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Out of curiosity, does the hold/non-hold detection work with a shorter timeout than Loopy's defer action imposes?
Hey @espiegel123 - I did notice that on the first pairing in system Bluettooth, it also connected as a BLE Midi device. But you'll find that after you turn the device off and back on you do need to connect with the BLE Midi control panel.
Humm ... I haven't timed it. I'm not sure how I could.
The advantage though is Loopy doesn't need to defer action at all if you do it in the foot switch. Even a long press just looks like a short press to Loopy.
As a heads-up to anyone using the Mac software. It only works over USB connection. This took me a long time to figure out. On iOS you only need to pair the device in system Bluetooth settings. On the Mac it'll just sit there waiting for a device even if you Bluetooth pair it until you connect via USB.
That said, the Mac software is easier to understand. Interestingly, you can configure the device over USB on the Mac even as it's connected to iOS over BLE Midi.
I just use the iOS software now that I understand it, but the Mac software was helpful in figuring things out.
The unit came today. Now I have to figure out what is the best setting for Loopy Pro.
I will search on the web a bit more. As far as I can see, there is a choice between sending PC commands and CC. This is good info
https://forum.mod.audio/t/midi-chocolate-controller-with-the-mod-dwarf-an-introduction/7003
You want to send cc’s otherwise there isn’t a press event and a release event. You generally want that option as sometimes you may want press/release based actions.
Here's how I use the Chocolate with Loopy Pro in case it's of any help.
I leverage the Advanced Custom Mode of the Chocolate to send different CC's on long press of the switches, giving me 8 distinct controls. Yes, Loopy Pro can detect long-presses itself, but there are some downsides to doing so.
I have short press sending CC 20, 21, 22, 23, and long tap sending CC 24, 25, 26, and 27.
Loopy Pro midi bindings strategy is to use the first two switches navigate to the clip that the other two switches will work on.
Short Press
Long Press (appears as short press to Loopy)
This keeps things clean in my mind. First get to a clip (using the first two buttons), then work on it with the second two buttons.
Thanks Wim for this info, great! I can see that is a setup that could work. Tomorrow I have some time to do it as you described.
@wim
I think I have it working. Programmed the Chocolate as described. In Loopy Pro I created 8 buttons to control the clips and midi bind this to the foot controller.
Only thing is I found Toggle clock in the list, not start/stop. But I think it is the same? I have to start learning this setup first.
The Toggle Clock action has options to start, stop or toggle.
Thanks, I see I had chosen "toggle" for this button, so with a long press on button C the main clock starts, and with a second long press, the main clock stops. So this is what Wim has described.
Next thing is set it up in AUM with Enso. That is probably pretty easy, only one button needed to trigger the recording of a single instance. So with 4 knobs in bank A, I can trigger 4 instances of Enso.
Or just keep it to one Enso instance and use the knobs for trigger - start - stop - clear and more when I use bank B (long press) too.
@wim : is it your understanding that when configuring the chocolate to have different short and long press messages that it sends only one one message per press/release? (i.e. not one message on press and another on release)
It can do either. I have it configured to send 127 on press and 0 on release. You can assign as many messages as you like to the "Bank A" and "Bank B" trigger.
@espiegel123 - Whoops. Sorry, the above was inaccurate. I have it set to send 127 followed by 0 on press or long-press. Nothing is sent on release.
Too much Chocolate Bluetooth gave me a cavity.
Thank you for those detailed instructions. I now have my Chocolate set up like yours, and I'm experimenting with different bindings.
Just a loving heads up for the clickbait-iness that is AliExpress
That link is £13 for the mwave USB Bluetooth adapter ON THE SAME PAGE
Click the Chocolate button and it's £25
Just a note that ~£30 is (currently) standard for the low end price for these
(I took a gamble on a non-prime Amazon seller. $30 with estimated 3 week shipping. Got it 7 days after ordering and thing works like a champ. Probably grabbing another one!)
I've found Walmart.com to be a good source for this controller - assuming you're in the US.
I've not had 100% luck with Walmart for other things, but this came promptly and the prices have been competitive when I've looked back.
Temu.com ain't too bad as long as you're very careful about what you're actually buying. 😂
If it looks way too good to be true, there's probably something fishy going on.
Oh excellent! May give that a swing! I had only seen them this low through questionable sellers for the low price point, and figured Amazon would be safest to take a swing
Getting a thumbs up confirm for Walmart is encouraging. Curious about shipping time (compared to the unexpectedly quick week, over 3 I was told)
(I have done AliExpress before but 5/6 week turnaround that I've had, just too long sometimes. And I haven't touched temu or anything like that yet, just due to the nature of potential crap lol)
Ordered May 12, delivered May 17. $39.99. Still the same price today. The listing says "fulfilled by Walmart", which I take to be a better sign than a listing purely handled from a 3rd party.
I've done two Temu.com orders now and delivery has been under 10 days.
I recently got the chocolate for $20 including shipping on AliExpress but got stiffed by another vendor for the SMC Mixer. Even, that will be refunded but the vendor set it up so that it will likely take me a month before I get the refund.
Lol well I may have to eat my words.
Especially if by the 22nd another Chocolate shows up on my doorstep for the $18.10 I dropped an AliExpress
(Was scrolling for a minute and came across a reputable looking seller that WASNT trying to juke with the USB Bluetooth adapter pricing (wasn't even offered on this page. Just the chocolate)
Will wait patiently to see!
[ Edit: link to the one I ordered. Now showing $21 for me, but had some special on it (choice day maybe?) Bringing it down to 16.59 before tax
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3256804392732197.html ]
Weeeelllll, yup. I was very wrong.
The little monster arrived in the mail today. Chocolate number two for under $20 total. 8 days from order to doorstep. AliExpress was amazing with constant shipping updates via email
Definitely happy to eat crow here. I'm elated xD
Just wondering if anyone researched a wired option before deciding on this? I’d like to get a small, cheap board, but don’t really want to go with wireless.
Hey, friends… has anybody had issues using the chocolate pedal with something time-dependent, like a looper or a sequencer or drum app? I tried using mine to start the transport of AUM, and no matter how I set it up, it sends the command when I release the footswitch rather than when I hit it. For turning on effects and things, it’s not a problem, but starting a sequencer it can affect the timing…
You can use it wired.
Ah, don’t realize that. I have a Behringer FCB1010, but it’s not very portable. Would like something that’s more lightweight just to start/stop a looper.
Have you tried the Advanced Custom mode?
You should be able to set "Mode: Press down - release (Two sets of information)", then for Bank A set an ON and OFF message such as CC 20 127 then CC 20 0, and Bank B empty. That will send a rapid on/off when the switch is pressed, and nothing on release.
Use a midi monitor to see what is happening. You probably have it set up in a mode where the command gets sent on release. The quickest setup to have it send on on press and off on release is to choose the mode called "manufacturer control" it sets it up like a blueboard. CCs 20 - 23 with On on press and Off on release. No customizing of individual settings needed.
I think the issue is AUM transport is triggering on the OFF message (release) and what they want is for transport to trigger immediately on press. If so then custom settings are needed to send both ON and OFF on press rather than separately.
I never really thought about the delay factor. I think I've subconsciously just trained myself to press ahead of time and release when I want transport to actually start. Kind of like Loopy's option to start clip recording on touch vs. release.