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Downloading now, sounds interesting from the description, thanks!
Gonna give it a spin! I’ll see if I can break it
Is the dev reading here for feedback / Qs?
Running in AUM, sync mode only capable of 1/1 timing.
Where is the saturation control mentioned in the description? Why are there knobs for 4ths, 5ths, 6ths but only 1 for 7ths? Sounds great though! I would like to see a separate dry / wet knobs instead of just a volume knob so we could hear only the delay signal with no remnant of dry signal, if desired.
You might want to provide feedback to the dev via the test flight app.
Press, drag and release (as implemented in Ooda and AUFX:dub would be a good way to make live changes to delay and other settings, allowing you to jump from one value to another immediately without dragging through a lot of u wanted values before you arrive at your destination action value.
Have done, though TestFlight messages are notoriously unreliable
Have also invited the dev to join this forum - assuming he get a the test flight feedback lol
Sending everything to dev via email. It also reporting here so that others can see if duplicable.
Opening two instances in same fx chain in AUM, any change to one instance is mirrored on the other
Turns out the OP is the dev, so here is likely the perfect place to post btw ✌️
Thanks for sharing, excited to try it out. Cheers!
His YouTube channel might be a good way to reach him I think it is flo26…
I fixed the multiple instances bug just now - I'll upload a new build to TestFlight tonight. There's no 7th on the bottom because chords generally aren't formed that way. Even the 7th up is questionable with real polyphonic harmonies - lots of dissonance. It can be switched to an octave by tapping on it. The stripe in the middle is all buttons you can press. Ideally you would map these buttons to MIDI notes and shift the intervals at the appropriate time during a chord progression for like, you know, musical purposes. You can't just have a straight 4th or 5th for an entire chord progression. The sync timing works but you have to press the button under the knob. I could change it so the knob flips through them since it would be faster.
In Mono mode you can run pretty much any monophonic sound through it. Polyphonic mode is specifically setup for tracking guitar - polyphonic sounds without a proper attack phase like a guitar will produce unexpected results with longer delay times. So I'm pretty much marketing this as a guitar app. It works best placed before an amp but I tweaked the tracking so it can also work after an amp and other effects. Just place it before anything that diminishes the attack like a slow gear. It should really be a pedal but I don't have the resources to make those yet.
Thanks for the detailed reply. Where is the saturation control mentioned in the description? I don't think that was covered in the answer? Why are there knobs for 4ths, 5ths, 6ths but only 1 for 7ths?
Also do you agree that separate dry / wet knobs would be useful? What about the hold and release idea for direct changing of values? It means you could jump from, say, a half note to an 8th note without going through potentially unmusical values. IMHO many apps would really benefit from this functionality. Another alternative is a + button that doubles the value instantly and a - button that halves it.
Even if marketed as a guitar app, you will find that many non-guitarists here, which is the vast majority, will be interested in pitched delays, even (or perhaps particularly) ones with unexpected results. 😁
Thanks for clarifying on the stripe along the middle - I inagine very few users would find that function without being told of it, the strip does not look like something you can interact with. Maybe those could be turned into something more resembling buttons?
Same goes for the sync value
-Why are there knobs for 4ths, 5ths, 6ths but only 1 for 7ths?
Each interval has a low harmony and a high harmony. There's no low 7th because chords generally aren't formed that way. Even the high 7th is questionable with real polyphonic harmonies - lots of dissonance. So each interval has a bottom and a top except the 7th. What instrument do you typically play? Try making some chords with a 7th on the bottom. Now imagine chords with a 7th under each note - it doesn't really work. It might be cool when switched to an octave but intervals that low start to sound real messy when pitch shifting whole chords.
The GUI improvements are a great idea. The wet / dry control is easy to implement but polyphonic pitch shifting always has a "sound" that isn't quite real. Plus it wouldn't be a harmony without the original signal blended in
. The tape style saturation is in the feedback loop to prevent clipping if you slam the input or turn the feedback up all the way. I'm just trying to insulate inexperienced users from creating a bunch of noise and then getting confused when crap comes out of the speakers. This is how most guitar pedals and studio effects are made - there is a range of values the parameters are limited to because they don't sound good outside of these values. I know the iPad has a way different scene but we still need to think about people who have a musical instrument plugged into the thing (like myself) and expect music to come back out.
Yes, I know what you mean - it’s hard to get something that satisfies all users. Again, many people here might like to use this with synths and or various monophonic sounds etc, and may have no interest in something sounding ‘real’. They might often generate notes with generative midi and use something like this to add variations to the melody etc. Then again, as you say, some others might just be guitarists and have different expectations.
The instrument I play best is guitar, though I don’t do any guitar’ related stuff with my iPad, and yes, I haven’t really thought about it before but I guess you’re right that 7ths might sound weird played below the root.
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Downloaded, hopefully get a chance to play with it this weekend. Thanks for the heads-up!
@dreamless I sent Flo the link but he's not on iOS 15 so he can't try it. Sorry!
The build is for iOS 14.1 and up, must be a TestFlight thing.
He said he's on 13.4.1
So, fairly inexperienced bassist here… what might be nice is a panic button, to reset the effect back to silence rather than wait for the effect tail to die out or dial down the feedback every time I screw up (which is a lot). Very musical app though. A few steps undo/redo would be most helpful, too. Not sure how difficult any of this might be to implement, as I’m not any sort of app coder
Or, instead of undo/redo, perhaps preset buttons “a, b, c” or similar
mess about with bass + soft drummer... rainbow delay + rhino on bass, beef on drums... that's it. ear to ear grins all round, lol I can't play guitar for shit
What happened here - this plugin sounded like it could be really interesting, but the dev has deleted his account?
Really strange...
Hadn’t @dreamless been around for ages? Developing other apps previously?
Not showing in Testflight either....
I think Dreamless is the developer of Jam Synth and Beat Machine as well?
I hope everything is OK
Very odd - had added me to beta and talked about a giveaway etc