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iMPC Pro Sample, Name and Saving Glitches
iMPC Pro Sample, Name and Saving Glitches
We are the defacto beta testers for this app.
Recording Samples
When recording samples via a USB interface, I get no sound during the recording. This means two sets of headphones, one connected to the USB interface, and the other to my iPad. I haven't had this monitoring problem with any other app.
Renaming Samples
The app doesn't give you the option to overwrite a recording you don't like or to even delete it. You can do retry and it won't save the recording. Here's a work around:
Use iFunBox to delete and transfer correct samples with correct names back into the app.
Add correct sound with name back into the program where you want to use the sound.
Saving and Renaming Programs
Programs are where you save sounds to pads in a collection of 64 pads in four banks of 16 pads each (ABCD).
Select program and sounds where you can drag sounds from the various folders in the list, record new sounds, or edit the sound that's already on the selected pad.
When you make a change to an existing program, an "*" will appear next to the program name. If you are creating or editing a program, you will have to save it or lose it before exiting iMPC Pro.
Any time you save a program that already exists, you will have to give it a new name. You can delete programs you don't want. Be careful about how you do this and it might be good to experiment to be sure of how the app will respond to the changes before putting a lot of effort into creating your own programs (read below for an example).
Tabletop
The iMPC Pro inside Tabletop will NOT have any of your custom samples or programs due to the way Apple has sandboxed iOS apps so they can't share files. This is supposed to change with iOS 8. It would be very nice if there was a utility provided by the app developers to allow us to export and import sounds, programs, sequences, and projects between Tabletop version of iMPC Pro, regular iMPC Pro as well as the app on our other iOS devices or people we'd like to share them with.
I copied some of my sounds into the Tabletop version of iMPC Pro, assigned them to two programs, noticed that I needed to make changes to the programs. I wanted to have the programs with the changes to have their original name. During the process of saving the programs with a different name, deleting the original, and saving a copy with the original and deleting the copy with the name I didn't want, the Tabletop version of iMPC Pro LOST all of my user programs. I had to recreate the programs by dragging the sounds onto the pads again. I believe this happened when I deleted the first program but I'm not too sure so experiment before you invest time into your projects.
Tabletop MIDI Learn
Works as advertised for iMPC.
iMPC Pro it will frequently crash just trying to assign the pads. Once you do get all of the pads assigned with midi learn, and save the session it promptly forgets the midi learn (i.e. useless).
Comments
@Paulinko hi Paulinko what do you use for audio interface ? Me i use behringer is202 istudio on a ipad 2 and its not functionnal but i have to this manipulations.
So i test some scenarios for using is202 istudio of behringer.
I use ipad2 and ios7.
1) first test
A)i kill all process in ram of ipad for maximum ram for Samples.
B)I turn on the is202 and launch impc pro.
C)When i touch play, speakers of ipad is on but not the main output or headphones of is202.
D)I have to power off the is202 and power on for just enable the output and headphones of is202 and it works sometimes.
E)with this manipulations (C&D), sampling with line/mic of is202 don't work but only the mic of the ipad2.
2)second test
A)i kill all process in ipad ram.
B)i turn on the is202.
C)i launch impc first.
D)i launch impc pro.
E)now i have any problem for listening with output and headphones of is202 and recording is ok with mic/line input of is202 with cd,vynil,tape,smartphone...
F)but if i kill the process of impc, we have the same problems of first test at case C).Main output and headphones disabled for is202 and recording with mic/line of is202 not working only ipad hardware is functionnal.
But its all mono than impc who CAN Record in stereo.
Not being able to monitor the sound for me is still an issue for me. I'm using a Yahmaha Audiogram 6. I find using another app to record my samples and then importing them in where I fine tune the portion of the sample I want to hear from the pad in iMPC Pro seems like a better work flow for me. AudioShare is very good at normalizing the samples too. By importing the samples back in with iFunBox, I can also place the samples into folders that make sense to me rather than having them all crammed into one folder.
***** These are post from mpc-forums: *****
This app is a buggy mess.
No multi export
No renaming tracks for mixer
If used in tabletop user programs from standalone are not accessible and must be remade
Midi mapping crashing tabletop
Custom slicing moves when saved song is reloaded
Animations on fx not playing
Crashes all over the place
RAM leak
And Oh so many more..
Are the guys from Retronyms musicians no no wait wait I mean "Creative Musicians"
Ok first off ,Why does this App only do 32 measures???? :hmmm: Yep if nobody hasn't gotten that far um here to tell it THIRTY TWO MEASURES ONLY!dudes and dudet you guys really need to change that.
Second the gimmicks need to be gone and replaced
By tools to help with better workflow wait wait what's that a new word a new phrase..BETTER WORK FLOW!,nothing less (we already had that......iMPC)
Look JP,Retronyms you guys had us all at "hello,there's new hope!"But as far as changing the iPad DAW game this app just ain't it,in fact um with everyone else on this one "Beat maker 2,an older much older app is still number one for that category.OK look
All this app needs IMHO is five things and it would be thee "it" number one........
1.Track Explosion or (Track procreation or Track Spread)
Why:Ok picture you doing whatever it is you do and inspiration hits you,you grab your ipad (the closest quickest thing next to you)and start banging the beat 4 measure loops start turning into 8 measure loops and so on and you keep adding and adding sounds and parts next thing you realize you got your beat down,but everything is on one track (DAMN!)but hold on Retronyms in there infinite wisdom has added a one button fix for this
You hit that button and Bang!,just like that every sound,every pad is instantly tracked out to it's own individual track,why,why,WHY can't we have that?
2.Track naming
Why?:to know exactly what sound or part is sitting under them 64 faders
3.Bring the overdub button back
Why?:Better workflow IMHO
4.TableTop integration
Why?:Because you said it would work,that's why!
5.MIDI
Why?:That's all I'm saying................
Retronyms ,JP,please give this a read or some thought we all want this app to succeed
Mainly because we are all tired of getting disappointed and frustrated because we're forced to use something we can't,but because we spent the money and the hope we try to use it anyway,peace....
The only thing those fellas know is marketing, same with Nukai. The target market should be anyone who values quality and not any old spotty youth who thinks its 'amazeballs' to have 16 pads shown on a piece of glass. :roll:
I like the idea of splitting my sounds from 1 track across multiple tracks as an option
@Buska Spreading/splitting one track into many is a superb idea. I hope someone from Retronyms is checking in on this thread,,,
I'm now getting underlying bass notes on almost all pads on all programs, wtf?
Just to give credit where due, that post was just 3 posts that I ripped from Mpc-forums (hence the disclaimer at the start of the post). Mpc-forums threads have good ideas and the guys there are all regular hardware Mpc users. Retronyms and Akai really should have sought beta testers from that community, we would have a very different app now
@Ripper said:
That's a new one
Fanning to tracks +10. Though I think I'd rather just have separate outs or sub tracks available for a program. Most could stay on the main out but then I could send arbitrary pads to their own outputs as needed instead of dealing with a bloated mixer.
But yeah, I reckon akai isn't in the business of selling me an all-i-ever-wanted MPC for $12. Fair enough.
If I source my sample from my iPod into headphone/line in I get nothing, do I have to use preamp?
Can I record sample through USB / camera connection kit
Apart from being "beta testers", I feel like I need a thread like this just to be a "Manual" for the app. Dozens of minutes of pre-release demo videos and I still feel like I lack basic understanding of what a Program is for, etc. As @Paulinko said above, I'm using Programs to save "kits" - 64 total pads, though usually I only have 16 so it's all on one screen (and if it's a rock drum kit, I don't need more). But then there are "Sequences" tied to those patterns (I think), and a "sequence" is what other drum apps would call a "pattern". And all of that, I believe, is within something called a "template", and I don't really know what that means.
I'm noticing some of these problems, but the reason I'm not tempted to yell "RETRONYMS!!!" angrily at the sky is I just have lower expectations for what this app should do. To me, it's a beat box. It's a tool for creating drum loops or extended patterns, and then getting them out of the app and into a DAW like Auria, Cubasis, or whatever. I don't have experience with real-life MPC's, but whereas I could see the appeal of it for live music, trying to turn this convoluted structure into something resembling a DAW sounds like a freaking nightmare to me. It just isn't designed cleanly enough with that in mind.
But it can make things go "boom", "clap", and "snap", and do so in varying time signatures with grid sequencing, velocity and pitch controls (per step), and a good suite of effects. If it just did THAT, if it didn't have the AKAI/MPC branding, and called itself a "drum machine", I think people would generally like the app, and at $13 (intro), it blows DM-1 out of the water.
Critical issues for me that need to be addressed:
Lack of AudioBus. Yes, AB is a paid app whereas IAA and ACP are not, but throwing a paid product out there with this much development and marketing power behind it and then thumbing your nose at how significant portions of iOS musicians do their workflow is just wrong.
Sample slicing and saving is either broken or poorly explained.
AudioCopy loops include "trails" beyond the length of the loop, and don't offer an option to turn that off. This actually gets me really angry. Retronyms posted here and suggested it was something they may address in the fall, or perhaps in 2015. You have to be kidding me. See this $1.99 sequencer app from a much smaller developer below? They included a checkbox as an option for whether you wanted your loop to extend beyond its timed length to allow a cymbal to die out or whatever. It was broken at launch, but they updated it within a few weeks to make it work. You're telling me THEY have the resources and energy to make AudioCopy/Paste work, but you don't?
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/steps-a-sequencer/id877295618?mt=8
You need to have a cable in that has a mic input like an iRig where you would plug the output from the iPod or CD player and plug it in to iRig type hardware and plug the output into the iPad and it will show up as microphone input. These devices have three metal bands for stereo out left/right and a mono input signal. If you want a digital and/or stereo input you'd need to use some sort of USB audio interface via a camera connection and there are a few mics that connect directly to the 32 pin connector or lightening connector.
This app has so much potential, but there are still some showstopper fails. The latest one for me is that changing the number of slices will RESET all of the slices that you may have created/drawn manually. SO. FRUSTRATING.
@StormJH1 said:
Agreed.
I don't mean to offend anyone from Retronyms because I know the amount of hard work it goes in an app like this but Man... I will repeat this until i have blisters on my fingers :
STOP THE FREAKING HYPE AND INVEST THAT TIME IN BUG TESTING. Seriously. You don't have a 0.89€ app and 1 developer. That was understandable. Maybe.
Hats off for Matt, the developer from Nanostudio. That's the proper way to launch an app. Test the shit out of it.
Oh and JP please don't take cues from MPC Desktop. Don't even get me started on that one. I've returned the REN in the first week and rebought a Maschine.
I watched the hype for iMPC Pro grow since the first video Retronyms released, and the inevitable disappointment when the release came. I know a lot of people were hoping Retronyms and Akai had learned something from the general disappointment with the first iMPC app, but nothing in the videos gave any indication that was the case.
Does iMPC Pro have a slick interface? Sure. But it does nothing that BeatMaker 2 doesn't already do, and BeatMaker 2 does far more than iMPC Pro. BM2 has its own issues, but at least it works as it should.
BeatMaker 3 is being developed right now. Intua's already eating Retronyms'/Akai's lunch. When BM3 comes out, Intua will be eating their breakfast and dinner, too.
^ I hope that BM3 fixes a lot of the issues I have with BM2, because it would be nice to support a developer that seems to get it. I would love to use BM2, but as it is, I can't deal with the file management, a good chunk of the workflow/interface, and not being able to use IAA effects.
@alexbuga said:
You know what? They really shouldn't get offended, and if they do, I don't care. They released the product and either (1) knew its failings and therefore should expect negativity and frustration or (2) didn't know its failings and need to be told about them.
There are a lot of apps that are at least as sophisticated, if not more sophisticated, than iMPC Pro, and that don't have the Akai name or backing, that don't have similar failings.
Get it the fcuk together.
@JohnnyGoodyear said:
agreed. I think they were hoping the JP vids would serve as the docs. They don't and the in app help is weak.
@papertiger said:
That seems completely reasonable to me. When you set the number of slices... That's what it does!
thats not reasonable, the user has messed forever with a few slices, now he wants two more slices - oh yeah, let's flush down the toilet everything he did
without a warning
@Paulinko said:
Thanks Paulinko
@lala said:
Really? You can manually add more markers but if you set autoslicing numbers, I'm not sure what else it would do. Insert auto chops but if another existing chop is close to the auto point, skip it maybe? Seems like an awful lot of work.
Totally agree there should either be a warning or an undo, preferrably the latter.
This app is getting zero love from the developer and still no way to record line in even though it advertised it could. It takes up way to much room to keep until it is fixed. Bye, bye, impcamateur!
hope you went to their Facebook page and talked to them about it, all I ever see overthere is me doing the complaining
I sent them an email about iMPC Pro, as @mana suggested in the iProphet thread, and received a pretty generic response.
The response kindly explained to me the options for exporting sequences.
My original email had listed the available export options, why they were limiting, and how they should be improved.
Lol.
Which facebook page?
It's been in or near the top 10 music apps since launch. As long as kids are scooping it up to make hip-hop beats on their iPad, expect the status quo.
@Tritonman2 said:
https://www.facebook.com/retronyms
@telecharge said:
Yup. And it's not like it's unusable -- not by any stretch. It just lacks some of the best iOS music app integration features. . .
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