mania.
    When she is manic she is like a giant wrecking ball looking for the most destructive path possible. Her impulse control is non-existent. The money my mother left us from her 401k when she passed? Gambled away at a casino. Using meth intravenously? Sure, why not? Blowing $400 on Facebook games with money secretly taken from my account so many times I had to lock away my ATM card? Yep. She has taken me to the brink of financial ruin more times than I can count.
    She's currently serving 16 months probation for a Class A misdemeanor I won't bother to describe.
    Had it not been for our son (her son, technically, but I've been his dad since he was 4) I would have left many times. Every time things settle down and I can think about forgiveness all hell breaks loose yet again.
    When Anthony was in high school he started having anxiety issues like his mom so his psychiatrist prescribed him Zoloft. The morning after his first dose he began shaking uncontrollably. After many trips between neurologists and psychiatrists a month later someone was finally able to help him. He would still have the occasional twitch but nothing like the shaking he was dealing with before. But at the beginning of 2020 he began having headaches. A week in ICU later we learned he had an arterial stroke. He had brain surgery later that year and has suffered debilitating headaches off and on ever since.
    I'm trying to support the three of us while inflation eats away at my paycheck and medical problems for both my wife and son seem to pop up every day. I had hoped to somehow turn my music into a side hustle but I know that's just a pipe dream. Each day I tell myself, "Just keep putting one foot in front of the other" but sometimes I don't know why.

  • Thank you to everyone who has opened up. It has really helped me put my paltry challenges in perspective. Thoughts and prayers toward all.

  • My daughter goes to a private school that was started by the Russian community in the city. One of the teachers and one of the parents are Ukrainian, and the teacher just discovered that her parents’ home in Kyiv was destroyed by a missile strike (they are OK).

    As if that wasn’t bad enough, a letter was sent out implying that there has been verbal conflict on school property and asking that people need to be respectful to each other. As if that even needs to be said…

  • It is good to see the range of human existence and its challenges to help put your own problems into perspective. My wife's pain and the many, many years she supported me with her work and raising our children show me that I have debts to repay when she needs this help in her time of need.

    We generally put forward a sanitized version of ourself so we can avoid being judged by others as somehow deficient or less than others. But in reality we are all challenged to
    endure some pretty serious challenges and find a way to keep moving forward.

    There are no simple solutions for life's most serious challenges but it helps to express your pain and get some acknowledgement of your courage and tenacity to keep going.

    Please use this thread to share lifes challenges and get acknowledgement for your efforts to surmount them and endure.

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    This thread is the anti influencer/celebrity life is so easy if you're rich and famous thread. I love it. This is REAL life. Suffering, and the compassion but no-bull zone that comes with it.

    I do wish we could all be living the beautiful and easy life
    (but then we might just turn out to be selfish entitled assholes), but I do wish there wasn't quite so much on everyone's plate.

  • @wim said:
    Thank you to everyone who has opened up. It has really helped me put my paltry challenges in perspective. Thoughts and prayers toward all.

    My edits were becoming paragraphs of nonsense, so I decided to delete it and quote you instead. You summarized my thoughts about other people’s stories and that of my own. Thank you.

    @McD said:
    It is good to see the range of human existence and its challenges to help put your own problems into perspective. My wife's pain and the many, many years she supported me with her work and raising our children show me that I have debts to repay when she needs this help in her time of need.

    We generally put forward a sanitized version of ourself so we can avoid being judged by others as somehow deficient or less than others. But in reality we are all challenged to
    endure some pretty serious challenges and find a way to keep moving forward.

    There are no simple solutions for life's most serious challenges but it helps to express your pain and get some acknowledgement of your courage and tenacity to keep going.

    Please use this thread to share lifes challenges and get acknowledgement for your efforts to surmount them and endure.

    Thank you for starting this thread, it felt good to express in an unfiltered and unedited manner for once, as you said, we usually put forward a sanitized version of ourself…

    Thanks again to everyone else for sharing some of your more intimate thoughts and experiences. I have read them all, but chose not to comment on them all, simply because I don’t know what to say, other than I am extending love out to you all.

    @MadeofWax , my brother who passed last year was also schizoaffective. I am out of state and didn’t have to live with him on a day-to-day, but I witnessed how weary and frustrating and heart-breaking it was for my family.
    Thank you for sharing and for chiming in. I hope someday, soon, your wife’s mind can find some piece, and that your step-son gets better.(My stepson was also four years old when I met her. He’s 21 now and my son is six.

    @iOSTRAKON , I hope you find some answers, and if you don’t, I hope you make piece with not knowing.
    Thanks @audiblevideo and anyone else who even just took the time to read.

  • Thank you @Blipsford_Baubie . On her best days my wife is still the girl I fell in love with. Silly and spontaneous with a laugh that could melt the coldest of hearts. She has been doing the work. She's been in and out of mental health facilities, takes loads of meds and even tried electro convulsive therapy. It's just exhausting having to remain vigilant, never being able to trust the person you share your life with. I can't know what it's like from her side either. I know her remorse is real when her mania passes and the guilt feeds into her depression.
    As bad as his headaches are, I'm grateful that Anthony's brain surgery went as well as it did. The surgeon warned us of the worst case scenarios. Things could be much worse.
    I'm sorry to hear about your brother and the difficulties your family faced. I had no idea how challenging dealing with a loved one's mental health issues could be until l met my wife.
    Of all the places I could think of to share my life's troubles, an iOS music app forum probably wouldn't have been the first to come to mind. But it had been good to let it out and I thank everyone who shared their own troubles here, too.

  • I'm getting irritated with my roommate. He has this thing where the volume level on the TV has to be an odd number. I want to explode in anger towards him, but, I don't want him to move out because he is a good roommate. But, he always has to grab the remote when he walks in and check it.

  • @123rku0 said:
    I'm getting irritated with my roommate. He has this thing where the volume level on the TV has to be an odd number. I want to explode in anger towards him, but, I don't want him to move out because he is a good roommate. But, he always has to grab the remote when he walks in and check it.

    Sounds like an OCD compulsion. He's probably not going to even out. Does he show any other unusual compulsions like kitchen cabinet layouts? I've never been around anyone with confirmed OCD but I had a boss that told me he had it. I just found him to be excessively detailed oriented in his workplace products.

  • @McD said:

    @123rku0 said:
    I'm getting irritated with my roommate. He has this thing where the volume level on the TV has to be an odd number. I want to explode in anger towards him, but, I don't want him to move out because he is a good roommate. But, he always has to grab the remote when he walks in and check it.

    Sounds like an OCD compulsion. He's probably not going to even out. Does he show any other unusual compulsions like kitchen cabinet layouts? I've never been around anyone with confirmed OCD but I had a boss that told me he had it. I just found him to be excessively detailed oriented in his workplace products.

    It doesn’t necessarily need to be OCD - it could be ADHD - I do similar things to this because it helps me organize things in my head. Things have to be in a certain place, numbers are easier to remember if they are set out in a certain way. When things are off it’s harder to manage things, so I try to organize things in a way that makes sense to me. Even if it seems to someone else that there’s no benefit to doing it that way, it can make a big difference to me. Even things like putting my keys in the ‘wrong’ pocket is hard to deal with - I have to take them out and put them in the ‘right’ pocket as then I stop worrying about forgetting my keys.

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    @michael_m said:
    It doesn’t necessarily need to be OCD - it could be ADHD - I do similar things to this because it helps me organize things in my head. Things have to be in a certain place, numbers are easier to remember if they are set out in a certain way. When things are off it’s harder to manage things, so I try to organize things in a way that makes sense to me. Even if it seems to someone else that there’s no benefit to doing it that way, it can make a big difference to me. Even things like putting my keys in the ‘wrong’ pocket is hard to deal with - I have to take them out and put them in the ‘right’ pocket as then I stop worrying about forgetting my keys.

    Everything in your list is an optimization to avoid some type of pain or worry.

    Wanting the volume to be set to 3 or 5 but never 4 is clearly NOT and optimization. It's either
    a superstition or OCD behavior or this person is really fucking around with the housemate for one of many potential reasons.

    That's how I FEEL about it. (Trying to keep the thread free from casual bloviation in an optimal manner).

  • Thanks and sympathies to all those sharing their hard yards. I just__ wanted to say I’m one of many reading them, wishing you all well, and I hope that knowing that helps in some way.

  • @McD said:

    @123rku0 said:
    I'm getting irritated with my roommate. He has this thing where the volume level on the TV has to be an odd number. I want to explode in anger towards him, but, I don't want him to move out because he is a good roommate. But, he always has to grab the remote when he walks in and check it.

    Sounds like an OCD compulsion. He's probably not going to even out. Does he show any other unusual compulsions like kitchen cabinet layouts? I've never been around anyone with confirmed OCD but I had a boss that told me he had it. I just found him to be excessively detailed oriented in his workplace products.

    No, there is nothing else unusual. I asked him years ago why the volume needs to be odd. He said he has been doing it all his life and no other reason why.

  • @McD said:

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:
    I've been a little depressed lately due to petty workplace nonsense. Then Putin invaded and reinforced the fact that humans can be irrationally terrible to each other. I'm fortunate in that I am financially secure and have lots of love at home with my wife and our animals, so my mental health should recuperate eventually, but it will take longer now due to Putin. My troubles are nothing compared to people living in a war zone. I feel for all humans who are suffering right now for any reason.

    It's good that you can feel for others.

    I decided to pay for the person behind me in the drive through for coffee this AM. Random acts of kindness help me more than the person behind me since I just feel helpless to reform the world but I can try and make someone feel marginally better for the act.

    I love this, nice one. Since adopting a shelter puppy recently, i have seen so much more goodness around me. Having a pet, and walking him 2 or 3 hours per day, has upped the quality of my everyday interactions with strangers by multitudes. Not to mention the love I get from this adorable baby himself. But yes, random acts of kindness do so much. If we all did one every day, imagine what a great world we'd be living in.

  • @LinearLineman said:
    This thread may reveal an unexpected (or expected) cornucopia of ills. Especially since the demographic skews toward the geriatric. We all know that as we age the conversation turns from pussies to prostates… I can’t at the moment think of a female equivalent. Irregularity is universal, tho, and always a crowd pleaser,

    I, myself, am dealing with my exwife partner’s recent diagnosis of Alzheimer’s. She’s 67 and was a talented psychologist who also previously trained as a physician’s assistant. So… extremely smart…. Was, anyway. The decline has been rapid, and, tho a cure is certainly near (within five years the neurologist said) it is a horse race to see if she might be well enough to benefit… or even tolerate treatment if one arises in a year or three,

    It’s such a different disease. A patient with cancer can use their mind to deal with and accept the difficulty. Dementia attacks the very tool we use to negotiate such troubled waters. There is only embarrassment, confusion, depression, mood swings and, of course, you can’t remember a fucking thing,

    There are still good moments, but I can see the personality changes beginning. One day in the near future she will hate me as much as she once loved me. There is only one directive for me. Patience.

    I feel you Mike, my mother is going through the same thing with her partner, whose dementia is getting worse by the month. Very tough disease to deal with. Soon it will reach the point where he no longer knows who she is.... That's when it will get really hard.

  • @audiblevideo said:
    Can recommend:

    • Man's Search for Meaning
      — Victor Frankl

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man's_Search_for_Meaning

    I've not got too many worries
    Dad passed. Taking care of mom. Brother and sister-in-law are both behind the health 8-ball esp with covid around.

    Me. Weird pains, sharp itching in feet (no diabetes), muscle twitching comes and goes...
    The most annoying part is not knowing the source yet... and waking up before the crack of dawn for no f*cking reason.

    What really drives me crazy are all the signs that the world in general is in dire trouble, but no one seems to want to really and substantively (by government and corporate action and the parting of large sums of cash) address it.

    It being: plastic and chemical pollution, degradation of our fresh water, loss of habitat for wildlife, extinctions, overfishing, ocean acidification, loss of and lack of homes, droughts fires floods - all from climate change... the general apprehension when vast swaths of your citizenry are suffering from both a lack of basic scientific understanding and are swayed to extremism by propaganda, and now the looming threat of possible nuclear confrontation by an insane man with delusions of empire and grandeur.

    Kinda makes me not want to take the books* advise.

    I'd look into a diagnosis of fibromyalgia for this. If you do have this, antidepressants like Zoloft can do amazing things for your pain and stiffness.

  • @MadeofWax said:
    In the 16 years I have been with my wife she has been diagnosed with bipolar disorder, borderline personality disorder and schizoaffective disorder. Regardless of which diagnosis is correct, her mental health issues manifest as depression, anxiety, and worst of all, mania.
    When she is manic she is like a giant wrecking ball looking for the most destructive path possible. Her impulse control is non-existent. The money my mother left us from her 401k when she passed? Gambled away at a casino. Using meth intravenously? Sure, why not? Blowing $400 on Facebook games with money secretly taken from my account so many times I had to lock away my ATM card? Yep. She has taken me to the brink of financial ruin more times than I can count.
    She's currently serving 16 months probation for a Class A misdemeanor I won't bother to describe.
    Had it not been for our son (her son, technically, but I've been his dad since he was 4) I would have left many times. Every time things settle down and I can think about forgiveness all hell breaks loose yet again.
    When Anthony was in high school he started having anxiety issues like his mom so his psychiatrist prescribed him Zoloft. The morning after his first dose he began shaking uncontrollably. After many trips between neurologists and psychiatrists a month later someone was finally able to help him. He would still have the occasional twitch but nothing like the shaking he was dealing with before. But at the beginning of 2020 he began having headaches. A week in ICU later we learned he had an arterial stroke. He had brain surgery later that year and has suffered debilitating headaches off and on ever since.
    I'm trying to support the three of us while inflation eats away at my paycheck and medical problems for both my wife and son seem to pop up every day. I had hoped to somehow turn my music into a side hustle but I know that's just a pipe dream. Each day I tell myself, "Just keep putting one foot in front of the other" but sometimes I don't know why.

    Jesus. That's a hard story to hear and my heart goes out to you. About addictive tendencies, I don't know if you have ever watched the 'Soft White Underbelly' youtube channel. This more than anything has made me feel compassion for the addicts, insane, homeless, pimps, prostitutes and tricks, and all the other people that are barely functioning on the margins of society. I sometimes feel uncomfortable with the interviewer's style, but overall these show that everyone has their story. What blows my mind is how likeable and self aware most of them are.

    This also reminds me of something I read in Graeber's Dawn of Everything. When the white man came to America, preaching his supposed enlightenment, Native Americans were appalled that a society presenting itself as far superior to theirs would tolerate things such as homelessness. In fact, the book argues that Native American thought was instrumental in shaping European Enlightenment thinking.

    We've lost our way.... This is for sure. Mental illness is a very rare phenomenon in all traditional cultures. How to find the way back to sanity, as a society, is a huge question with no easy answers.

  • @McD said:

    @michael_m said:
    It doesn’t necessarily need to be OCD - it could be ADHD - I do similar things to this because it helps me organize things in my head. Things have to be in a certain place, numbers are easier to remember if they are set out in a certain way. When things are off it’s harder to manage things, so I try to organize things in a way that makes sense to me. Even if it seems to someone else that there’s no benefit to doing it that way, it can make a big difference to me. Even things like putting my keys in the ‘wrong’ pocket is hard to deal with - I have to take them out and put them in the ‘right’ pocket as then I stop worrying about forgetting my keys.

    Everything in your list is an optimization to avoid some type of pain or worry.

    Wanting the volume to be set to 3 or 5 but never 4 is clearly NOT and optimization. It's either
    a superstition or OCD behavior or this person is really fucking around with the housemate for one of many potential reasons.

    That's how I FEEL about it. (Trying to keep the thread free from casual bloviation in an optimal manner).

    McD: FWIW, it is common for ADHDers (especially the impulsive sub-type) to exhibit this sort of thing...it exhibits itself on a smaller scale than OCD. There may be some similar brain chemistry involved. Some things (and it can be unpredictable and changing) can give one a sense of order or harmony that is unique to the person for reasons that might not make sense to someone else.

    ADHD can be pretty confusing in its presentation...it can result in impulses being acted on that everyone has.

    Even professionals get confused by it. Our son spend a few years when he was in primary school seeing a psychologist because he was acting out in school. There was improvement for a while and then it got worse again. When the psychologist finally saw him in a dysregulated state, she was like: "this is brain chemistry, we need to figure out what that's about." That set us on a path that led to learning about ADHD (about which I was initially skeptical ... because people of my generation were led to believe it was a bogus diagnosis).

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  • @Gavinski said:

    @MadeofWax said:
    In the 16 years I have been with my wife she has been diagnosed with bipolar disorder, borderline personality disorder and schizoaffective disorder. Regardless of which diagnosis is correct, her mental health issues manifest as depression, anxiety, and worst of all, mania.
    When she is manic she is like a giant wrecking ball looking for the most destructive path possible. Her impulse control is non-existent. The money my mother left us from her 401k when she passed? Gambled away at a casino. Using meth intravenously? Sure, why not? Blowing $400 on Facebook games with money secretly taken from my account so many times I had to lock away my ATM card? Yep. She has taken me to the brink of financial ruin more times than I can count.
    She's currently serving 16 months probation for a Class A misdemeanor I won't bother to describe.
    Had it not been for our son (her son, technically, but I've been his dad since he was 4) I would have left many times. Every time things settle down and I can think about forgiveness all hell breaks loose yet again.
    When Anthony was in high school he started having anxiety issues like his mom so his psychiatrist prescribed him Zoloft. The morning after his first dose he began shaking uncontrollably. After many trips between neurologists and psychiatrists a month later someone was finally able to help him. He would still have the occasional twitch but nothing like the shaking he was dealing with before. But at the beginning of 2020 he began having headaches. A week in ICU later we learned he had an arterial stroke. He had brain surgery later that year and has suffered debilitating headaches off and on ever since.
    I'm trying to support the three of us while inflation eats away at my paycheck and medical problems for both my wife and son seem to pop up every day. I had hoped to somehow turn my music into a side hustle but I know that's just a pipe dream. Each day I tell myself, "Just keep putting one foot in front of the other" but sometimes I don't know why.

    Jesus. That's a hard story to hear and my heart goes out to you. About addictive tendencies, I don't know if you have ever watched the 'Soft White Underbelly' youtube channel. This more than anything has made me feel compassion for the addicts, insane, homeless, pimps, prostitutes and tricks, and all the other people that are barely functioning on the margins of society. I sometimes feel uncomfortable with the interviewer's style, but overall these show that everyone has their story. What blows my mind is how likeable and self aware most of them are.

    This also reminds me of something I read in Graeber's Dawn of Everything. When the white man came to America, preaching his supposed enlightenment, Native Americans were appalled that a society presenting itself as far superior to theirs would tolerate things such as homelessness. In fact, the book argues that Native American thought was instrumental in shaping European Enlightenment thinking.

    We've lost our way.... This is for sure. Mental illness is a very rare phenomenon in all traditional cultures. How to find the way back to sanity, as a society, is a huge question with no easy answers.

    Thank you for your kind words @Gavinski. Over the last 16 years I have learned far more about addiction and mental illness than I ever expected to. I’ve spoken with psychiatrist and done research to try and help, but also to cope. As angry as I get with the aftermath of my wife’s manic episodes I know this isn’t something she chose for herself.

  • @espiegel123 said:

    @McD said:

    @michael_m said:
    It doesn’t necessarily need to be OCD - it could be ADHD - I do similar things to this because it helps me organize things in my head. Things have to be in a certain place, numbers are easier to remember if they are set out in a certain way. When things are off it’s harder to manage things, so I try to organize things in a way that makes sense to me. Even if it seems to someone else that there’s no benefit to doing it that way, it can make a big difference to me. Even things like putting my keys in the ‘wrong’ pocket is hard to deal with - I have to take them out and put them in the ‘right’ pocket as then I stop worrying about forgetting my keys.

    Everything in your list is an optimization to avoid some type of pain or worry.

    Wanting the volume to be set to 3 or 5 but never 4 is clearly NOT and optimization. It's either
    a superstition or OCD behavior or this person is really fucking around with the housemate for one of many potential reasons.

    That's how I FEEL about it. (Trying to keep the thread free from casual bloviation in an optimal manner).

    McD: FWIW, it is common for ADHDers (especially the impulsive sub-type) to exhibit this sort of thing...it exhibits itself on a smaller scale than OCD. There may be some similar brain chemistry involved. Some things (and it can be unpredictable and changing) can give one a sense of order or harmony that is unique to the person for reasons that might not make sense to someone else.

    ADHD can be pretty confusing in its presentation...it can result in impulses being acted on that everyone has.

    Even professionals get confused by it. Our son spend a few years when he was in primary school seeing a psychologist because he was acting out in school. There was improvement for a while and then it got worse again. When the psychologist finally saw him in a dysregulated state, she was like: "this is brain chemistry, we need to figure out what that's about." That set us on a path that led to learning about ADHD (about which I was initially skeptical ... because people of my generation were led to believe it was a bogus diagnosis).

    Ironically I was never diagnosed as a kid (and only got tested and diagnosed when I was 51) but was also skeptical about it. What I had some doubts about in kids was actually something I was diagnosed with myself.

    Fortunately I had developed a number of coping strategies throughout my life without realizing it, but the diagnosis gave me a whole new perspective on what kids might be going through, as it made me realize that my way of thinking and doing things wasn't particularly typical of what most people do. Until I discussed it with people I honestly had no clue how wildly different some of my thought processes are from other people.

  • Man, I'm in tears reading this... once again I am taught the lesson of you never know what is going on in someone else's life! I am sooooooo so sorry for what some of you or all of us are going through. I too have had the same experiences as some. My depression seemed to get a bit better but its back. Prayers to all of us. hopefully this too shall pass.

    Charlie

  • edited March 2022

    So much courage shown in this thread. My heart goes out to all who've shared their challenges.

    I have "alcoholics" (in AA parlance, I use quotes because alcohol was not always the drug of choice), folks affected by alcoholism, and significant mental health issues in my immediate family. So I can certainly relate to what's been shared here. As many have already shared, coping and attempting to thrive is a daily task for everyone and there are many ups and downs.

    While I don't post often, I feel like a fair number of my posts have been to comment on what a special place this is. :) Thanks @McD for creating this space.

  • @McD said:
    Is anyone else going through similar care giver stress with a loved one that's a 24x7 job?

    Meekly raises hand.

    I just went through a three-year stint of being a full-time caregiver for my wife, who has Alzheimer's. We recently moved her to a memory care residence, as it became impossible to keep her at home.

    It's the 24/7ness of the situation that gets to you. I imagine it's like going to war or being in prison, as it would be hard to wrap your head around, unless you've been through it. When you're in the middle of it, you just want it to end. It takes over your life.

    Having a creative hobby helps.

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