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AUM just WOW

I have always had AUM and yea I have heard the guys at the sound test room talk about it so there are tons of app that they say how great it is so I’m just used to hearing that from them so I really never messed with AUM.within the first 30 seconds I found how powerful this thing is. I have never seen any app his powerful it is….anyway on to my question…..

Can you record from the master in a DAW like NanoStudio?? Or Cubasis or auria??? If so how
Now also can you record each track from AUM into your. Preferred DAW???

If this can be done as far as m considered, then this is the most powerful app on the planet

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  • Yes, you just need to arm the Master track, and then hit the record button at the top, make your music. When you stop recording there will be a WAV file for the master. You can also create individual stems for different tracks or mix buses, which can be ported to another program for finishing, remixing etc if needed.

    It's worth also getting AudioShare by same dev, as they are a great partnership for music creation and file management.

  • wimwim
    edited July 2022

    The easiest answer is just record individual tracks or the master output to files, then import them to your preferred DAW (a bit trickier in NS2 than other DAWs as noted in other threads).

    There's a REC button at the bottom of each AUM track. Arming that, then pressing REC next to the play button will capture each armed track to a file in AudioShare. From there you just have to follow whatever procedure is needed per DAW to import audio files.

    TIP: Save the AUM session with a name first. This will name the clips much better and also organize them into a folder with the name of the session. TIP2: You can get "perfect" audio clips, that end on a bar boundary by using Sync Quantum. I won't go into the details here, but just so you know about that ability.

    DAWs that support IAA (NS2 does not) can also record AUM outputs directly into them but it can be complicated and also can introduce timing and other issues. It's far easier to record direct in AUM then import to DAWs, IMO.

  • Awesome thanks

  • @jdolecek49 said:
    I have always had AUM and yea I have heard the guys at the sound test room talk about it so there are tons of app that they say how great it is so I’m just used to hearing that from them so I really never messed with AUM.within the first 30 seconds I found how powerful this thing is. I have never seen any app his powerful it is….anyway on to my question…..

    Can you record from the master in a DAW like NanoStudio?? Or Cubasis or auria??? If so how
    Now also can you record each track from AUM into your. Preferred DAW???

    Yes, this is possible. You can record each AUM track into its own Cubasis track using IAA. Doug has a youtube video on how to set this up.

  • @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @jdolecek49 said:
    I have always had AUM and yea I have heard the guys at the sound test room talk about it so there are tons of app that they say how great it is so I’m just used to hearing that from them so I really never messed with AUM.within the first 30 seconds I found how powerful this thing is. I have never seen any app his powerful it is….anyway on to my question…..

    Can you record from the master in a DAW like NanoStudio?? Or Cubasis or auria??? If so how
    Now also can you record each track from AUM into your. Preferred DAW???

    Yes, this is possible. You can record each AUM track into its own Cubasis track using IAA. Doug has a youtube video on how to set this up.

    Yup or record each track, bus group, and the master individually inside AUM and each one will be saved in an AUM folder as well as audioshare automatically.

  • edited July 2022

    Oh…

    Did you know you can bus any channel to any other?

    Did you know that you can set Sync Quantum to automatically record perfect audio loops of pretty much any length inside AUM using the channel and main records?

    Did you know you can use an app called Art Kerns MIDILFOs https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/midilfos-midi-modulator/id998273841 to automagically tweak just about anything with an exposed cc value in the channel info slot at the bottom of each channel , including AUMs own faders and buttons? (Try the sine wave on the filter resonance of any synth app you have loaded in AUM for starters).

    Or one called LFOH! https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/lfoh/id1609270466 to also do the same to your live audio stream on any channel?

    Or one called Midigates https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/midigates-midi-probability/id1226296557 to introduce random probability to any midi sequence?

    Or one called Scaler (part of the invaluable Rozeta suite) https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/rozeta-sequencer-suite/id1292546479 to transpose any sequence?

    Use these two together, and the duplicate function inside AUM and you can split out a Bassline from a lead line in seconds. Then record any cool stuff, maybe created by the very cool ‘…bud’ set of sequencers - https://apps.apple.com/gb/app-bundle/bud-bundle-auv3-midi/id1541649738 - in an Atom 2 Midi clip: https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/atom-piano-roll-2/id1536259776 - so you can mess some more with transposition, probabilities and tempo.

    Did you know the fastest and easiest way to record a stereo mixdown from AUM is using an IAA output from your master channel straight into AudioShare’s record tab? (This lets you capture effect tails when you hit the AUM transport stop).

    So many (many, many…) cool things that AUM and the helper process apps you can run in it can do… such sights to show you ! :)

  • @Svetlovska said:
    Oh…

    Did you know you can bus any channel to any other?

    Did you know that you can set Sync Quantum to automatically record perfect audio loops of pretty much any length inside AUM using the channel and main records?

    Did you know you can use an app called Art Kerns MIDILFOs https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/midilfos-midi-modulator/id998273841 to automagically tweak just about anything with an exposed cc value in the channel info slot at the bottom of each channel , including AUMs own faders and buttons? (Try the sine wave on the filter resonance of any synth app you have loaded in AUM for starters).

    Or one called LFOH! https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/lfoh/id1609270466 to also do the same to your live audio stream on any channel?

    Or one called Midigates https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/midigates-midi-probability/id1226296557 to introduce random probability to any midi sequence?

    Or one called Scaler (part of the invaluable Rozeta suite) https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/rozeta-sequencer-suite/id1292546479 to transpose any sequence?

    Use these two together, and the duplicate function inside AUM and you can split out a Bassline from a lead line in seconds. Then record any cool stuff, maybe created by the very cool ‘…bud’ set of sequencers - https://apps.apple.com/gb/app-bundle/bud-bundle-auv3-midi/id1541649738 - in an Atom 2 Midi clip: https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/atom-piano-roll-2/id1536259776 - so you can mess some more with transposition, probabilities and tempo.

    Did you know the fastest and easiest way to record a stereo mixdown from AUM is using an IAA output from your master channel straight into AudioShare’s record tab? (This lets you capture effect tails when you hit the AUM transport stop).

    So many (many, many…) cool things that AUM and the helper process apps you can run in it can do… such sights to show you ! :)

    Blimey, a couple of really useful tips here, particularly the AudioShare one for capturing effects tails on transport stop. I think it’s on the road map for AUM to do this natively, but for now, that’s really handy to know.

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  • Record from AUM into Cubasis:

  • @Svetlovska said:

    Did you know you can use an app called Art Kerns MIDILFOs https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/midilfos-midi-modulator/id998273841 to automagically tweak just about anything with an exposed cc value in the channel info slot at the bottom of each channel , including AUMs own faders and buttons? (Try the sine wave on the filter resonance of any synth app you have loaded in AUM for starters).

    Or one called LFOH! https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/lfoh/id1609270466 to also do the same to your live audio stream on any channel?

    Hey @Svetlovska , I'm still really struggling to get my head around using LFOs in AUM. Can you point me to a simple tutorial on YT? Or, if you have a few minutes, could you explain step-by-step how to do it please? Would be eternally grateful :)

  • @Kashi said:

    @Svetlovska said:

    Did you know you can use an app called Art Kerns MIDILFOs https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/midilfos-midi-modulator/id998273841 to automagically tweak just about anything with an exposed cc value in the channel info slot at the bottom of each channel , including AUMs own faders and buttons? (Try the sine wave on the filter resonance of any synth app you have loaded in AUM for starters).

    Or one called LFOH! https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/lfoh/id1609270466 to also do the same to your live audio stream on any channel?

    Hey @Svetlovska , I'm still really struggling to get my head around using LFOs in AUM. Can you point me to a simple tutorial on YT? Or, if you have a few minutes, could you explain step-by-step how to do it please? Would be eternally grateful :)

    Route your LFO plugin to Midi Control. In midi control, find the parameters you want to control and set them to be controlled by the desired cc … and adjust the parameter range if desired.

  • edited July 2022

    Thanks @espiegel123 - if only it were that simple.
    Maybe I can create an example, and then someone could guide me through (step-by-step remember!) ? Let's say I want to use mLFO, to modify the attack rate in Phosphor. And a second LFO (also in mLFO), to modify the release rate.
    How would I do that?
    Imagine I'm an alien with zero understanding of music technology, and you have to explain every single thing you press.

  • @Kashi said:
    Thanks @espiegel123 - if only it were that simple.
    Maybe I can create an example, and then someone could guide me through (step-by-step remember!) ? Let's say I want to use mLFO, to modify the attack rate in Phosphor. And a second LFO (also in mLFO), to modify the release rate.
    How would I do that?
    Imagine I'm an alien with zero understanding of music technology, and you have to explain every single thing you press.

    Two ways to do it. My way is to click on the label at the bottom of Phosphor's AUM channel, click on the midi icon in the upper left of the resulting little window, then scroll down to find the parameter you want to modulate with the LFO. Set that parameter to receive whichever midi channel and CC number your LFO is sending.

    The other way is using the AUM midi matrix.

  • Thanks @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr . That's getting closer :) I can follow that until "set that parameter...." but in mLFO every one of the 16 lfos is sending on Chan 1 CC 1 (?) And when I select a parameter in Phosphor, select chan 1 , then nothing happens.
    Anyone else want to have a go?
    I'm an alien, remember...

  • @Kashi said:
    Thanks @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr . That's getting closer :) I can follow that until "set that parameter...." but in mLFO every one of the 16 lfos is sending on Chan 1 CC 1 (?) And when I select a parameter in Phosphor, select chan 1 , then nothing happens.
    Anyone else want to have a go?
    I'm an alien, remember...

    In mlfo, change the cc and/or channels so that they are unique.

  • edited July 2022

    Ok. And when I press "learn", I need to have that particular channel/cc running at that time correct?

  • @Kashi said:
    Thanks @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr . That's getting closer :) I can follow that until "set that parameter...." but in mLFO every one of the 16 lfos is sending on Chan 1 CC 1 (?) And when I select a parameter in Phosphor, select chan 1 , then nothing happens.
    Anyone else want to have a go?
    I'm an alien, remember...

    You have to set both midi channel and CC in AUM. I don't know mLFO or Phosphor. Also, when it comes to midi things don't always work.

    Maybe set Phosphor aside for now and try something easier as your first step. For example, you can modulate the channel volume in AUM. Or use one of AUM's built-in filters and modulate the cutoff.

  • @Kashi : I wouldn’t do this for just anyone, you know. Read the YouTube description for context. Er… enjoy?

  • @Kashi said:
    Ok. And when I press "learn", I need to have that particular channel/cc running at that time correct?

    When multiple cc’s are happening at once, don’t use midi learn. Enter the cc numbers and channel manually.

  • wimwim
    edited July 2022

    @Kashi said:
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    I'm an alien, remember...

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  • @Svetlovska !! Thank you so much. This is exactly what I wanted <3

    thanks @espiegel123

    and thank you @wim - this makes perfect sense. I'll forgive the grammatical errors.

  • @Svetlovska’s example is one way of doing things in AUM, which is what I call “node based connections” (the connections are all made out on the individual channel’s nodes), but, you can alternatively do everything from AUM’s main hamburger menu and the MIDI Matrix (both upper right in AUM).

  • @bygjohn said:

    @Svetlovska said:
    Oh…

    Did you know you can bus any channel to any other?

    Did you know that you can set Sync Quantum to automatically record perfect audio loops of pretty much any length inside AUM using the channel and main records?

    Did you know you can use an app called Art Kerns MIDILFOs https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/midilfos-midi-modulator/id998273841 to automagically tweak just about anything with an exposed cc value in the channel info slot at the bottom of each channel , including AUMs own faders and buttons? (Try the sine wave on the filter resonance of any synth app you have loaded in AUM for starters).

    Or one called LFOH! https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/lfoh/id1609270466 to also do the same to your live audio stream on any channel?

    Or one called Midigates https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/midigates-midi-probability/id1226296557 to introduce random probability to any midi sequence?

    Or one called Scaler (part of the invaluable Rozeta suite) https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/rozeta-sequencer-suite/id1292546479 to transpose any sequence?

    Use these two together, and the duplicate function inside AUM and you can split out a Bassline from a lead line in seconds. Then record any cool stuff, maybe created by the very cool ‘…bud’ set of sequencers - https://apps.apple.com/gb/app-bundle/bud-bundle-auv3-midi/id1541649738 - in an Atom 2 Midi clip: https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/atom-piano-roll-2/id1536259776 - so you can mess some more with transposition, probabilities and tempo.

    Did you know the fastest and easiest way to record a stereo mixdown from AUM is using an IAA output from your master channel straight into AudioShare’s record tab? (This lets you capture effect tails when you hit the AUM transport stop).

    So many (many, many…) cool things that AUM and the helper process apps you can run in it can do… such sights to show you ! :)

    Blimey, a couple of really useful tips here, particularly the AudioShare one for capturing effects tails on transport stop. I think it’s on the road map for AUM to do this natively, but for now, that’s really handy to know.

    I’m so confused by all this, not sure what all this means that you mentioned,,I’m a beginner

  • edited July 2022

    @jdolecek49 : I don’t often use a conventional multitrack Digital Audio Workstation app (‘DAW’) like Cubasis or Mutlitrack DAW to record my Cthonicist dark ambient stuff:

    https://soundcloud.com/irena-svetlovska?utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing

    Latest example here:

    Instead, as in the case above, I use the mixer app AUM https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/aum-audio-mixer/id1055636344 to host my synth and fx apps, usually driven by some combo of audio ‘tape loops’ recorded inside AUM itself, and MIDI generator apps, and then record the piece ‘live’ as a combination of the various automatic and generative tools I am using inside AUM, and me riding faders hitting Mutes and physically switching channel apps in and out.

    This piece also features an initial loop (the synth arp sound) which I made and then ‘screen capped’ from a ‘toy’ music app which otherwise had no connectivity, by using the iPad screen recording ability to capture a video of the toy app running, then stripped out the audio from the video using AudioStretch https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/audiostretch/id571863178, then top and tailed the wav in AudioShare https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/audioshare/id543859300. This wav was then imported into AUM as a ‘File Player’ loop, to form the basis of the piece.

    I’ll often, and iteratively, create audio recordings of bits of things as I go, using the record buttons on each AUM channel to capture the audio, then playing them back as loops with these built in File Player ‘tape recorders’, which let you record any channel strip you add inside AUM, then play that loop back at the same speed, faster or slower, starting later, or earlier, and so on. Slow a loop by exactly half drops it in pitch by an octave - speeding it up to twice raises it an octave. You can record one mono synth line, and turn it into as many pitch shifted copies as you want using the channel Duplicate function, and successive File Player recordings.

    Just remember, as the sainted Hainbach says: ‘half speed is the right speed!’ :)

    So I’ll set up an arbitrary number of AUM Audio channels, some times starting with just one, and adding more as I go along. I’ll take an audio loop/wav file I’ve already made, imported from AudioShare https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/audioshare/id543859300, which I also use to do basic audio editing. Then maybe use Scaler’s https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/scaler-2/id1603180235 built in pitch detection to derive accompanying chords from the initial audio loop, which I can then pipe to a synth app on another channel.

    Tip: The MIDI matrix view (the ‘cable’ icon, second from the right at the top) in AUM makes it simple to send or receive MIDI from or to any destination, just click at the intersection between sender (top line) and receiver (right hand side).

    Or maybe I’ll start by driving a synth app, like the brilliant free Monolit https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/bleass-monolit/id1589410030, from a ‘generative’ sequencer app, that is, one which auto generates its own patterns, like SnakeBud https://apps.apple.com/gb/app-bundle/bud-bundle-generative-midi-sequencer/id1619712953.

    I do this because a) I only ever make (dark) ambient stuff, and b) that’s because I’m not a proper musician, and couldn’t write an actual verse/chorus/middle eight ‘song’ to save my life. And c) I have a short attention span, and can’t be arsed to do the tedious lengthy business of exporting and arranging ‘stems’ (individual channel wav files) in a proper DAW like a proper musician would. Instant gratification, baby!

    I then use a combination of things, all running either inside the Audio or MIDI channels of AUM, like the Atom piano roll MIDI sequencer https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/atom-piano-roll-2/id1536259776 (I used it here to capture MIDI from Scaler on the initial audio loop, to create a MIDI loop to drive Steel Guitar Pro).

    I might Channel record to capture audio, and use apps like Filterstep, Gatelab, https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/filterstep/id1500042551and conventional FX apps like FAC Alteza reverb https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/fac-alteza/id1489369665 to mess with the audio and the MIDI, adding, deleting, duplicating channels as I go, duplicating whole channels inside AUM and switching up what apps are on that channel, maybe creating a loop that runs at half or double speed, and so on, tweaking, mixing, messing, until the whole track runs automatically on its own inside AUM.

    Then it’s time to record a final mix. You can do that inside AUM, by sending the output of every individual channel using the ‘Mix Bus’ option, to a single master, (on which I usually put FAC Bandit and Bark Filter https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/bark-filter/id1257672871 to add a bit of sparkle, and maybe another FAC Alteza too - you can never have too much reverb in dark ambient!) , and just record that.

    If you stop there, though, when you hit the stop button on the AUM transport, the recording will stop too, and you will lose the natural ‘fading away’ of your echoes and delay. That might be fine, because you can always just use the ‘Trim’ function inside AudioShare to open up your final stereo wav and impose a fade-out on it, but I often want to capture that natural decay once the track stops. To do that, the fastest, simplest way to do it is to hook the output from your master channel to AudioShare’s Record mode, as I did in this piece.

    Go into AudioShare, select the record page, and hit the + sign next to the mike icon. This brings up a whole list of all your audio apps.

    Scroll down to Kymatica, select AUM channel 1, and click on it. Switch on the audio monitor, and hit record. Leave it running, you can trim the silence later.

    Go back to AUM, and instead of having the final audio at the bottom of your master channel going out to your speakers or headphones or whatever, select IAA/AudioBus output. This will pipe your mix to AudioShare, which is already running. And because you turned monitoring on in AudioShare , you can hear it.

    Hit start in AUM, do whatever live manual fader and button riding you want to as it runs, and when you are ready, hit stop. Let your echoes die away naturally, then bop back to AudioShare and hit stop there too.

    The waveform that appears will have correctly recorded the dying away end of your piece - the effect tails.

    You can then use the Trim tools in AudioShare to top and tail any silence from your wav.

    Congratulations- you have just recorded your live performance :)

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  • edited July 2022

    @tja: you are probably right, and I’ve got it, but at the moment my workflow in AUM is transparent to me, I can move straight through it to making what I want. Loopy on the other hand is opaque to me.

    My fault, because I admit I’m lazy, the opposite of an RTFM person, instead looking for the quick win, and I haven’t put in the hard yards learning how to use Loopy. I also really, really can’t emphasis enough how much of a non musician I am. There is no way I could do what @jwmmakerofmusic did and knock out a quick but wholly credible EDM track just to prove a point.

    Besides, Loopy seems to require musicianly skills like, oh, I dunno, timing, which is also woefully absent from my skill set. (Ask the band I used to play drums for.) Frankly, AUM’s biggest miracle is to let me blag my way this far as is… If it wasn’t for the existence of Dark Ambient as a thing, scale locking generative apps, A2M, and latterly, Scaler 2, you wouldn’t be hearing much from me, and what you did hear would probably be full of screeching unintentional dissonance.

    So I’m not sure what extra I would gain from Loopy Pro, since my stuff intentionally does not require beat perfect synch of multiple elements, and that seems to be the only usp a multichannel looper has over all the other things - time and pitch stretch, channel automation (of a sort) and so on - that I can already do in AUM, without even really thinking about it.

    I know AUM now, at least as far as I need to (some of the MIDI stuff is still above my pay grade, and I don’t really get how to set up side chaining, so it’s lucky I don’t need it, not doing EDM), so it’ll take a lot for Loopy, or anything else, to improve on my flow there. Feel the same way about Drambo, incidentally, which I also have, and also never use. Old dog, new tricks etc…

  • edited July 2022

    @jdolecek49 said:
    I’m so confused by all this, not sure what all this means that you mentioned,,I’m a beginner

    You need to get up to speed by watching some of The Sound Test Room's YouTube videos on AUM:
    https://www.youtube.com/c/TheSoundTestRoom/search?query=AUM

    AUM is really worth learning.

  • @Svetlovska : loopy requires no timing skills at all. It can be easily set up to be timing free. The learning curve is not steep and if the setup doesn’t seem straightforward there are some good video tutorials.

    That being said, if the AUM workflow works for you. There is no reason not to continue using it.

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