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New app development from midiSequencer dev - midi file editor/recorder

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  • How do you change on the fly with Genome? Midi controllable?

  • Genome has terrible midi in support. I've tried to make convincing arguments why it's important, but no love there I'm afraid. With all due respect to the dev, he complains a lot that he has little time to invest in development. Why bother then? I'm even a beta testor for Genome 2, and the development progress is like watching a glacier move. Sorry to be so brutally honest. :-/

  • just tap the patterns. And yeah, if you hit the keyboard icon, you can assign any pattern to a midi controller. You could setup a grid like the Ableton Live controllers. Might even respond to MIDI note data, not sure.

  • For example, I tried to ask for foot pedal support (map a CC or note to a foot pedal, so that record or overdub could be engaged with the foot pedal.) Guitarists rely on control like this, but alas - "no plans to support it".

  • Genome was initially a good idea, and had tons of potential, but... (all the things I mentioned above.)

  • @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    For someone at the other end of the technical understanding/ability scale, I still find MIDI confusing

    The good thing about MIDI is that it's really not difficult to grok, once you appreciate that it's merely a computer language. The MIDI spec can go a long ways, but you don't have to get nearly that deep into it, as most MIDI synths & like devices do the grunt work - you just need to learn a few simple rules that apply to it & you're off!

    Once you get around the interfaces... ;-)

  • app now updated - almost finished note editing...

  • Looking good!

  • edited July 2014

    @midiSequencer said:

    @syrupcode - midi transforms you could apply to your midi file in the editor would be good idea too - lots of things here that could work on a selection of notes or the whole sequence or a single track &/or channel say:
    note stretch to lengthen/shorten(e.g. turn those 1/4 notes into 1/16ths),
    transpose (chromatic or key shift) - like in midiSequencer
    patterns you can cut and paste (QX5 has this),
    velocity adjusts - can be done by redrawing or shifting(the velocity graph will be displayed under the note grid).
    filter & compress & redraw midi CC's

    so yes, the key to this is an ability to fine select with some common dialog.

    It would be nice to have an app where you could program midi to respond to audio changes in the signal and then do some set of midi programs. Thesys has some interesting functionality in terms of gating, looping, and triggering. This could be sort of a midi effects app. Maybe some sort of screen where you can do some check boxes, dials, or sliders to create a preset. This would be something more accessible to non-programmers versus something like Lemur or PD.

  • midi delay line is also interesting. the old MX8 from the 80's had that. Of the three routers of the time, and I had one of each, the MX8 was my favorite.

  • Which suggest that, rather than start to bloat out midiRecorder with non-recorder functions, perhaps there's room for a (tightly coupled yet generic) midiEffects?

  • @dwarman said:

    Which suggest that, rather than start to bloat out midiRecorder with non-recorder functions, perhaps there's room for a (tightly coupled yet generic) midiEffects?

    That's an interesting take. Two apps with super fluid 'open in' or whatever iOS 8 intents enables. One app a streamlined recorder/player and one app dig deep editor.

  • @dwarman said:

    midi delay line is also interesting. the old MX8 from the 80's had that. Of the three routers of the time, and I had one of each, the MX8 was my favorite.

    Most newer Dave Smith instruments use a midi delay internally for all delays.

  • Ok folks, first video available... :) Please see the youtube description for the video - there isn't any sound!
    This is a demonstration of editing so far on the 2 weeks I've spent on this app so far.

    tony

  • Looking good! Still planning to give this sequencer functionality, Tony? With sections, parts, etc.?

  • Selection stuff is looking really good.

  • @Moonwolf - it's a midi file so by it's nature it has up to 98 tracks (99 being the tempo track) - so it's more of a sequencer in the DAW sense than midiSequencer is (which loops and will have a sing mode). It will have playback and record too - so this is a tool for saving performances, allowing you some cool editing on existing midi files and those you record yourself. As sort of Audiocopy with editor but on midi rather than audio.
    At the moment it is just an editor & file read/saver.

  • It would be nice to have a sequencer that can do triplets, if midi pattern seq can, I haven't figured it out. Also different time signatures would be great.

  • If you choose cell edit and click on a cell, you can adjust the gate time. I think reducing the gate to four dots, of the six, will give you a triplet. At least it showed up in Gadget as a triplet.

  • @funjunkie27 said:

    If you choose cell edit and click on a cell, you can adjust the gate time. I think reducing the gate to four dots, of the six, will give you a triplet. At least it showed up in Gadget as a triplet.

    Thanks, I'm gonna try that.

  • @Ripper - midiSequencer can also do triplets using noteTime rather than stepTime, you can specify the length of each note as a % according to the tempo interval - thereby any step length can be achieved within reason - so a triplet is 67% say.

  • edited July 2014

    @dwarman - midi effects (such as echo, limiter, remapping, etc) will be something I will add to midiSequencer soon. I've started this process by adding a new ornament (2 note tremolo) but want to do something to all output on a device channel (so endpoint + midi channel) that will alter all output midi.
    Midi echo is a particularly interesting affect to me as it works well with electronic music with its syncopated effects.
    Not sure it has a place in this new app, which focuses on recording real-time performances rather than sequence playback, but it's easy to add once I've coded it for midiSequencer!

  • Supporting multiple time signatures within the song would be beneficial to me. http://home.roadrunner.com/~jgglatt/tech/midifile/time.htm

    For the different tracks within the midi file, I would like to see them be able to output on different midi channels so you could play tracks in different synths at once. Also would like to see the ability to mute tracks.

  • edited July 2014

    This is looking great!! Might be nice to have some color coding for each track/ midi channel so it's easy to see what's going on when displaying the whole file at once.
    I think you said earlier on that we will be able to filter out and see/edit any given track by itself. Yes please again on multiple time sigs and tempo changes which you said is happening.

    Keep it up, can't wait!!

  • edited July 2014

    @Coloobar - multiple time signatures is possible, but presents a problem with representing the bar lines, but it can be done - anyone seen a piano roll editor that does this?
    Coremidi endpoints + midi channels will be available on both record & playback for tracks and also be settable on individual notes if required.
    @yowza - I had previously colour coded different midi tracks. There will be a filter option to select only certain tracks to edit - the tempo track will be a special track (as it has no notes but meta events).
    I will handle meta event's in a special way as notes (vertical) will represent the type of event and horizontal the timestamp (stored as ppqn at the midi file resultion).
    Controllers messages too will get special treatment as this determines the need for high PPQN if you are recording realtime performances! So there will be the ability to re-draw the continous controller values or select to enter precise values.

  • edited July 2014

    Was thinking about this app again while playing with bs-16i and some SoundFonts. Xynthesizr is nice simple MIDI controller, but a full-featured MIDI sequencer like this one would be especially great for controlling drum beats.

    @midiSequencer - No rush, but any idea when submission to Apple might be?

  • @StormJH1 - working on it! Have the note editor & midi recorder/playback (notes & cc) mostly done.
    I'm happy with the performance so far at 480ppqn (min would be 96ppqn to record 1/64T notes) - this is on an ipad 2.
    Now working on managing midi tracks before introducing CC & meta event editing via drawing and event edit (for precise control).
    Next comes the reskinning for retina, testing, then release, so it's still a few weeks off I'm afraid.

  • @midiSequencer said:

    @StormJH1 - working on it! Have the note editor & midi recorder/playback (notes & cc) mostly done.
    I'm happy with the performance so far at 480ppqn (min would be 96ppqn to record 1/64T notes) - this is on an ipad 2.
    Now working on managing midi tracks before introducing CC & meta event editing via drawing and event edit (for precise control).
    Next comes the reskinning for retina, testing, then release, so it's still a few weeks off I'm afraid.

    That's great, thanks for the update! Glad to hear performance is on older iPad as well. This should be well worth the wait.

  • @stormjh1 Beatmaker or Genome should tide you over

  • edited July 2014

    @syrupcore - intend to put song mode & patterns on midiSequencer too when I get back to it!
    This new app is different in that it focuses on phrase capture recording (multiple takes) in AB that can be saved to midi files.

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