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Zenbeats Version 3

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  • CRAKROXCRAKROX

    @Jeezs said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @Jeezs said:

    @Schmotown said:
    Trying to understand… why are app subscriptions so unpopular here? Streaming and cable video, utilities like electricity and water, Amazon Prime, Spotify, cloud storage, Office 365, and many others are subscription services. So why not apps?

    Simply because when you stop subscription you don’t have access to your own creation anymore !
    Cloud services need storage maintenance so a subscription is fair, when it’s a tool it’s a totally different story.

    The reality is that developers of iOS music apps with the current low pricing and "buy-once get updates forever" model isn't a healthy/sustainable ecosystem. Most developers are losong money if you consider their development time and expenses. Subscriptions or variants thereof might make it possible for them to make enough of a living for development to be their job.

    The thing is that for most of the music apps we use, we aren't paying the full cost of development.

    Subscription does not necessarily mean you lose your content if you unsubscribe. That depends on the model.

    Loopy pro economic model is the perfect balance no subscription but you buy new version each years if you like.
    Also IAP with new tools is a good alternative.
    Subscription is a systematic no go for me.

    I agree, the current “Loopy Pro” model seems fairest to both consumer and developer.

  • Michael_R_GrantMichael_R_Grant

    Yep, the Loopy Pro model is by far the best one to fund continued development while not annoying everyone.

  • MatthewAtZenbeatsMatthewAtZenbeats

    @Korakios said:
    New feature : probability :)

    Good catch! ;-)

    @Samu said:
    Wonder if it’s a paid update? There’s no way I’m going the cloud subscription route…

    This will be a paid update and will have one-time purchase options as well as Roland Cloud Subscription options. We understand everyone has different views and needs when it comes to owning versus using software, so we gladly offer both paths. If you just use Zenbeats occasionally and don't purchase a lot of in-app content, our one time purchasing options make sense. But if you're a person who wants access to all features on all platforms and also purchases in-app contents packs (one or more per month) you can save a lot of money by becoming a Roland Cloud core member. It's only $2.99 per month and gives you everything Zen has to offer including access to new packs which we drop almost weekly now.

    Looking forward to sharing more details with you guys later today!

  • SchmotownSchmotown

    @MatthewAtZenbeats Really looking forward to the new version.

  • RajahPRajahP

    @MatthewAtZenbeats said:

    @Korakios said:
    New feature : probability :)

    Good catch! ;-)

    @Samu said:
    Wonder if it’s a paid update? There’s no way I’m going the cloud subscription route…

    This will be a paid update and will have one-time purchase options as well as Roland Cloud Subscription options. We understand everyone has different views and needs when it comes to owning versus using software, so we gladly offer both paths. If you just use Zenbeats occasionally and don't purchase a lot of in-app content, our one time purchasing options make sense. But if you're a person who wants access to all features on all platforms and also purchases in-app contents packs (one or more per month) you can save a lot of money by becoming a Roland Cloud core member. It's only $2.99 per month and gives you everything Zen has to offer including access to new packs which we drop almost weekly now.

    Looking forward to sharing more details with you guys later today!

    Thanks.. looking forward... Today..

  • BirbHopeBirbHope
    edited May 2022

    @Schmotown said:
    Trying to understand… why are app subscriptions so unpopular here? Streaming and cable video, utilities like electricity and water, Amazon Prime, Spotify, cloud storage, Office 365, and many others are subscription services. So why not apps?

    Free people seem to instinctively reject the “you’ll own nothing and be happy” model. And people can feel it taking over every aspect of our lives. Your mission critical apps being able to vaporize the minute you fall onto hard or temporarily-hard times creates an almost adversarial landlord/tenant relationship.
    There are some arrangements - such as home and car rental that are as old as the hills and there isnt much we can do about it. But in most cases owning is seen as not only better, but smarter - if possible.
    The recent model that seems to strike an acceptable balance seems to be where you can buy-once but pay for upgrades (while keeping what you have if you opt out of an update).

  • SamuSamu

    @MatthewAtZenbeats said:

    @Samu said:
    Wonder if it’s a paid update? There’s no way I’m going the cloud subscription route…

    This will be a paid update and will have one-time purchase options as well as Roland Cloud Subscription options.

    No worries. I usually get the 'feature unlocks' and have less than zero interest in the additional 'content' which could be knocked up if synthesis engine is fully unlocked which it unfortunately isn't at the moment...

  • MAtrixplanMAtrixplan
    edited May 2022

    @MatthewAtZenbeats said:

    @Korakios said:
    New feature : probability :)

    Good catch! ;-)

    @Samu said:
    Wonder if it’s a paid update? There’s no way I’m going the cloud subscription route…

    This will be a paid update and will have one-time purchase options as well as Roland Cloud Subscription options. We understand everyone has different views and needs when it comes to owning versus using software, so we gladly offer both paths. If you just use Zenbeats occasionally and don't purchase a lot of in-app content, our one time purchasing options make sense. But if you're a person who wants access to all features on all platforms and also purchases in-app contents packs (one or more per month) you can save a lot of money by becoming a Roland Cloud core member. It's only $2.99 per month and gives you everything Zen has to offer including access to new packs which we drop almost weekly now.

    Looking forward to sharing more details with you guys later today!

    If it's paid update it looks like Zenbeats 3 :neutral:

  • audiblevideoaudiblevideo
    edited May 2022

    @Schmotown

    Most Subscription models, like renting, or rent-to-own, or even payday loans are EXTRACTIVE.

    Subscriptions like Debit on a consumer scale is ripe for abuse. Imagine going to use a hammer and it’s locked to your workbench, or better yet your tool chest, and you can even open the drawer to use the tool till you pay a fee. What if you can’t pay the fee now your already started project is now trapped…

    I’m not against paying for things like utilities. Electricity, for example, which needs to be generated and delivered a monthly bill based on consumption is fine - that’s kind of like a subscription service. Monthly magazines or cheese plates fine - gimmie a subscription. IAP fine, subscription no.

    An example of abuse was a parametric EQ (Goose) someone wanted a subscription to. When was the last time an EQ had added to it a fundamental operation functionality that needed 2-3$ a month from you?

    Blah blah blah I’ll stop now

  • l33tzkel33tzke
    edited May 2022

    @audiblevideo said:
    @Schmotown

    Most Subscription models, like renting, or rent-to-own, or even payday loans are EXTRACTIVE.

    Subscriptions like Debit on a consumer scale is ripe for abuse. Imagine going to use a hammer and it’s locked to your workbench, or better yet your tool chest, and you can even open the drawer to use the tool till you pay a fee. What if you can’t pay the fee now your already started project is now trapped…

    I’m not against paying for things like utilities. Electricity, for example, which needs to be generated and delivered a monthly bill based on consumption is fine - that’s kind of like a subscription service. Monthly magazines or cheese plates fine - gimmie a subscription. IAP fine, subscription no.

    An example of abuse was a parametric EQ (Goose) someone wanted a subscription to. When was the last time an EQ had added to it a fundamental operation functionality that needed 2-3$ a month from you?

    Blah blah blah I’ll stop now

    That makes sense if, and only if, we take the software as-is in the moment of purchase and expect nothing more out of it.
    All its functionalities, as well as its bugs, will stay as they are.

    Your hammer had a cost of manufacturing, that cost is ideally paid in full when you purchase it and your interaction with the hammer seller stopped there.

    For a software with continuous support, and I'm not talking about an EQ, or a to-do list, but a complex software which requires ongoing adjustment, maintenance and updates, that cost of subscription is usually a bundle composed not only by the initial purchase price, but also for the support costs for improvements and bugfixes.

    If you don't pay for support, the support cost must be covered by the new purchases of the software, and for any single piece of software there is a ceiling on your earnings (and therefore on your ability to provide support) based on how many copies it will sell, for niche apps such as music production apps that limit is quite low.

    I fully agree that some devs will try to abuse it, but for some cases it may make sense especially when the subscription is an option additional to the outright purchase.

    If Nanostudio2 had a subscription option, perhaps nowadays we would have the audio tracks. :)

  • LiquidmantisLiquidmantis

    I get that people have strong feelings about subscriptions, but it gets tiresome that every thread about an app that has one leads to the same rehashed arguments and boilerplate replies of "Subscription? PASS!".

  • ShabuduaShabudua

    @Liquidmantis said:
    I get that people have strong feelings about subscriptions, but it gets tiresome that every thread about an app that has one leads to the same rehashed arguments and boilerplate replies of "Subscription? PASS!".

    Thank you for saying what i was thinking.

  • david_2017david_2017

    Hmmm still not showing up?
    This may not be released today…

  • madrid89madrid89

    It’s 10 pm here, still no auv3 ZC synth? 😈

  • HotStrangeHotStrange

    @Liquidmantis said:
    I get that people have strong feelings about subscriptions, but it gets tiresome that every thread about an app that has one leads to the same rehashed arguments and boilerplate replies of "Subscription? PASS!".

    Agreed. I have a few subscription apps (Launchpad, SDS-X, and the Taqsim stuff) and I love/use them all very often. I don’t want every app to be that way, no doubt, but for certain ones it’s not an immediate pass.

  • JeezsJeezs

    @madrid89 said:
    It’s 10 pm here, still no auv3 ZC synth? 😈

    I fear it won’t be on time.
    Maybe tomorrow. Impatient to test it anyway

  • el_boel_bo

    Yeah…11 pm, here.

    Rain stopped play…

  • l33tzkel33tzke
    edited May 2022

    Based on the time of the announcement tweet, I’m assuming it comes around midnight or 1am here (CEST timezone).
    Which is still before I usually sleep, so I’ll just pretend it’s still 17.05.2022 and see what comes 😅

  • mojozartmojozart

    Looking forward to it.

  • wimwim

    @CapnWillie said:
    Where’s the beef?

    My guess is in the grubby hands of an App Store reviewer. :D

  • KorakiosKorakios
    edited May 2022

    An hour ago , the dev confirmed it's coming out today (on fb group) , still waiting

  • jwmmakerofmusicjwmmakerofmusic
    edited May 2022

    I used to be opposed to subscriptions, but not so much anymore. See, subscription apps that offer an ever expanding library of sounds are worth it. $2.99/month to access the entire library of sounds in Zenbeats is a drop in the bucket.

    I pay $4.99/month for Auxy, and I'd pay at least $9.99/month for NS2 to support BlipInteractive. I also pay $9.99/month to Dharma Worldwide for their tutorials and deals on sample packs. Subscriptions take prohibitively expensive software and sound libraries and make them accessible to many.

    Now, if a single plugin required an endless subscription to use, it had better be a damn good plugin like Nexus or Ozone or better yet a suite of plugins. 😂 But if Apple ever released Logic for iPad, I'd definitely pay monthly for that at least to try it out to see how I'd get on with it. Auxy and I clicked right away when I subscribed to it when it first went subscription in 2018.

    (Of course I'd be pissed if Gadget went subscription as I sunk a lot of money into the Korg ecosystem over the years as it is. 😂)

  • wimwim

    @CapnWillie said:

    @wim said:

    @CapnWillie said:
    Where’s the beef?

    My guess is in the grubby hands of an App Store reviewer. :D

    I think I remember you being around early on in the early live chat Stagelight calls with the dev team. Have you stuck around the whole time?

    I wasn't in those chats, but yeh, I've been a fan from the beginning.

    I’ve been realizing how much work they’ve done in the time I’ve been back in Maschine/Logic on desktop. Loopy Pro and Drambo brought me back to iOS but somehow found myself lost in Zenbeats for the past 48 hours. I must say the fun factor is possibly the highest with Zenbeats.

    I can’t figure out a reason to use LP, Zen and Drambo together as LP and Zen seem redundant.

    I really can't think of a reason to use LP and Zen together. I can see Drambo with both Zenbeats and Loopy Pro though. I'm still reveling in the liberation of LP's encouragement to commit to audio and move on, so Zenbeats isn't getting as much use.

    Zenbeats is great for a) practicing guitar and jamming, and b) turning jams into arrangements. I just haven't been doing as much of that as just noodling around with Loopy. I'm sure I'll get back to it though. Zenbeats is probably the closest I'll ever get to going back to a full DAW though. Cubasis is great super capable, but not particularly creatively inspiring for me.

    Any ideas on how I could make this 3some enjoyable for all without one app feeling left out of the fun?lol

    Nope. :D

  • KorakiosKorakios

    sampling to pad , slicing and more stuff :)

  • MatthewAtZenbeatsMatthewAtZenbeats
    edited May 2022

    Hey Everyone!

    Just came here to share but I see you all beat me to it! Enjoy!

    In addition to the some of the bigger features, we've added over 60+ improvements throughout the app. A lot of which came out of direct feedback from this community. I know we haven't done everything requested here (with this release;-), but we're still at it and have plenty of work to do! I hope you all like what we dropped today, but do not hesitate to hit me up with feedback, requests, etc. We are listening.

    Thanks for the support!

    Matthew Presley.

    For those who like to read change logs:

    TLDR VERSION
    Zenbeats 3.0 is here!

    Introducing ZR1 Drum Sampler

    Sample and import right into Drum Pads
    Slice Editing
    Mixer Integration
    and more

    Sound Browser and Discovery Enhancements

    Album Art
    Favorites feature

    Group Tracks with nested folders

    New dynamic UI along with dozens of additional enhancements

    See Roland - Zenbeats | Music Creation App for more info

    FULL VERSION

  • mjm1138mjm1138

    @MatthewAtZenbeats holy cow that’s quite a changelog! Can’t wait to dive in and look around, and the upgrade price is quite reasonable I think.

  • ExAsperis99ExAsperis99

    link?

  • AudioGusAudioGus

    https://apps.apple.com/ca/app/roland-zenbeats/id1473380367

  • KorakiosKorakios

    @MatthewAtZenbeats are there any tutorials for the new features ?

    congratulations for the update :)
    Love the new polished GUI , it will take me some time to adjust but totally worth it

  • piccolopiccolo
    edited May 2022

    version 3 is crashing on M1 mac book pro!
    I would like to go back to version 2 for the time being.
    Download page is version 3 only!
    Where can I get version 2 for Mac please?

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