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OT: Discussion re new iPads with no headphone jack...
Was thinking about this and wondering if Apple will authorise a duel USB-C/Thunderbolt adaptor? As there does not appear to be one that allows audio and a USB connection (as in the old CCK), and preferably with a charging port as well ,maybe dual port one might be the way to go?
How are others figuring out the lack of headphone jack?
It's the one thing stopping me from upgrading my iPads.
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I’m figuring it out by not getting one. I (first world problem) hate the fact that my iPhone has no headphone jack.
I'll handle it like with the Macbooks: Wait until Apple release an iPad with proper connectivity again
I just sold my iPad Pro M1 with only USB-C and went back to a iPad Pro 10.5 with headphone jacket. Happy with it.
They might bring back the headphone jack but I really wouldn't hold my breath (the headphone jack never went away from MacBooks, it just got upgraded in the latest MBPs).
For my M1 iPad, the answer is a Thunderbolt dock with an interface plugged into it driving the headphones, or a USB-C headphone dongle when I'm away from my desk. The dock also provides charging, Ethernet, and several ports of USB-C and USB-A. It was kind of expensive but it's very fast and very solid. No regrets.
I just went with the current 2021 9th generation ipad - with headphone jack still included!
Same
I'll wait at least until the 8th to see if the iPad 9 also gets and update and if it does will it keep the 3.5mm jack?
...at the moment I want an iPad that Apple doesn't even make. ie. one with 3.5mm jack and USB-C...
Yes that is what I am looking at, but my Pro 12" gen 1 is starting to get a bit long in the tooth, hence the probable need for a new 12 pro...critical in my case.
Further, I know there are interfaces to use and that is fine in the studio, but I use my rig for live shows and needing to find space, power etc etc for another device is not preferable
TBH, and only going on the iPhone history, once apple remove them they are gone...not seen them even HINT at re-introducing for the iPhone series. But, "never say never" I guess.
They got rid of the touch ribbon on the MacBook Pros. They went back to a keyboard design that works. They've made reversals (eventually).
Yes, one can only hope sigh
But removing the headphone jack on the iPhone and new iPad Pros ranks high on my list of their most irksome decisions.
If the choice is between having a headphone jack and having to bring adapters, powerbanks, hubs, etc (because of lightning port), or no headphone jack and not having to deal with any adatpers, hubs, "does this supply enough power" issues, the choice is easy. Keep your headphone jack.
Theres a bazillion usb-c hubs...most of which have a headphone jack.
doublepost ...arrrrgh
I’m hoping that someone invents a very low latency Bluetooth solution.
I read a rumor that Apple is working on low latency wireless audio, but it will not be Bluetooth
I have 0 issues using an aptX dongle. The latency issue is what the default interval in iOS is programmed to.
Not when playing VST instruments and backing tracks using Bluetooth
@AlmostAnonymous said:
literally do this all day. im ~5ms lag on the audio stream. the audio bluetooth is separate from the midi bluetooth. The dongle acts as an audio interface (out only). The world has been using wireless IEMs forever as well for shows.
pretty much any usb BT5 dongle will cut your BT latency in 1/2 if not more. just gotta make sure your BT audio codecs line up.
NO NO NO NO NO NO
If I were commuting again I would have definitely just get a base model for the headphone jack but since I am not I got a 2021 Pro. The USB C speeds are awesome. Absolutely fantastic with a Samgsung T7 drive.
........aaaaand another double post
Of course they are. Firewire! Lightning! 🙄
knowing apple, they'll increase the bandwidth for lossless audio, and increase the buffer as well, so you'll send up with latency consistent with airpods. Theyre already fine with its latency.
Wireless IEM’s work by radio, not Bluetooth. Bluetooth has latency because it compresses then decompresses the audio data. BT5 may be a little faster (I don’t know if it is faster than previous generations) but Bluetooth has too much latency for real-time music making.
What’s the problem with the inexpensive but good Apple headphone dongle? I just keep it hanging on my headphones. At home I’m using my audio interface anyway. For off-grid setups with Midi gear I’m using a USB-C Hub with PD and a power bank.
Would I use mine live, no. But it's 100x better than AirPods and built in iOS Bluetooth.
Firewire was/is an open standard that beat the pants off of anything else that was out at the time. Prior to that if you wanted to move big chunks of data you were messing around with SCSI chains. USB didn't exist at the time. So, I don't really get the eyeroll there. When lightning shipped, the alternative was micro-USB, so I personally say thank goodness for lightning! Or do you wish iPhones still had the huge 30-pin connector?
For reasons discussed elsewhere on the thread, Bluetooth will never achieve low-latency, so if Apple wants to develop something truly low-latency, they'll have to use something other than Bluetooth. If everyone limits themselves to technology that already exists, then progress stops.
I really don't understand the implied position that Apple isn't supposed to introduce any new technology until it's already a well-adopted industry standard. I'm old enough to remember that it was Apple that finally popularized USB, and that was good for the whole industry. That actually replaced a bunch of proprietary interfaces on Macs (ADB, Apple Serial, AppleTalk).