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great video about GAS and urge of buying new gear

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  • @Tarekith said:
    In his last video he seemed like he was having a bit of a mental breakdown. Maybe he needs to buy more synths not less….

    The PPG one? That’s his latest, that I can see. See, this is why I avoid putting my face on YouTube. People psychoanalyzing your voice is already a step too far, never mind adding facial expressions into the equation. I just skipped through that vid, but saw nothing suggesting mental breakdown lol. Anyway, thanks for confirming my resistance to putting the whole 2d me on the ’’interweb” 😅

    From the parts I watched, yeah. He seems a bit stressed. On the verge of a breakdown? Didn’t see that.

  • Sorry, I meant this one, didn't see he had a more recent one about PPG:

  • @dendy said:

    @ervin said:
    Ironically, this "anti-consumerist" video fits perfectly into the wave of YouTube videos where influencers and other content creators renounce their earthly possessions, sell all their gear, get back to their roots, go acoustic etc.

    Don't think this is case of Jeremy (Red Means Recording) .. i'm following his for pretty long time and he is one of few youtubers who are always honest ... he is really good guy, very fair. There is lot of truth on what he is saying there and i'm pretty sure it's his true honest opinion - yeah, he needs create content because obviously creating content is his main source of income .. but his content is honest. I simply believe him there is not cold calculation like "i make this one to get more views, even throught fuck it it's not my honest opinion".. that's just not him.

    Oh I'm not saying he's not honest about it. I'm just saying all the others have got to this exact same point, too. And they all made videos about it as well. For all I know, they may all be genuine. My comment was more about how this seems to be a pattern with these guys who get all the gear they want and then some. Some kind of saturation, I guess.

  • abfabf
    edited January 2023

    The man has a LOT of music and photography gear. Watching that video was like being schooled on the benefits of sobriety by a drunk in a pub.

    There are millions of musicians in the world and very very few live in his world of buying and buying.

  • @abf said:
    The man has a LOT of music and photography gear. Watching that video was like being schooled on the benefits of sobriety by a drunk in a pub.

    do you realize he is youtuber who does jams and gear reviews - youtube is literally his JOB .. also lot of gear he reviews is send to him by companies who create that gear ..

  • @dendy said:
    do you realize he is youtuber who does jams and gear reviews - youtube is literally his JOB .. also lot of gear he reviews is send to him by companies who create that gear ..

    Yep.

  • An alcoholic is well positioned to talk about the benefits of sobriety. The fact that they haven't managed to sober up but regret that they turned into an addict arguably makes a more compelling case as to why the listener should avoid going down that road in the first place.

  • @Gavinski said:
    An alcoholic is well positioned to talk about the benefits of sobriety. The fact that they haven't managed to sober up but regret that they turned into an addict arguably makes a more compelling case as to why the listener should avoid going down that road in the first place.

    That's a good point.
    But I find the video annoying. Maybe if it wasn't titled PLEASE STOP I would hate it less. I don't have g.a.s. but I don't judge what anybody else enjoys. Public slimming due to overgeared shame seems like a new fad.

  • @abf said:

    @Gavinski said:
    An alcoholic is well positioned to talk about the benefits of sobriety. The fact that they haven't managed to sober up but regret that they turned into an addict arguably makes a more compelling case as to why the listener should avoid going down that road in the first place.

    That's a good point.
    But I find the video annoying. Maybe if it wasn't titled PLEASE STOP I would hate it less. I don't have g.a.s. but I don't judge what anybody else enjoys. Public slimming due to overgeared shame seems like a new fad.

    Yeah I know what you mean... if I had a dollar for every annoying YT video title I've seen I'd have enough cash to buy all the music hardware and software ever known to humanity 😂

  • @abf said:

    @Gavinski said:
    An alcoholic is well positioned to talk about the benefits of sobriety. The fact that they haven't managed to sober up but regret that they turned into an addict arguably makes a more compelling case as to why the listener should avoid going down that road in the first place.

    That's a good point.
    But I find the video annoying. Maybe if it wasn't titled PLEASE STOP I would hate it less. I don't have g.a.s. but I don't judge what anybody else enjoys. Public slimming due to overgeared shame seems like a new fad.

    I too found the video annoying but I hate this kind of commentary stuff.

    More gear!

  • edited January 2023

    I agree about the capitalist and environmental concerns voiced above but I just wanted to say thank you to all the gassy people for their purchases and keeping the prices down for me partly due to mass production..
    🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

  • @Gavinski said:
    An alcoholic is well positioned to talk about the benefits of sobriety. The fact that they haven't managed to sober up but regret that they turned into an addict arguably makes a more compelling case as to why the listener should avoid going down that road in the first place.

    This is insightful. The person who has been on a certain journey of suffering can have wisdom about it. I found the video compelling. Seeing his PPG video after this one really hammered home how alienating it can be to work as part of a system that leads to behavior with which you feel conflicted. We all have to be part of systems like this, to one extent or another.

  • @NoncompliantBryant said:

    @Gavinski said:
    An alcoholic is well positioned to talk about the benefits of sobriety. The fact that they haven't managed to sober up but regret that they turned into an addict arguably makes a more compelling case as to why the listener should avoid going down that road in the first place.

    This is insightful. The person who has been on a certain journey of suffering can have wisdom about it. I found the video compelling. Seeing his PPG video after this one really hammered home how alienating it can be to work as part of a system that leads to behavior with which you feel conflicted. We all have to be part of systems like this, to one extent or another.

    Yeah, quite frankly I’m also a bit conflicted when I fairly regularly get YouTube comments like ‘I’ll have to stop watching your channel because every time I watch one of your videos I want to buy the app.’ You could say, ‘Well, that’s the individual’s responsibility, if they are buying too many apps they have to learn to control that.

    This is related, although going off on a tangent: I find it interesting that Buddhism has been co-opted by arch-neoliberals like the Koch brothers (well, one is dead now) as a philosophy of self-dependence where we aim to seek to be happy independent of society. Hence they got that ‘happiest person in the world’ monk to speak at Davos.

    Well, if you look at early monastic Buddhism, the route to happiness was much more nuanced than some idea of self-sufficiency and self-responsibility. Self-responsibility is hard, which is why rules of conduct, monasteries etc were created for monks to limit the needs to make personal choices and to insulate them from temptations. Secondly, monks were quite literally dependent on the people around them to feed them etc. This is a deep topic and I could go on about it at length, but if you Google “McMindfulness” there is a treasure trove of resources out there for anyone who wants to explore this more deeply, as well as an interesting chapter on it in Glenn Wallis’s book on Western Buddhism.

  • edited January 2023

    People should take responsibility for their own decisions and not blame reviewers .. reviewer takes some piece of gear, makes review, talks about his subjective opinions, personal feelings, experiences, talks about features, what gear does, what it doesn't .. They just provide information, they do not force nobody to buy anything. IS reviewer holding gun and threatining you "buy this hw or i shoot you" ? NO.

    IF watcher buys then that HW, it's just his own personal decision and should take full responsibility for that decision.

    end of story.

  • edited January 2023

    @ervin - looks like you was right. This is starting to be new trend, youtubers suggesting users to not buy stuff :lol: :lol:

  • I've promised myself that I would not buy any more VST/IOS stuff this year.

    Caved when I came across Pure Acid iOS. It's my last one doc. I promise.

  • @dendy said:
    @ervin - looks like you was right. This is starting to be new trend, youtubers suggesting users to not buy stuff :lol: :lol:

    Right? 😁

    It's not even new tbh. Midlife synthesist, Multiplier, and many other music YouTubers with a large following have all had their Walk to Canossa.

    I suspect (but I don't know, of course) that it's partly a fad, yes but also their way of coping with the situation their chosen career forces them into: they realise they have, in effect, become marketing tools for music gear makers which is probably not what they had in mind when they started up, etc.

    Or maybe it's something else entirely.

  • @dendy said:
    People should take responsibility for their own decisions and not blame reviewers .. reviewer takes some piece of gear, makes review, talks about his subjective opinions, personal feelings, experiences, talks about features, what gear does, what it doesn't .. They just provide information, they do not force nobody to buy anything. IS reviewer holding gun and threatining you "buy this hw or i shoot you" ? NO.

    IF watcher buys then that HW, it's just his own personal decision and should take full responsibility for that decision.

    end of story.

    Really? End of story? Don't you think it might be a bit less black & white than your reductivist take on it? Like, maybe people are consuming (whether it's gear, booze, food, clothes, online content) because they're trying to fill a hole in their lives? Because they're staring into the infinite void, completely ungrounded, completely desperate to find some meaning in the Universe. Because they are compulsively reaching out and attaching meaning to epiphenomenal, fleeting "stuff" that has no grounding in ultimate reality/? Because they are RELENTLESSLY bombarded with cynical marketing campaigns, on every screen, every bus stop, every wall, every available space there's advertising, telling people "buy this and all your existential confusion will evaporate immediately and you will find inner peace and enlightenment", only to find that upon buying the product/experience the void remains.

    Saying people should just stop buying stuff, and suggesting that they're not swept up in cyclical habits of compulsion/addiction/habit is pretty unrealistic.

  • +1. We are not as free to choose as we think. If you think otherwise, you're actually likely more vulnerable to manipulation. Like Andrew Tate fans - they think they've escaped the matrix but have actually just gone deeper into delusion, lmao 😂

    @Kashi said:

    @dendy said:
    People should take responsibility for their own decisions and not blame reviewers .. reviewer takes some piece of gear, makes review, talks about his subjective opinions, personal feelings, experiences, talks about features, what gear does, what it doesn't .. They just provide information, they do not force nobody to buy anything. IS reviewer holding gun and threatining you "buy this hw or i shoot you" ? NO.

    IF watcher buys then that HW, it's just his own personal decision and should take full responsibility for that decision.

    end of story.

    Really? End of story? Don't you think it might be a bit less black & white than your reductivist take on it? Like, maybe people are consuming (whether it's gear, booze, food, clothes, online content) because they're trying to fill a hole in their lives? Because they're staring into the infinite void, completely ungrounded, completely desperate to find some meaning in the Universe. Because they are compulsively reaching out and attaching meaning to epiphenomenal, fleeting "stuff" that has no grounding in ultimate reality/? Because they are RELENTLESSLY bombarded with cynical marketing campaigns, on every screen, every bus stop, every wall, every available space there's advertising, telling people "buy this and all your existential confusion will evaporate immediately and you will find inner peace and enlightenment", only to find that upon buying the product/experience the void remains.

    Saying people should just stop buying stuff, and suggesting that they're not swept up in cyclical habits of compulsion/addiction/habit is pretty unrealistic.

  • edited January 2023

    @ervin
    hey realise they have, in effect, become marketing tools for music gear makers which is probably not what they had in mind when they started up

    yes, i believe this is it ..

    Multiplier

    This is good example .. in his video where he sold everything .. first reason he started with was that best stuff he ever made was ITB (computer only) .. yes, then it makes sense for him.. i would say best tracks i ever made (at least those i personally like most, and that's most vimportant for me) were those i made with HW grooveboxes and played/recorded live :) With those it was really like "i am actually doing music, not programming music" :)

  • edited January 2023

    This is another very good video on topic. This guy went through actually pretty similar path than me. He is not hw reviewer, his main content is actual (pretty good) music jams ...

  • @Gavinski said:
    +1. We are not as free to choose as we think. If you think otherwise, you're actually likely more vulnerable to manipulation. Like Andrew Tate fans - they think they've escaped the matrix but have actually just gone deeper into delusion, lmao 😂

    @Kashi said:

    @dendy said:
    People should take responsibility for their own decisions and not blame reviewers .. reviewer takes some piece of gear, makes review, talks about his subjective opinions, personal feelings, experiences, talks about features, what gear does, what it doesn't .. They just provide information, they do not force nobody to buy anything. IS reviewer holding gun and threatining you "buy this hw or i shoot you" ? NO.

    IF watcher buys then that HW, it's just his own personal decision and should take full responsibility for that decision.

    end of story.

    Really? End of story? Don't you think it might be a bit less black & white than your reductivist take on it? Like, maybe people are consuming (whether it's gear, booze, food, clothes, online content) because they're trying to fill a hole in their lives? Because they're staring into the infinite void, completely ungrounded, completely desperate to find some meaning in the Universe. Because they are compulsively reaching out and attaching meaning to epiphenomenal, fleeting "stuff" that has no grounding in ultimate reality/? Because they are RELENTLESSLY bombarded with cynical marketing campaigns, on every screen, every bus stop, every wall, every available space there's advertising, telling people "buy this and all your existential confusion will evaporate immediately and you will find inner peace and enlightenment", only to find that upon buying the product/experience the void remains.

    Saying people should just stop buying stuff, and suggesting that they're not swept up in cyclical habits of compulsion/addiction/habit is pretty unrealistic.

    You are both making valid points, but at the end of the day you seem to be taking an issue with something @dendy didn't say (unless I missed it).

    His point is people should take responsibility for their decisions. I think that stands, and is not negated or refuted by saying people are not perfectly free to choose (which they aren't but I don't see dendy claiming that, either).

    In other words, you have to give agency to people, even if you appreciate they don't have perfect freedom to act. And with agency comes responsibility, I don't see a way around it.

    Ps. Yes, I have purchased iOS apps based purely on peer pressure and hype here on the forum. Some of them turned out to be awful. My fault. 🤷😀

  • @ervin said:

    @Gavinski said:
    +1. We are not as free to choose as we think. If you think otherwise, you're actually likely more vulnerable to manipulation. Like Andrew Tate fans - they think they've escaped the matrix but have actually just gone deeper into delusion, lmao 😂

    @Kashi said:

    @dendy said:
    People should take responsibility for their own decisions and not blame reviewers .. reviewer takes some piece of gear, makes review, talks about his subjective opinions, personal feelings, experiences, talks about features, what gear does, what it doesn't .. They just provide information, they do not force nobody to buy anything. IS reviewer holding gun and threatining you "buy this hw or i shoot you" ? NO.

    IF watcher buys then that HW, it's just his own personal decision and should take full responsibility for that decision.

    end of story.

    Really? End of story? Don't you think it might be a bit less black & white than your reductivist take on it? Like, maybe people are consuming (whether it's gear, booze, food, clothes, online content) because they're trying to fill a hole in their lives? Because they're staring into the infinite void, completely ungrounded, completely desperate to find some meaning in the Universe. Because they are compulsively reaching out and attaching meaning to epiphenomenal, fleeting "stuff" that has no grounding in ultimate reality/? Because they are RELENTLESSLY bombarded with cynical marketing campaigns, on every screen, every bus stop, every wall, every available space there's advertising, telling people "buy this and all your existential confusion will evaporate immediately and you will find inner peace and enlightenment", only to find that upon buying the product/experience the void remains.

    Saying people should just stop buying stuff, and suggesting that they're not swept up in cyclical habits of compulsion/addiction/habit is pretty unrealistic.

    You are both making valid points, but at the end of the day you seem to be taking an issue with something @dendy didn't say (unless I missed it).

    His point is people should take responsibility for their decisions. I think that stands, and is not negated or refuted by saying people are not perfectly free to choose (which they aren't but I don't see dendy claiming that, either).

    In other words, you have to give agency to people, even if you appreciate they don't have perfect freedom to act. And with agency comes responsibility, I don't see a way around it.

    Ps. Yes, I have purchased iOS apps based purely on peer pressure and hype here on the forum. Some of them turned out to be awful. My fault. 🤷😀

    I do take issue, not with Dendy himself but with one of his points, that reviewers 'just provide information'. This is not true in the majority of cases. They are often basically doing a marketing job whether aware of it or not, and it's in their own interests to make their videos as enticing as possible. As Red says, he rarely if ever reviews apps he doesn't like, so basically once he has decided to make his video, he'll want to make the gear sound as good as possible. Marketing and temptations to buy stuff we don't need are insidious and hard to resist, no doubt about it, so let's not underlay their strength and influence.

  • edited January 2023

    @Gavinski said:

    @NoncompliantBryant said:

    @Gavinski said:
    An alcoholic is well positioned to talk about the benefits of sobriety. The fact that they haven't managed to sober up but regret that they turned into an addict arguably makes a more compelling case as to why the listener should avoid going down that road in the first place.

    This is insightful. The person who has been on a certain journey of suffering can have wisdom about it. I found the video compelling. Seeing his PPG video after this one really hammered home how alienating it can be to work as part of a system that leads to behavior with which you feel conflicted. We all have to be part of systems like this, to one extent or another.

    Yeah, quite frankly I’m also a bit conflicted when I fairly regularly get YouTube comments like ‘I’ll have to stop watching your channel because every time I watch one of your videos I want to buy the app.’ You could say, ‘Well, that’s the individual’s responsibility, if they are buying too many apps they have to learn to control that.

    This is related, although going off on a tangent: I find it interesting that Buddhism has been co-opted by arch-neoliberals like the Koch brothers (well, one is dead now) as a philosophy of self-dependence where we aim to seek to be happy independent of society. Hence they got that ‘happiest person in the world’ monk to speak at Davos.

    Well, if you look at early monastic Buddhism, the route to happiness was much more nuanced than some idea of self-sufficiency and self-responsibility. Self-responsibility is hard, which is why rules of conduct, monasteries etc were created for monks to limit the needs to make personal choices and to insulate them from temptations. Secondly, monks were quite literally dependent on the people around them to feed them etc. This is a deep topic and I could go on about it at length, but if you Google “McMindfulness” there is a treasure trove of resources out there for anyone who wants to explore this more deeply, as well as an interesting chapter on it in Glenn Wallis’s book on Western Buddhism.

    Interesting to see Buddhism in the context of independence and neoliberalism mentioned here. The problem that I see (being a Buddhist myself), is that there is often a misunderstanding of the meaning of “happiness” and “independence”. One of the core teachings of Buddhism is the interdependence of all things. We ourselves, all living beings, every atom exists in relation and connection to others. For a Buddhist independence is an illusion. I think, what is often called “independence” in a Buddhist context, is what Buddhism calls liberation: Stepping out of the emotional reactivity that makes us react with aversion, desire or ignorance towards what we meet in the world. That reactivity that through our own actions is often the seed cause for more aversion, desire and ignorance. So being happy does not mean being ignorant of the problems in the world. There can be a happy monk at Davos, but that does not mean that the monk endorses global capitalism. And happiness does not exclude compassion for others. In the contrary, a happy paramedic or surgeon can very likely offer much more help than a person bogged down by pain and depression about the situation.

  • @Gavinski said:

    @ervin said:

    @Gavinski said:
    +1. We are not as free to choose as we think. If you think otherwise, you're actually likely more vulnerable to manipulation. Like Andrew Tate fans - they think they've escaped the matrix but have actually just gone deeper into delusion, lmao 😂

    @Kashi said:

    @dendy said:
    People should take responsibility for their own decisions and not blame reviewers .. reviewer takes some piece of gear, makes review, talks about his subjective opinions, personal feelings, experiences, talks about features, what gear does, what it doesn't .. They just provide information, they do not force nobody to buy anything. IS reviewer holding gun and threatining you "buy this hw or i shoot you" ? NO.

    IF watcher buys then that HW, it's just his own personal decision and should take full responsibility for that decision.

    end of story.

    Really? End of story? Don't you think it might be a bit less black & white than your reductivist take on it? Like, maybe people are consuming (whether it's gear, booze, food, clothes, online content) because they're trying to fill a hole in their lives? Because they're staring into the infinite void, completely ungrounded, completely desperate to find some meaning in the Universe. Because they are compulsively reaching out and attaching meaning to epiphenomenal, fleeting "stuff" that has no grounding in ultimate reality/? Because they are RELENTLESSLY bombarded with cynical marketing campaigns, on every screen, every bus stop, every wall, every available space there's advertising, telling people "buy this and all your existential confusion will evaporate immediately and you will find inner peace and enlightenment", only to find that upon buying the product/experience the void remains.

    Saying people should just stop buying stuff, and suggesting that they're not swept up in cyclical habits of compulsion/addiction/habit is pretty unrealistic.

    You are both making valid points, but at the end of the day you seem to be taking an issue with something @dendy didn't say (unless I missed it).

    His point is people should take responsibility for their decisions. I think that stands, and is not negated or refuted by saying people are not perfectly free to choose (which they aren't but I don't see dendy claiming that, either).

    In other words, you have to give agency to people, even if you appreciate they don't have perfect freedom to act. And with agency comes responsibility, I don't see a way around it.

    Ps. Yes, I have purchased iOS apps based purely on peer pressure and hype here on the forum. Some of them turned out to be awful. My fault. 🤷😀

    I do take issue, not with Dendy himself but with one of his points, that reviewers 'just provide information'. This is not true in the majority of cases. They are often basically doing a marketing job whether aware of it or not, and it's in their own interests to make their videos as enticing as possible. As Red says, he rarely if ever reviews apps he doesn't like, so basically once he has decided to make his video, he'll want to make the gear sound as good as possible. Marketing and temptations to buy stuff we don't need are insidious and hard to resist, no doubt about it, so let's not underlay their strength and influence.

    I'm not underplaying their influence. It does exist.

    HOWEVER, you and pretty much all of us in this forum know this going into the exchange. You will make your decisions being aware of this effect and being aware that you don't consciously perceive all of it.

    And even if you should not know that, you are still responsible for your decisions. You can make all the excuses afterwards, and some of them will probably be valid, at the end of the day you still made that decision and you have to take responsibility for it. Do we agree on this last part?

  • @catherder said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @NoncompliantBryant said:

    @Gavinski said:
    An alcoholic is well positioned to talk about the benefits of sobriety. The fact that they haven't managed to sober up but regret that they turned into an addict arguably makes a more compelling case as to why the listener should avoid going down that road in the first place.

    This is insightful. The person who has been on a certain journey of suffering can have wisdom about it. I found the video compelling. Seeing his PPG video after this one really hammered home how alienating it can be to work as part of a system that leads to behavior with which you feel conflicted. We all have to be part of systems like this, to one extent or another.

    Yeah, quite frankly I’m also a bit conflicted when I fairly regularly get YouTube comments like ‘I’ll have to stop watching your channel because every time I watch one of your videos I want to buy the app.’ You could say, ‘Well, that’s the individual’s responsibility, if they are buying too many apps they have to learn to control that.

    This is related, although going off on a tangent: I find it interesting that Buddhism has been co-opted by arch-neoliberals like the Koch brothers (well, one is dead now) as a philosophy of self-dependence where we aim to seek to be happy independent of society. Hence they got that ‘happiest person in the world’ monk to speak at Davos.

    Well, if you look at early monastic Buddhism, the route to happiness was much more nuanced than some idea of self-sufficiency and self-responsibility. Self-responsibility is hard, which is why rules of conduct, monasteries etc were created for monks to limit the needs to make personal choices and to insulate them from temptations. Secondly, monks were quite literally dependent on the people around them to feed them etc. This is a deep topic and I could go on about it at length, but if you Google “McMindfulness” there is a treasure trove of resources out there for anyone who wants to explore this more deeply, as well as an interesting chapter on it in Glenn Wallis’s book on Western Buddhism.

    Interesting to see Buddhism in the context of independence and neoliberalism mentioned here. The problem that I see (being a Buddhist myself), is that there is often a misunderstanding of the meaning of “happiness” and “independence”. One of the core teachings of Buddhism is the interdependence of all things. We ourselves, all living beings, every atom exists in relation and connection to others. For a Buddhist independence is an illusion. I think, what is often called “independence” in a Buddhist context, is what Buddhism calls liberation: Stepping out of the emotional reactivity that makes us react with aversion, desire or ignorance towards what we meet in the world. That reactivity that through our own actions is often the seed cause for more aversion, desire and ignorance. So being happy does not mean being ignorant of the problems in the world. There can be a happy monk at Davos, but that does not mean that the monk endorses global capitalism. And happiness does not exclude compassion for others. In the contrary, a happy paramedic or surgeon can very likely offer much more help than a person bogged down by pain and depression about the situation.

    True. On the topic of what interdependence means in the pop cultural understanding of Buddhism, it is interesting that a lot of our modern ideas of Buddhism have been filtered through the lens of romanticism. Romanticism embraced interdependence. For early Buddhists at least (to the extent that we can even speak accurately about what was a highly diverse tradition that was only codified many centuries after the Buddha's death - if he even existed as the historical person portrayed in the texts) , as you say, liberation was seen to be a breaking free of the ties that bind. Always important to remember though that the goal and the path are different. You can't throw the raft away too soon etc haha. I'm not a Buddhist btw, but have done a lot of meditation and read deeply on the topic. There is a lot of interesting stuff on this and other meaty questions in David McMahan's Making of Modern Buddhism book.

  • @ervin said:
    >
    HOWEVER, you and pretty much all of us in this forum know this going into the exchange. You will make your decisions being aware of this effect and being aware that you don't consciously perceive all of it.

    And even if you should not know that, you are still responsible for your decisions. You can make all the excuses afterwards, and some of them will probably be valid, at the end of the day you still made that decision and you have to take responsibility for it. Do we agree on this last part?

    Well said. All of these people doing reviews and talking about gear ask for likes, comments, and subscribes so you know they doing this to try and make money. Nothing wrong with that, but it makes it pretty easy to know what their motivation is and make your choices accordingly. If people don’t have the will power to not buy something they really don’t need, that’s on them and not who’s making the video.

  • @Gavinski said:

    @catherder said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @NoncompliantBryant said:

    @Gavinski said:
    An alcoholic is well positioned to talk about the benefits of sobriety. The fact that they haven't managed to sober up but regret that they turned into an addict arguably makes a more compelling case as to why the listener should avoid going down that road in the first place.

    This is insightful. The person who has been on a certain journey of suffering can have wisdom about it. I found the video compelling. Seeing his PPG video after this one really hammered home how alienating it can be to work as part of a system that leads to behavior with which you feel conflicted. We all have to be part of systems like this, to one extent or another.

    Yeah, quite frankly I’m also a bit conflicted when I fairly regularly get YouTube comments like ‘I’ll have to stop watching your channel because every time I watch one of your videos I want to buy the app.’ You could say, ‘Well, that’s the individual’s responsibility, if they are buying too many apps they have to learn to control that.

    This is related, although going off on a tangent: I find it interesting that Buddhism has been co-opted by arch-neoliberals like the Koch brothers (well, one is dead now) as a philosophy of self-dependence where we aim to seek to be happy independent of society. Hence they got that ‘happiest person in the world’ monk to speak at Davos.

    Well, if you look at early monastic Buddhism, the route to happiness was much more nuanced than some idea of self-sufficiency and self-responsibility. Self-responsibility is hard, which is why rules of conduct, monasteries etc were created for monks to limit the needs to make personal choices and to insulate them from temptations. Secondly, monks were quite literally dependent on the people around them to feed them etc. This is a deep topic and I could go on about it at length, but if you Google “McMindfulness” there is a treasure trove of resources out there for anyone who wants to explore this more deeply, as well as an interesting chapter on it in Glenn Wallis’s book on Western Buddhism.

    Interesting to see Buddhism in the context of independence and neoliberalism mentioned here. The problem that I see (being a Buddhist myself), is that there is often a misunderstanding of the meaning of “happiness” and “independence”. One of the core teachings of Buddhism is the interdependence of all things. We ourselves, all living beings, every atom exists in relation and connection to others. For a Buddhist independence is an illusion. I think, what is often called “independence” in a Buddhist context, is what Buddhism calls liberation: Stepping out of the emotional reactivity that makes us react with aversion, desire or ignorance towards what we meet in the world. That reactivity that through our own actions is often the seed cause for more aversion, desire and ignorance. So being happy does not mean being ignorant of the problems in the world. There can be a happy monk at Davos, but that does not mean that the monk endorses global capitalism. And happiness does not exclude compassion for others. In the contrary, a happy paramedic or surgeon can very likely offer much more help than a person bogged down by pain and depression about the situation.

    True. On the topic of what interdependence means in the pop cultural understanding of Buddhism, it is interesting that a lot of our modern ideas of Buddhism have been filtered through the lens of romanticism. Romanticism embraced interdependence. For early Buddhists at least (to the extent that we can even speak accurately about what was a highly diverse tradition that was only codified many centuries after the Buddha's death - if he even existed as the historical person portrayed in the texts) , as you say, liberation was seen to be a breaking free of the ties that bind. Always important to remember though that the goal and the path are different. You can't throw the raft away too soon etc haha. I'm not a Buddhist btw, but have done a lot of meditation and read deeply on the topic. There is a lot of interesting stuff on this and other meaty questions in David McMahan's Making of Modern Buddhism book.

    Thanks for mentioning that book. That looks interesting.

  • Questions in my mind:

    • Are audio apps and virtual instruments and plugin to be considered gear?
    • Is constantly downloading new cracked apps to be considered GAS?
    • Is GAS to be connected with spending money?
  • @recycle said:
    Questions in my mind:

    • Are audio apps and virtual instruments and plugin to be considered gear?
    • Is constantly downloading new cracked apps to be considered GAS?
    • Is GAS to be connected with spending money?

    For me
    1. Yes (though it is called App Acquisition Syndrome, AAS), they are essentially the same. Apps have the disadvantage of having no resale value whereas with eurorack etc you can buy second hand and resell for the same or a similar price)
    2. Yes, it's the same addictive tendency with potential negative consequences for creativity
    3. No. See point 2

    Just my 2 cents

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