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LFOH! by K-Devices

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  • wimwim
    edited June 2022

    @skiphunt said:

    @wim said:

    @onerez said:

    @Gratouilli said:

    @BirbHope said:
    Are you sure you’re using DRC? I must be losing it.
    …….

    😉

    You must have mapped the cutoff sometime before…. And DRC is remembering it. If you were to uninstall and try again you would have to midi learn it like Samu said…. No big deal. Its a fun LFO…

    The dashed lines around LFOH! indicate a feedback loop. This could be harmless but might be causing issues. It would be safer to put LFOH! on a separate channel unless you're also using it to modulate the audio passing through it.

    Are there any scenarios where you might use a feedback loop like this in LFOH! intentionally?

    We're talking about two possible kinds of feedback here: Audio and MIDI.

    With Audio feedback, you'd start by routing an audio signal into the plugin and engaging the audio modifier slider to modulate the audio. You could then route that back into the plugin. You can do that with any FX in AUM. Results can range from musical, to interesting, to weird, and to dangerous hearing-destroying feedback if you're not careful. Jakob Haq has a good video on this technique.

    MIDI feedback isn't exactly accurate in this case but it's the same idea. You can route the midi coming out of LFOH! to any of its AU parameters, causing LFOH! to modulate its own LFO to give even more varied modulations.

    Jakob's video:

  • skiphuntskiphunt
    edited June 2022

    @wim said:

    @skiphunt said:

    @wim said:

    @onerez said:

    @Gratouilli said:

    @BirbHope said:
    Are you sure you’re using DRC? I must be losing it.
    …….

    😉

    You must have mapped the cutoff sometime before…. And DRC is remembering it. If you were to uninstall and try again you would have to midi learn it like Samu said…. No big deal. Its a fun LFO…

    The dashed lines around LFOH! indicate a feedback loop. This could be harmless but might be causing issues. It would be safer to put LFOH! on a separate channel unless you're also using it to modulate the audio passing through it.

    Are there any scenarios where you might use a feedback loop like this in LFOH! intentionally?

    We're talking about two possible kinds of feedback here: Audio and MIDI.

    With Audio feedback, you'd start by routing an audio signal into the plugin and engaging the audio modifier slider to modulate the audio. You could then route that back into the plugin. You can do that with any FX in AUM. Results can range from musical, to interesting, to weird, and to dangerous hearing-destroying feedback if you're not careful. Jakob Haq has a good video on this technique.

    MIDI feedback isn't exactly accurate in this case but it's the same idea. You can route the midi coming out of LFOH! to any of its AU parameters, causing LFOH! to modulate its own LFO to give even more varied modulations.

    cool. I was playing with LFOH! the other night after I bought it... figuring out the audio slider AND midi stuff, experimenting and getting that dotted line often. Will check out the video. thx!

  • PoppadocrockPoppadocrock

    I like this app a lot. The dual audio and midi functionality really gives it a little more bang for the buck.

  • sambosambo

    Thanks K-Devices for this wonderful plugin! Lots of depth and interesting usage here particularly when partnered with Drambo.

    Couple of requests:

    1. A reset button (cv control & midimapable) would be a really useful addition, allowing us to sync the wave cycle across a number of running LFOH's.

    2. It would be nice if when loading a preset, it didn’t overwrite the current midi channel / cc / audio mod settings.

    3. The patch storage/recovery system seems non-functional at present (latest iOS, various hosts)

  • PoppadocrockPoppadocrock
    edited June 2022

    @sambo said:
    Thanks K-Devices for this wonderful plugin! Lots of depth and interesting usage here particularly when partnered with Drambo.

    Couple of requests:

    1. A reset button (cv control & midimapable) would be a really useful addition, allowing us to sync the wave cycle across a number of running LFOH's.

    2. It would be nice if when loading a preset, it didn’t overwrite the current midi channel / cc / audio mod settings.

    3. The patch storage/recovery system seems non-functional at present (latest iOS, various hosts)

    3 - is it not state saving when you reload a project. I’ve used it a few times but haven’t reopened any of those projects yet. If not that’s something that definitely needs to be fixed.

  • GavinskiGavinski

    @Poppadocrock said:

    @sambo said:
    Thanks K-Devices for this wonderful plugin! Lots of depth and interesting usage here particularly when partnered with Drambo.

    Couple of requests:

    1. A reset button (cv control & midimapable) would be a really useful addition, allowing us to sync the wave cycle across a number of running LFOH's.

    2. It would be nice if when loading a preset, it didn’t overwrite the current midi channel / cc / audio mod settings.

    3. The patch storage/recovery system seems non-functional at present (latest iOS, various hosts)

    3 - is it not state saving when you reload a project. I’ve used it a few times but haven’t reopened any of those projects yet. If not that’s something that definitely needs to be fixed.

    Ah damn, i hadn't noticed that as I've been experimenting with fresh sessions every time - that completely sucks balls if true, will let Alessio know

  • snickastsnickast

    Is this app similar to FAC Envolver? By reading the info they seem kind of similar. If I already have Envolver do I need LFOH?

  • wimwim
    edited February 2024

    @snickast said:
    Is this app similar to FAC Envolver? By reading the info they seem kind of similar. If I already have Envolver do I need LFOH?

    They're very different from one another.

    Envolver doesn't alter audio passing through it. It uses the transients of audio passing through it to trigger envelopes that send out midi. It doesn't alter the audio passing through it at all.

    LFOH can alter the amplitude of audio passing through it according to its running LFO. It sends out midi from the running LFO. The LFO isn't triggered by or altered by audio passing through it.

    LFOH has some really nice interactive controls, making it very playable as a modulation or glitch machine.

  • HotStrangeHotStrange

    @wim said:

    @snickast said:
    Is this app similar to FAC Envolver? By reading the info they seem kind of similar. If I already have Envolver do I need LFOH?

    They're very different from one another.

    Envolver doesn't alter audio passing through it. It uses the transients of audio passing through it to trigger envelopes that send out midi. It doesn't alter the audio passing through it at all.

    LFOH can alter the amplitude of audio passing through it according to its running LFO. It sends out midi from the running LFO. The LFO isn't triggered by or altered by audio passing through it.

    LFOH has some really nice interactive controls, making it very playable as a modulation or glitch machine.

    Also LFOH does something I wish all LFO apps did - allows scrolling through all midi CCs quickly and easily which can be very helpful. I wish mLFO did this.

  • ronniebronnieb

    @wim said:

    @snickast said:
    Is this app similar to FAC Envolver? By reading the info they seem kind of similar. If I already have Envolver do I need LFOH?

    They're very different from one another.

    Envolver doesn't alter audio passing through it. It uses the transients of audio passing through it to trigger envelopes that send out midi. It doesn't alter the audio passing through it at all.

    LFOH can alter the amplitude of audio passing through it according to its running LFO. It sends out midi from the running LFO. The LFO isn't triggered by or altered by audio passing through it.

    LFOH has some really nice interactive controls, making it very playable as a modulation or glitch machine.

    Envolver definitely does alter the audio passing through it. The dry/wet knob would be pretty useless otherwise haha

  • MonkeyDrummerMonkeyDrummer

    Has anyone figured out how to make cc modulation bipolar?

  • wimwim
    edited February 2024

    @ronnieb said:

    @wim said:

    @snickast said:
    Is this app similar to FAC Envolver? By reading the info they seem kind of similar. If I already have Envolver do I need LFOH?

    They're very different from one another.

    Envolver doesn't alter audio passing through it. It uses the transients of audio passing through it to trigger envelopes that send out midi. It doesn't alter the audio passing through it at all.

    LFOH can alter the amplitude of audio passing through it according to its running LFO. It sends out midi from the running LFO. The LFO isn't triggered by or altered by audio passing through it.

    LFOH has some really nice interactive controls, making it very playable as a modulation or glitch machine.

    Envolver definitely does alter the audio passing through it. The dry/wet knob would be pretty useless otherwise haha

    You're right! I missed that - never used it that way. Thanks for the correction.

  • snickastsnickast

    @wim said:

    @snickast said:
    Is this app similar to FAC Envolver? By reading the info they seem kind of similar. If I already have Envolver do I need LFOH?

    They're very different from one another.

    Envolver doesn't alter audio passing through it. It uses the transients of audio passing through it to trigger envelopes that send out midi. It doesn't alter the audio passing through it at all.

    LFOH can alter the amplitude of audio passing through it according to its running LFO. It sends out midi from the running LFO. The LFO isn't triggered by or altered by audio passing through it.

    LFOH has some really nice interactive controls, making it very playable as a modulation or glitch machine.

    Thanks for the info! Added to the want list!

  • pejmanpejman
    edited December 2024

    @wim
    Some questions about LFOH .
    1, Does lfoh support pitchbend? I mean controlling pitchbend via lfoh .
    2, And if so, with the same high sensitivity pitchben , 3836.. value ?
    3, What parameters can be controlled via midi map?
    4, Is it possible to reset the lfo via trigger? via midi map?

    I would be grateful if you could answer.

  • wimwim

    @pejman said:
    @wim
    Some questions about LFOH .
    1, Does lfoh support pitchbend? I mean controlling pitchbend via lfoh .

    No, only CC's.

    2, And if so, with the same high sensitivity pitchben , 3836.. value ?

    Only 0-127 values.

    3, What parameters can be controlled via midi map?

    • Phase
    • Swing
    • Bend
    • Squeeze
    • Transform Mode
    • Transform Amount
    • SAH (Sample & Hold?)
    • Smooth
    • Wave
    • Play
    • Time Mode
    • Frequency
    • Time Numerator
    • Time Denominator
    • Time Kind
    • SH Numerator
    • SAH Denominator
    • MIDI Max
    • MIDI Min
    • MIDI Ch
    • MIDI CC
    • Audio Input Mod

    4, Is it possible to reset the lfo via trigger? via midi map?

    I don't think so. In fact, I don't see anything to reset the LFO at all. I could be missing something though.

  • wimwim

    btw, PitchBend has 16,384 values.

  • pejmanpejman

    Very thanks for info and write long list of midi mapping 🙏🙏❤️

  • wimwim

    @pejman said:
    Very thanks for info and write long list of midi mapping 🙏🙏❤️

    I type very fast. 😎

  • wimwim
    edited December 2024

    Do you have miRack? You can send its various interesting LFO modules as PitchBend (labeled PW on the midi output module). Most can be reset via midi as well.

  • pejmanpejman

    @wim

    @wim said:
    Do you have miRack? You can send its various interesting LFO modules as PitchBend (labeled PW on the midi output module). Most can be reset via midi as well.

    Yes , that’s great. I didn't remember the mirack at all.🤩🤩
    I have to try it.

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