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What midi app will allow me to send PC (Program Change) messages to scroll through AUM presets?

GavinskiGavinski
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What midi app will allow me to send PC (Program Change) messages to scroll through AUM presets saved in the 'preset load' section of AUM?

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  • no1normalno1normal

    I’ve been using this mosaic script, but I have seen a pc change module on the latest Drambo update notes also.

    https://patchstorage.com/microfreak-presetter/

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    I think Xequence 2 can do that.

  • rs2000rs2000

  • sigma79sigma79

    App?

    There are those known as the Mozaics ( dont worry ) A program were written, so that only Mozaic seekers can view the potential answer.

    These Appa-Jedi. Have trained for decades. Often just staring at devices and bending them to their will.

    Its been known for some, to absorb into their ipads ( an iphone se 2016 even ) and maybe even an apple watch.

    With the typical Matrix sound. A digital conception of ' ahaaa.

  • rs2000rs2000
    edited June 2022

    Oh and btw, if you prefer up/down buttons:

  • GavinskiGavinski

    Thanks guys!

    @no1normal said:
    I’ve been using this mosaic script, but I have seen a pc change module on the latest Drambo update notes also.

    https://patchstorage.com/microfreak-presetter/

    I did actually download this but couldn't figure out how to get it working. Could u explain? Otherwise I'll try the drambo / xequence route though - to my shame, I'm not super familiar with either.

  • rs2000rs2000

    @Gavinski said:
    Thanks guys!

    @no1normal said:
    I’ve been using this mosaic script, but I have seen a pc change module on the latest Drambo update notes also.

    https://patchstorage.com/microfreak-presetter/

    I did actually download this but couldn't figure out how to get it working. Could u explain? Otherwise I'll try the drambo / xequence route though - to my shame, I'm not super familiar with either.

    You should. I mean, you're doing reviews, right? 😉

  • GavinskiGavinski

    Don't have time / inclination to learn everything AND make decent vids on them 😉

  • espiegel123espiegel123
    edited June 2022

    Streambyter can also do this. The Drambo patch rs2000 showed up thread will take about a minute to put together. It’s slider becomes a PC slider.

    Also, i’d say either Mozaic or Streambyter is a pretty essential tool and worth learning for serious midi.

  • GavinskiGavinski

    @espiegel123 said:
    Streambyter can also do this. The Drambo patch rs2000 showed up thread will take about a minute to put together. It’s sludge becomes a PC slider.

    Also, i’d say either Mozaic or Streambyter is a pretty essential tool and worth learning for serious midi.

    I ended up making this effort but can’t get it working - I’m telling you, I know zilch about Drambo pretty much and don’t have the time to get into it at the moment - could u maybe tell me what is wrong here?



  • GavinskiGavinski

    Streambyter looks wildly complex for me. I would use Xequence maybe but I am looking for an AUv3 solution. As mentioned, couldn’t figure out that mozaic script either lol

  • AlmostAnonymousAlmostAnonymous

    @Gavinski one of @wim’s scripts is on patch storage which has most of the legwork done.
    https://patchstorage.com/basic-midi-controls/

  • McDMcD
    edited June 2022

    For anyone brave enough to try "cut and paste" (or do some typing).

    Hit NEW in Mozaic and insert the Program Change statement (BankSelect is optional for some apps with a lot of presets):

    @OnLoad
    SendMIDIBankSelect 0, 1
    SendMIDIProgramChange 0, 24 // select patch 24 in bank 1
    @End

    Then hit "Upload". For the more eager student use variables and change them using Knobs. After a turn to the knob send the new values.

    This code came directly from the excellent Mozaic manual. Mozaic is a lot like Excel... some use it to get their work done and some create complex solution solvers with it. Everyone should have it and benefit from the free solutions that apps might not provide.

  • GavinskiGavinski

    I did actually get that mozaic script working but a) it is time consuming to set up b) it seems a bit quirky. Eg i set pad 3 to send PC 3 but it is actually sending PC2

  • AlmostAnonymousAlmostAnonymous
    edited June 2022

    @Gavinski said:
    I did actually get that mozaic script working but a) it is time consuming to set up b) it seems a bit quirky. Eg i set pad 3 to send PC 3 but it is actually sending PC2

    Numbering in Mozaic starts at 0 (for the most part). Pads are labeled 0-15, as are midi channels. I haven’t looked at it myself, so it could still be off by one? @wim could answer that, but a lot of Mozaic scripts are written like that, where you configure pads with knobs and such.

  • GavinskiGavinski

    @AlmostAnonymous said:

    @Gavinski said:
    I did actually get that mozaic script working but a) it is time consuming to set up b) it seems a bit quirky. Eg i set pad 3 to send PC 3 but it is actually sending PC2

    Numbering in Mozaic starts at 0 (for the most part). Pads are labeled 0-15, as are midi channels. I haven’t looked at it myself, so it could still be off by one? @wim could answer that, but a lot of Mozaic scripts are written like that, where you configure pads with knobs and such.

    Right, Wim’s seems also off by one. But is the most convenient mozaic solution so far. What would I have to do to send out PC messages above 15? Some coding? This is really something I am intimidated by

  • GavinskiGavinski

    Ah I see, I would long press shift, alter the PC numbers for the pads, and maybe have to use 2 instances? Thanks Wim, useful stuff!

  • AlmostAnonymousAlmostAnonymous

    If you’re in the pad mode…..just hold the shift button down for a second…the pas will change color.
    You use the knobs then to set the modes of the pad. Or change the pc number in your case.
    Press shift again to revert. No coding needed.

  • GavinskiGavinski

    Is there no one knob solution that I can just turn and move to the next PC message?

  • AlmostAnonymousAlmostAnonymous
    edited June 2022

    If you wanna code a tiny bit….you can set the defaults here….but the knobs are good because they will state save in sessions. You always start with a default template in a new AUM session.

  • uncledaveuncledave

    @Gavinski said:

    @espiegel123 said:
    Streambyter can also do this. The Drambo patch rs2000 showed up thread will take about a minute to put together. It’s sludge becomes a PC slider.

    Also, i’d say either Mozaic or Streambyter is a pretty essential tool and worth learning for serious midi.

    I ended up making this effort but can’t get it working - I’m telling you, I know zilch about Drambo pretty much and don’t have the time to get into it at the moment - could u maybe tell me what is wrong here?



    1. You need to put the MIDI output after the PC generator, and connect its input to the PC generator. (Actually, not sure if MIDI output is needed at all.)
    2. The Reset button should go to Reset on both counters.
    3. The counter clocks should come from the Up and Down buttons
    4. Both counters should be set to 1 step/beat.
    5. Subtract should make the difference of the two counters (Up and Down), and be the input to the PC generator.
    6. Remember, signal flow in Drambo is left to right, and connections are indicated by the colors. Sometimes Drambo makes automatic connections that are not what you want, and you need to change them.
  • AlmostAnonymousAlmostAnonymous

    @Gavinski said:
    Is there no one knob solution that I can just turn and move to the next PC message?

    You could map a hardware knob to send pc messages on a controller and just turn it.

  • GavinskiGavinski

    I know - but like the idea of being able to do the same on the ipad screen

    @AlmostAnonymous said:

    @Gavinski said:
    Is there no one knob solution that I can just turn and move to the next PC message?

    You could map a hardware knob to send pc messages on a controller and just turn it.

  • GavinskiGavinski

    @uncledave said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @espiegel123 said:
    Streambyter can also do this. The Drambo patch rs2000 showed up thread will take about a minute to put together. It’s sludge becomes a PC slider.

    Also, i’d say either Mozaic or Streambyter is a pretty essential tool and worth learning for serious midi.

    I ended up making this effort but can’t get it working - I’m telling you, I know zilch about Drambo pretty much and don’t have the time to get into it at the moment - could u maybe tell me what is wrong here?



    1. You need to put the MIDI output after the PC generator, and connect its input to the PC generator. (Actually, not sure if MIDI output is needed at all.)
    2. The Reset button should go to Reset on both counters.
    3. The counter clocks should come from the Up and Down buttons
    4. Both counters should be set to 1 step/beat.
    5. Subtract should make the difference of the two counters (Up and Down), and be the input to the PC generator.
    6. Remember, signal flow in Drambo is left to right, and connections are indicated by the colors. Sometimes Drambo makes automatic connections that are not what you want, and you need to change them.

    Thnx Dave - will look at this tmrw, very late here, cheers!

  • uncledaveuncledave

    @Gavinski Here it is working. I routed the output to StreamByter's MIDI monitor, so we can see the messages actually exiting Drambo. You don't need the MIDI out module. But you do need to set the output to MIDI out in the Track menu as shown in the second pic. And be sure to set each button to Momentary (swipe up on the button to configure it).

  • AlmostAnonymousAlmostAnonymous
    edited June 2022

    Just a single knob sending program changes:

    @OnLoad 
LabelKnob 0, {PgmCh} 
@End
@OnKnobChange 
// only respond to knob 0
if LastKnob = 0
pc = GetKnobValue 0 // get the value from knob 0
SendMIDIProgramChange 0, pc // midi channel, knob value
endif 
@End

    It’s a bit fidly cause you’re doing 128 in small (physical) range on your screen.

  • GavinskiGavinski

    @Gavinski said:

    @uncledave said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @espiegel123 said:
    Streambyter can also do this. The Drambo patch rs2000 showed up thread will take about a minute to put together. It’s sludge becomes a PC slider.

    Also, i’d say either Mozaic or Streambyter is a pretty essential tool and worth learning for serious midi.

    I ended up making this effort but can’t get it working - I’m telling you, I know zilch about Drambo pretty much and don’t have the time to get into it at the moment - could u maybe tell me what is wrong here?



    1. You need to put the MIDI output after the PC generator, and connect its input to the PC generator. (Actually, not sure if MIDI output is needed at all.)
    2. The Reset button should go to Reset on both counters.
    3. The counter clocks should come from the Up and Down buttons
    4. Both counters should be set to 1 step/beat.
    5. Subtract should make the difference of the two counters (Up and Down), and be the input to the PC generator.
    6. Remember, signal flow in Drambo is left to right, and connections are indicated by the colors. Sometimes Drambo makes automatic connections that are not what you want, and you need to change them.

    Thnx Dave - will look at this tmrw, very late here, cheers! Gave it a try and got it working - seems like the best solution so far, thanks a lot! Pity these need to be set up specifically in the preset load section of AUM - would be wonderful to just be easily able to scroll through the AUM presets - perhaps with left and right arrows even

  • AlmostAnonymousAlmostAnonymous
    edited June 2022

    Goddammit…why does my code format never work right. Prolly PEBKAC…

    Edit: …fixed

  • GavinskiGavinski

    Ah no - unfortunately using Drambo for this in AUM is kicking my DSP up from 40 to over 100

  • GavinskiGavinski

    Glitch city

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