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DSP56300 emulation - Virus B/C/SNOW Synth VST/AU

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  • EschatoneEschatone
    edited March 2022

    @MichaelRocketship said:
    There was no EQ on the virus B. I think there’s a few other differences. No analog modelled filter maybe? I gather the C is basically an updated B (I’ve only ever had hands on a B ). Meaning the B is technically a less capable synth.

    With that said, the B rom has less of a CPU hit so you might find it performs better on your machine.

    This has stopped being an issue for me as they’ve optimised it a lot from when it was first released, but previously I could only use the B ROM without dropouts.

    The UI doesn’t adjust according to the ROM loaded. It’s be nice if it removed options/features that weren’t available. Could be on their to do list.

    The rate the development has progressed is amazing!

    Ah, I suspected that might be the case re: the B EQ.. Thanks for the confirmation!

    I’m on Apple Silicon, so I guess there’s no need for me to keep the B rom around. It’s quite well optimized, barely touching 5 or 6% DSP on most patches — though I haven’t tried the multitimbral functionality yet, so not sure if that will scale linearly with added layers. Plenty of headroom, either way.

    It’s definitely an exciting project, I’m so glad I discovered it via this thread!

  • ciancian

    Agreed. It's kind of ridiculous how many good free synths there are now. Surge, Vital and Odin alone are enough for most of my needs.

  • bobalinkbobalink

    Hi, Can anyone explain where you put what folders to make this work on a mac please? Thanks!

  • bobalinkbobalink

    do you have to run the virus test console whilst logic is running?

  • bobalinkbobalink

    what MAC OS do you have it running on with which version of Logic - it seems to fail validation for me sadly!

  • cryptonymcryptonym
    edited July 2022

    @bobalink said:
    Hi, Can anyone explain where you put what folders to make this work on a mac please? Thanks!

    this video should get you up and running. not sure about Logic but it runs great it Ableton on my M1.

  • cyberheatercyberheater

    jason said:
    Did someone try the latest release?

    As a former owner of a real Virus B (sold it 5 years ago) I”ve tried to compose something with this emulator. With the B ROM and also with the C ROM.

    It sounded all so good in the description. But in reality it just was not working well. A few voices did put it into knee…

    Sound wise, with just a gently played patch it was OK and also sounded real.
    But multi-timbre / channel, which is one of the main advantages of using the Virus, just lets collapse everything.
    Even on the M1, I was not able to get it running any stable. And this was not a CPU problem, as there was loads of headroom left…

    I’ve got a MacBook Air M1 and had no problems playing this with low cpu usage.

  • wimwim
    edited January 2023

    @bobalink said:
    Hi, Can anyone explain where you put what folders to make this work on a mac please? Thanks!

    Look at the commands below. The paths that the commands are run on shows you where they need to go for each plugin type. Note: you also need to load just one ROM file in each of those folders. If you load more than one, it's unpredictable which will be chosen when the plugin is scanned.

    Be sure to run these commands in the terminal after placing the files and before scanning for the plugin in any host. Also be sure the selected ROM file is in the folder before scanning. Otherwise the scan will fail.

    sudo xattr -cr /Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/VST3/DSP56300Emu.vst3
sudo xattr -cr /Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/VST/DSP56300Emu.vst
sudo xattr -cr /Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/Components/DSP56300Emu.component

    This information is available on the blog post for the project. It's well worth reading and understanding. https://dsp56300.wordpress.com/downloads/

  • joegrant413joegrant413

    Just found out about this whole emulator concept.

    As of March 2023, how tough is it to try this for the first time? I don't want to spend a ton of time figuring out folders and futzing around with installation oddities. I have a MacBook M1, and expect to get an M2 this month.

    Thanks.

  • lazyasslazyass

    @joegrant413 said:
    Just found out about this whole emulator concept.

    As of March 2023, how tough is it to try this for the first time? I don't want to spend a ton of time figuring out folders and futzing around with installation oddities. I have a MacBook M1, and expect to get an M2 this month.

    Thanks.

    You definitely should try it out. Latest release has optimized CPU consumption and has classic installer without need to hassle with Virus ROMS. Honestly, I still don't get into preset system, but sound quality leaves most of vst synth in the dust. Based there's a hope for Ti and Micro Q emus in near future, I think it's worth to invest some time into this platform.

  • joegrant413joegrant413

    Thanks! I'm hoping that it comes with a few classic synths to start. Or that it's easy to find and install the classic synth ROMs to get started.

    Currently, is this the best place to start? Or are there articles and how-to beginner guides that are better?

    https://dsp56300.wordpress.com/

  • joegrant413joegrant413

    @lazyass I just reread your post. Sounds like I'm getting ahead of myself to ask about the ROMs, and should just take some first steps with the initial installation.

  • cyberheatercyberheater

    @joegrant413 said:
    Thanks! I'm hoping that it comes with a few classic synths to start. Or that it's easy to find and install the classic synth ROMs to get started.

    Currently, is this the best place to start? Or are there articles and how-to beginner guides that are better?

    https://dsp56300.wordpress.com/

    That's the best place to start. You need to find a Virus B or C rom (just google it)

  • cyberheatercyberheater

    OsTIrus Emulator for Access Virus TI/Snow now released.

    https://dsp56300.wordpress.com/

  • dendydendy

    @cyberheater said:
    OsTIrus Emulator for Access Virus TI/Snow now released.

    https://dsp56300.wordpress.com/

    works like a breeze, cpu load on mac m1 comparable with Serum … Model D needs around 10-15% more CPU

  • cyberheatercyberheater
    edited April 2024

    @dendy said:

    @cyberheater said:
    OsTIrus Emulator for Access Virus TI/Snow now released.

    https://dsp56300.wordpress.com/

    works like a breeze, cpu load on mac m1 comparable with Serum … Model D needs around 10-15% more CPU

    It sounds fantastic. I'm very much enjoying these emulations.
    I like the fact that you can select between 2 roms.

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    edited May 2024
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  • dendydendy

    They are working on Waldorf Microwave XT emulator as next step and then probably (hopefully !!) amazing Nord Lead 2 !!! Can’t wait for those, my absolutely top most facourite HW synths of all times, especially Nord Lead 2

  • SergiuSergiu

    Is it a hassle to install these emulators on a Mac?

  • dendydendy
    edited May 2024

    @Sergiu said:
    Is it a hassle to install these emulators on a Mac?

    Nope, works like a breeze on my Macbook Air M1

    one detail which a struggled a bit - after you copy all files (plugin itself + corresponding synth rom files) into plugins directory (~/Library/Audio/Plugins/Components for AU plugins) dont forget to run command

    sudo xattr -cr *

    from within plugins folder - otherwise becasue of some security policy MacOS will delete the plugins next time you run Logic whuch tries to access plugins files ..

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  • SergiuSergiu
    edited May 2024

    Is it just Logic? I use Live> and that command you run it in Terminal, right? @dendy said:

    @Sergiu said:
    Is it a hassle to install these emulators on a Mac?

    Nope, works like a breeze on my Macbook Air M1

    one detail which a struggled a bit - after you copy all files (plugin itself + corresponding synth rom files) into plugins directory (~/Library/Audio/Plugins/Components for AU plugins) dont forget to run command

    sudo xattr -cr *

    from within plugins folder - otherwise becasue of some security policy MacOS will delete the plugins next time you run Logic whuch tries to access plugins files ..

  • dendydendy

    @Sergiu said:
    Is it just Logic? I use Live and that command you run it in Terminal, right?

    Terminal yes…

    I installed just AU version of plugin.. I think there is also VST .. no idea if Live on Mac supports AU plugins (i guess it does?)

  • wimwim
    edited May 2024

    @Sergiu said:
    Is it just Logic? I use Live> and that command you run it in Terminal, right? @dendy said:

    @Sergiu said:
    Is it a hassle to install these emulators on a Mac?

    Nope, works like a breeze on my Macbook Air M1

    one detail which a struggled a bit - after you copy all files (plugin itself + corresponding synth rom files) into plugins directory (~/Library/Audio/Plugins/Components for AU plugins) dont forget to run command

    sudo xattr -cr *

    from within plugins folder - otherwise becasue of some security policy MacOS will delete the plugins next time you run Logic whuch tries to access plugins files ..

    Make sure you're in the right directory before you run that! You definitely don't want to run that front the wrong place!
    Also, note, on my Mac that folder is different: ~/Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/Components

    It might be safer to run:
    sudo xattr -cr ~/Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/Components/*

    I would also first run:
    ls -lR ~/Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/Components/*
    and look at the output to verify it looks like the right files are there and that the folder is valid.

    Sorry, but it scares me when people offer system level (sudo) command-lines, not knowing how technical the person running them may be.

  • dendydendy
    edited May 2024

    @wim said:

    @Sergiu said:
    Is it just Logic? I use Live> and that command you run it in Terminal, right? @dendy said:

    @Sergiu said:
    Is it a hassle to install these emulators on a Mac?

    Nope, works like a breeze on my Macbook Air M1

    one detail which a struggled a bit - after you copy all files (plugin itself + corresponding synth rom files) into plugins directory (~/Library/Audio/Plugins/Components for AU plugins) dont forget to run command

    sudo xattr -cr *

    from within plugins folder - otherwise becasue of some security policy MacOS will delete the plugins next time you run Logic whuch tries to access plugins files ..

    Make sure you're in the right directory before you run that! You definitely don't want to run that front the wrong place!
    Also, note, on my Mac that folder is different: ~/Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/Components

    It might be safer to run:
    sudo xattr -cr ~/Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/Components/*

    I would also first run:
    ls -lR ~/Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/Components/*
    and look at the output to verify it looks like the right files are there and that the folder is valid.

    Sorry, but it scares me when people offer system level (sudo) command-lines, not knowing how technical the person running them may be

    thanks for detailed explanation and fixing my missed "Plug-Ins" folder in path, i am idiot (facepalm), i also always forget that using comandline may be completely unknown tech somebody :-) i was never good teacher :-))

  • SergiuSergiu

    Thanks guys! I kinda imagined I need extra attention with these emulators

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